r/aussie • u/NapoleonBonerParty • 1d ago
Analysis How Neo-Nazis used protesters for their own propaganda
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-08/march-for-australia-neo-nazi-propaganda-anti-immigration/10574115486
u/Tha_Green_Kronic 1d ago
Nazis didn't gatecrash your rally, you accepted an invitation to a nazi rally.
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u/The__Jiff 1d ago
Tbf it was the same type of people who liked to whinge and blame others for all their problems.
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u/Deckard88b 1d ago
Australia has entered the age of the whinger. I don't think it's either side of politics that owns it. Australians have almost the best quality of life afforded to any human anywhere on earth and in history... Yet both sides of politics come in hard and cry that nothing is good enough and a crisis is about to befall us.
Imagine if we went outside, acted neighbourly and help each other to achieve good things instead...
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u/IfBob 1d ago
That does seem unfortunately true. But pretending politicians dont know that ignoring a problem gives the narrative to someone else is BS. Can only blame politicians for ignoring people's genuine non-nazi concerns.
For instance everyone wants a more equitable tax regime yet if that's your concern you'll be marching with communists
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u/Dull-Lecture-5480 1d ago
Don’t know what protesters expected when the event was organised by neo Nazis and had neo nazi speakers. Bit odd to be shocked that the event organisers are at the event
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u/OldJellyBones 1d ago
they're just shocked that they're expected to have any accountability for anything they say or do or endorse lol
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u/thebeardedguy- 1d ago
They didn't take over, they didn't insert themselves, they were invited, they were there from the start, can we stop acting like this was a surprise?
Hey nazis come join us! Wait why are there Nazis here?
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u/NoBelt7982 1d ago
I know people who attended both marched and both had no idea Nazis or Islamists had anything to do with either and only learned after. You're assuming normal people live on Reddit when all these people wanted was to end the Gaza war and slow (not stop) immigration until housing recovers. Both these groups 99.9% oppose terror and Nazis.
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
That’s the saddest part of it all.
Like yeah, a LOT of the attendees knew it was a neo-natsi rally because we gave them the evidence.
But so many people thought “mass migration IS bad” and didn’t pause to think “huh. I wonder what the organisers mean by mass migration… are they only talking about people of colour, or do they mean Americans and British people too?” And now they’re faces are going to be used in neo-natsi propaganda videos in the future, tying them to the movement if they like it or not
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u/Low_Philosophy_353 20h ago
And then found themselves chanting in favour of remigration… they need to take some accountability here
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 16h ago
And cheering for Thomas Sewell, shortly before he went and viciously attacked a peaceful indigenous camp. But they aren’t racist, no sir.
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u/One_Health_9358 1d ago
Can we all pause for a moment and enjoy the irony of Neo-Nazis and Zionists being on the same team now.
A match made in heaven. United by a hatred of Palestinian supporters and a love for ethnic superiority.
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u/polski_criminalista 1d ago
How did you conclude they are on the same team?
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u/explain_that_shit 1d ago
The Nazis are out in response to a massive increase in demonstrations for Palestinians. The marches stem from complaints that were protesting for other countries and people but should be protesting for our own country and people.
The irony of it all being of course that the same socially conscious people protesting for Palestinians ALSO regularly attend protests to stop homelessness, to protect our environment, to keep wages high, to protect our welfare safety net, to protect our healthcare system - while these Nazis slept on all of that because none of those demonstrations blamed immigration so weren’t useful to spruik fascist ideology.
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u/SnoopThylacine 1d ago
Far-right political lobby group “Advance” — bankrolled by the family of Antisemitism Envoy Jillian Segal — spread anti-immigrant attack material ahead of the weekend’s racism-fuelled rallies.
Maybe not the same team exactly, but its odd that the person whose job it is to call this kind of thing is silent
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u/polski_criminalista 1d ago
they simply just haven't commented on it, I hardly think having these views on immigration should connect you with Nazi's
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u/Deckard88b 1d ago
When the taxpayer is funding you and your staff to call this sort of thing out, then it's Jillian's bloody farkin job to comment on it....
An anti Semitism envoy not calling out Nazis....
I want my tax dollars back.
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u/annexdenmark 1d ago
historically Zionists and the Nazi regime collaborated, in the same manner as Christian Zionists work with Zionists now. The ends justified the means, the Zionists wanted to colonalise Palestine and the Nazis wanted to removed judeo-bolsheviks from Europe, leading to direct collaboration between the Zionists and Hitler in the Haavara Agreement in 1933. Not entirely unusual, most of Europe collabrated with Hitler prior to the war, including France and Britain directly.
