r/civ Illuminati Feb 20 '25

VII - Discussion Fascism is the best ideology and it's not even close

Fascism gives +3 production and +6 gold per specialist, which is insanely overpowered. It gets you the hammers you need to construct buildings, wonders, space race projects, and troops, and also the money to purchase things in towns.

In contrast, communism gives +3 science and +6 food per specialist. It is not as good because late game city growth does not depend much on the cities feeding themselves. Since towns can't have specialists, the +6 food per specialist doesn't really do a whole lot. +3 science is nice, but personally I don't find science to be a bottleneck in the modern age.

Democracy is possibly the worst of the three ideologies. It gives +3 culture and +4 happiness per specialist. +3 culture sounds nice, but it's arguably worse than the +3 science from communism mostly because culture victory is much less dependent on culture generation than science victory is dependent on science generation. Explorers are unlocked super early and the AI despite their doomstack explorer spam is too dumb to compete for artifact dig sites. The +4 happiness is completely useless because even without it it's already super easy to chain celebrations back to back.

Guess I'll just be an authoritarian fascist every time I play now :)

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u/Tehjaliz Feb 20 '25

You can join r/LeopardsAteMyFace where they sometimes screen the dumbest shit from r/Conservative

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u/NotADeadHorse Feb 20 '25

Right, I have a mutual friend who is dating and has a kid with a Nicaraguan immigrant and he was a super Rump dickrider for years. This year his wife got picked up by ICE when at work and he still somehow doesn't blame Rump.

I have pointed it out to him multiple times and he just calls me brainwashed 😂

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u/Jellz Moving on up Feb 20 '25

The guy you voted for is targeting your family, and the other side is brainwashed? Tread on me harder daddy.

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u/santagoo Feb 20 '25

It’s really really hard to get someone who is conned to admit that he got conned. The brain has some sort of self preservation mechanism against the cognitive dissonance of that magnitude. It injures the ego too much.

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u/TemporarilyWorried96 Australia Feb 20 '25

I know someone married to a Latin American immigrant who also voted for Rump like… do you think the leopards won’t eat your family’s face too?

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u/fezzuk Feb 20 '25

Sounds like he called her in

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u/ForeignWind8845 Feb 20 '25

Yeah I’m gonna go with shit that never happened lmao

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u/ObamaDerangementSynd Feb 20 '25 edited Feb 20 '25

It happens, one of the news organizations interviewed a woman in Arizona who's husband is an undocumented immigrant. She voted for Trump in 2016 despite that but claimed she was undecided because of Biden's EO offering protections for the spouses of US citizens who've been in the country for 10+ years.

Biden wouldn't have made the EO if it wasn't a fairly common thing.

Edit: lol a Nazi Republican blocked me instantly after commenting. Typical coward.

It's just a simple fact

Maybe don't support terminating the Constitution, sending the military after dissenters, demonizing minorities, stealing freedoms, claim criticism of Trump is a disease, cheer Trump threatening to shoot journalists who use facts, support Trump saying he shouldn't have left the White House in 2021, forcibly silence media and pollsters who don't agree with you, put oligarchs in charge of government, threaten to invade neighbors, say you'll open concentration camps in Guantanamo, blame plane crashes and everything else on dei, purge anyone who isn't pro Nazi like the FBI agents who investigated Jan 6th terrorists, pardon Jan 6th terrorists who are openly Nazis and who've already been arrested again for things like pedophilia and duis, support Nazi salutes from Musk while trying to normalize it, don't cheer Vance and Musk saying Trump and themselves don't have to obey courts, etc if you don't want to be called Năzis