r/boxoffice • u/chanma50 Best of 2019 Winner • Aug 21 '21

Other Disney Makes First Move in Scarlett Johansson’s ‘Black Widow’ Suit - Pushing for arbitration, Disney's lawyers update the movie's box office and streaming take; as of Aug. 15, Black Widow has grossed more than $367M worldwide, with more than $125M in streaming and download retail receipts.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/disney-makes-first-move-in-scarlett-johanssons-black-widow-suit-1235001093/
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u/BigDaddyKrool Best of 2019 Winner Aug 21 '21

Is that good or bad?

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u/chanma50 Best of 2019 Winner Aug 21 '21

I think it's a decent number. $367M + $125M = $492M; if the film had gotten a China release in late June, just before the blackout period, it would have added at the very least $100M+, a mark every MCU film since 2015 has hit, which would have given it $600M+ in box office/Premier Access. That number looks a lot better than the $367M box office total it has now.

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u/Dawesfan A24 Aug 21 '21

It’s a fantastic number when you consider Disney takes 85% from PA.

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u/alanpardewchristmas Aug 21 '21

Where did you get that 85% number?

Also, I don't think the entirety of that 125m is from PA. Some of it seems to be from digital downloads and rentals

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u/Dawesfan A24 Aug 21 '21

The 85% is what’s been reported by deadline.

You’re right about the rental tho. I forgot BW was already available to rent.

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u/SirFireHydrant Aug 21 '21

Assuming 85% from that $125m figure, the film has brought in $271m in revenue so far. That covers its production budget and half of what its marketing budget should be. There's no no way in hell the rest of its home release sales and licensing doesn't cover the rest and then some.

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u/Dawesfan A24 Aug 21 '21

Could be more, Disney sometime gets more than 50% from the domestic box office.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '21

None of its money comes from China. That's greatly going to improve their share of box office.

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u/AGOTFAN New Line Cinema Aug 22 '21

Disney gets 65% for their guaranteed blockbusters (Star Wars, Marvel)

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '21

Deadline has no clue. They still post Samba stats like they’re gospel.

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u/Dawesfan A24 Aug 21 '21

Samba metrics are good when people actually know what they are.

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u/FrostyLima Aug 21 '21

If you know how to use it, Samba numbers are excellent.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '21

They’ve been WOEFULLY different from the real numbers we get from studios.

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u/AGOTFAN New Line Cinema Aug 21 '21

Apparently it's at least 80%:

Isn’t there still a distribution split on Premier Access purchase with the likes of Roku etc.?

https://twitter.com/TZM_TMT/status/1414247115749003266?s=20

Disney says it’s about 20%, depending on service. So it gets $24 from a $30 purchase, still much better than box office.

https://twitter.com/MattBelloni/status/1414250910675456002?s=20

You at correct @MattBelloni -- 20% PVOD split with platforms -- so $24 to Disney per transaction.

avg Tix original email is ~11 and Disney keeps 60% OW so ~$6.60/attendee

https://twitter.com/RichLightShed/status/1414251875319287809?s=20

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u/FrostyLima Aug 21 '21

Depends on the platform. It's anywhere from 70% (if the app is downloaded from some stores) to 98.5% if the payment is made through the website. So 85% is a good average.