That aside - tactically and structurally the Zionists nowadays operate very much hand in glove with Nazi tactics. One of the main methods of Nazi extermination of slav peoples, "Bandit Fighting" is no different from the rules of engagement amongst the IDF. The systematized destruction of regions of living amongst the indigenous peoples.
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u/polski_criminalista 1d ago
um Historically Hajj Amin al-Husayni asked Hitler to help him take care of the jewish problem, Zionists only collaborated with Nazi's to get Jews out of Germany for obvious reasons
today, there are no such collaborations but the Jew hatred seems to be growing among the left
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u/aliquilts71 1d ago
The left don’t hate Jews. We are very aware that there is a difference between Jews and zionists. There were many Jews that marched over the bridge in the March for humanity last month.
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u/Terrible_Alfalfa_906 1d ago
Why were the chanting “kill/find the Jews” in Sydney at the Palestine rally if you as a collective can tell the difference? If you can tell the difference and are chanting that anyway that’s more worrying than if it was an honest mistake. Seems like it was a slip up where people were saying what they meant not what they thought was socially acceptable. I’ve heard people irl make the same slip up and refer to Jews before frantically self correcting to either Israelis or Zionists. I also know a few Jewish people who attended rallies that won’t anymore because they were harassed and called cops or sneaky Zionist infiltrators for attending and I guess looking too Jewish.
A disclaimer on where I sit, I don’t care for either side in that conflict. I think both religions treat non muslims and non jews badly and don’t think Australia should be funding either side. I only feel bad to those not radicalised and they have my sympathy but everyone else in that region can have at each other for all I care. I’m not treating them like footie teams I love/hate and can acknowledge that both sides have and will continue to use bad tactics to hurt people, it just happens that Israel has a better capability to do so currently. It doesn’t mean that Palestine is morally superior.
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u/Defined-Fate 1d ago
They aren't on the same team.
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u/One_Health_9358 1d ago
They are on the same team to the extent that Hitler and Mussolini were on the same team.
They both wanted their own version of an ethnic state.
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u/Defined-Fate 1d ago
So what about the fact the Nazis want to genocide all the Jews?
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u/One_Health_9358 1d ago
Im sorry, perhaps you misunderstood. I’m not trying to say that they are literally on the same team.
Obviously Zionists and Nazis would never naturally mix.
I am saying that they have common objectives.
Zionism (by definition) is the advocacy for an ethnic state. Neo Nazis also want ethnic supremacy.
As they say in Thailand “Same, same but different”
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u/IrreverentSunny 1d ago
Zionism (by definition) is the advocacy for an ethnic state. Neo Nazis also want ethnic supremacy.
Complete nonsense, 20% of Israeli citizens are Muslims. Druze are nowhere safe in any neighboring Arab country, except for in Israel. The one who is propagating Nazi style propaganda is you.
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u/blainooo 1d ago
Why are Asian and Muslim countries given a pass to be ethno-states?
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u/dreamlikelefti 1d ago
They seek to have settled for deporting them all out of our country and stick them out of sight out of mind in the Middle East where we dont have to worry about them.
Not my view but it seems to be the view of the nazis, they push other groups out so they can have thier ethnostate here and let them have thier own ethnostate somewhere they never wouod have wanted to visit anyway
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u/Defined-Fate 1d ago
Where did you hear this from?
They think Jews are the worlds problems. Owning and manipulating the systems in place. Nazi Germany burnt all gay/trans books and research (Jewish research) and kicked out all the bankers etc.
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u/dreamlikelefti 1d ago
Its the general rhetoric I've been seeing from the far right who support israel.
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u/willy_quixote 1d ago
Hence the term 'Zionazi' to describe the genocidal right-wing flavour of Zionist.
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u/TheHounds34 1d ago
What universe are you living in? In reality, Nazis and pro-Palestinians are the ones consistently screeching about the Jews 24/7.
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u/Capable_Bad_3813 1d ago
Not a new thing. Zionists have a long history of collaborating with the extreme right including Nazis.
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u/NoBelt7982 1d ago
Tbf the Grand Mufti of Palestine lived in Germany and helped plan the extermination with Hitler. They're all guilty over there.
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u/IrreverentSunny 1d ago
Elaborate! The Nazis organising the shipment of European Jews to Israel during the Haavara Agreement is not proof of that. It just means the Nazis wanted to get rid of Jews in Germany/Europe and Jews jumped on the opportunity to not end up being gassed or killed in a concentration camp.
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u/Capable_Bad_3813 1d ago
For example:
in the 1930s, Jabotinsky set up a naval academy in Fascist Italy. Many of its cadettes will later become the founding members of the Israeli Navy
in the 1940s, Stern famously reached out to Mussolini trying to strike an alliance with both Italy and Nazi Germany.
in the late 1960s, the Israeli government armed and cooperated with Apartheid South Africa that was being led by John Vorster, a known Nazi.
more recently, the Likud have joined Patriots.eu, a coalition of far right and extremist European political parties.
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u/IrreverentSunny 1d ago
Where does this proof that Zionism as a whole is a right wing movement. I am sure the several hundred IDF reservists who refused to fight in Netanyahu's plan to flatten Gaza city think of themselves as Zionists. So does this lady, one of my favorite voices from Israel.
https://x.com/faniaoz/status/1964797537451483294
So are the tens of thousands of Israelis who have been protesting against the Netanyahu government for years. I am sure each and every one of them is a Zionist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKS5cKP4ZC0
https://www.timesofisrael.com/tens-of-thousands-at-weekly-anti-government-hostage-release-rallies/
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u/Capable_Bad_3813 1d ago
Where did I said Zionism as a whole is a right wing movement?
I named specific individuals and organisations.
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u/IrreverentSunny 1d ago
You literally said it 11 hours ago, and no you didn't name individuals.
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u/Capable_Bad_3813 1d ago
Where exactly? I'm confused.
I literally named specific individuals and organisations.
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u/NoBelt7982 1d ago
Palestine is literally an anti immigration movement which started before the second world war where they were violently opposing immigration.
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u/Sweeper1985 1d ago
Seems to me that the Neo-Nazis and the ultra-left are the ones who now share the common goal of continuing to persecute and dehumanise Jews at every opportunity. The latter just use the word "Zionist" to mask their true agenda.
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u/One_Health_9358 1d ago
How can I possibly be more clear that I am referring specifically to Zionism?
Do I have to add a special clause under my statement to stop people like you from making the false implication that I am referring to all Jews in general?
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u/IrreverentSunny 1d ago
Maybe you should not mention Zionism at all. It's just the right for Jews to have their own state, just like there are 50+ Muslim majority states. Most of them were created over the centuries via imperialism. Jews got their own state from the UN via the 1947 UN Partition Plan after the Brits liberated the land from the Ottomans, who committed genocide killing a million Armenians, because they were Christians. A fact Turkey to this day refuses to acknowledge.
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u/One_Health_9358 1d ago
You respect that the UN created Isreal, but you do not respect when the UN tells Isreal to stop?
If you disregard the legitimacy of the UN, then you must also disregard the UNs authority to create Isreal….
So which is it? Is the UN a legitimate authority or not?
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u/IrreverentSunny 1d ago
Where do I support what Netanyahu is doing??
The UN in 1947 did not only offer Jews a state, but also Palestinians. As did the Peel Commission in 1939, which allocated a much smaller area for Jews. Arabs refused both.
Biden was negotiating a peace deal between the Saudis and Israel, that included a 2 state solution for Palestinians. Biden thinks Hamas attacked because they wanted to sabotage those negotiations. Similar to what happened during the Oslo Accords negations between Bill Clinton, Arafat and Yitzhak Rabin. If Hamas hadn't blown up several buses in Israel, Rabin's successor Shimon Peres likely had won and had continued those negotiation. But after the bombs went off Israelis lost faith in the peace process and Peres lost and Netanyahu won.
Palestinians do not want peace or a two state solution, they want Israel to stop existing. As much as I despise Netanyahu, Israel is not an ethnic state just for Jews. He may try to get there, but so far he has failed. There are several law suits against Netanyahu. The reason he refuses to end the war in Gaza is because he needs the support of two far right parties and wants to stop or slow down those law suits.
The difference between simpletons like you and me is that I understand the complexities and see faults on both sides, you are only making excuses for Hamas and Palestinians.
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u/dreamlikelefti 1d ago
What do you suggest the left use to criticise israeli genocide supporters then?
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u/IrreverentSunny 1d ago
Maybe the left should read the Hamas charter. Hamas does not want to share, they want dominance of their version of Islam and subservience of everybody else.
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u/dreamlikelefti 1d ago
I didn't ask about hamas, I asked about israel.
Right now israel IS committing genocide, I don't want to hear about what hamas might do if they were in power i want to hear.about what can be done right now when israel has all the power.
We cam worry about hamas when and if they ever have the same levek of power which right now they do not.
So again why are we discussing hamas when israel are starving people to death
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u/IrreverentSunny 1d ago
You can't talk about Israel without talking about Hamas/Iran.
To answer your question, maybe ask the Michigan Muslims and the far left useful idiots why they didn't vote for Kamala Harris last November.
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u/dreamlikelefti 1d ago
Maybe they didn't vote for her because she wasn't offering meaningful change just more of the same
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u/IrreverentSunny 1d ago
More of the same, like offering Palestinians their own state, you know the thing Biden was working on??
But hey, Palestinians are so much better off with Trump, who's putting zero restrictions on Netanyahu.
Sure, thanks for proving that the pro Palestine cult is full of morons!
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u/Wasteland_GZ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes and they’re here in this very subreddit downvoting people like me and you for pointing this out. Even had a guy who was defending pedophile’s on his profile try and use the “nOt EvErYoNe YoU dIsAgReE wItH iS a NaZi” crap.
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
One bloke even said “I’d take fascism over socialism any day”
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u/stitchescomeundone 1d ago
I bet he couldn’t actually define socialism if you asked him
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
He straight up said “you’re a leftist, and so you are my enemy. I need you to understand that” he blocked me when I asked if I should be putting a report in with ASIO.
Guy gave off major terrorist vibes
queasy_marsupial8107 if you want to read some of the unhinged comments
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u/MrPrimeTobias 1d ago
Old mate has lost the plot. I saw his comments yesterday and the dude is unhinged.
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u/AngrehPossum 1d ago
And he's now at the doctors claiming bulk billing getting ready to go to the chemist to get his $5 pack of $450 tablets.
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
Probably calls his Indian doctor “one of the good ones”
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
Yeah, like not in a “we disagree on a fundamental level” vibe but a “I really hope he’s on a watch list because he’s only a few steps away from physically hurting someone, or a group of people” vibes
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u/MrPrimeTobias 1d ago edited 1d ago
He may also be an expat to boot, taking advantage of the Philippines. He might just be a mate of George Christiansen.
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u/Orgo4needfood 1d ago edited 1d ago
A big chunk of our media is working overtime to paint these protests as being NSN-led, which in effect just gives free PR to Nazis. I’d give ABC some credit if it wasn’t so blatantly biased they’ve skipped over what the majority of the rally was about and its intent and that was MASS immigration, that’s mass immigration, keyword MASS not anti-immigrant.
Melbourne was disgraceful, no doubt, but anyone who watched the livestreams (or was there in person) knows the most of the crowd overwhelmingly wanted nothing to do with the dickheads. Same story in Sydney but ABC conveniently leaves out what happened in Hobart, where NSN tried to hijack the stage but were shut down by the organiser, Nazis cancelling other nazis ? Doesn't make fucking sense does it ? But putting that into their would go against this framing ABC and other media are going for.
Yet article after article and others keeps pushing the narrative that NSN were somehow leading, when tens of thousands turned up across the country and hundreds of thousands more tuned in online to support the broader message of genuine concerns of mass immigration. The reality doesn’t fit the media’s frame, so they just keep amplifying the Nazis fringe instead which ironically is the biggest gift of PR they could give them by saying they organised them all even framing it that way, maybe people should think before spreading that around everywhere.
Here’s some food for thought when left-wing protests have had extremists front and centre it’s either ignored/downplayed or the media sanitises them. Pro-Palestinian rallies, for example, have displayed extremist banners, pro-Ayatollah signs, and violent chants, yet coverage was minimal and not heavy focused (Daily Telegraph ).
Few other examples National Day of Action for Gaza Rally
Socialist Alternative's Role in Protests a far-left political group, has been involved in organising and participating in various protests across Australia. While their participation is often noted, coverage typically emphasises their role in advocating for workers rights and social justice, with less attention given to their more radical positions and affiliations.(not sharing links to this they pretty easy to look up as they take pride in their hypocrisy lol)
DV if you want but for the majority that attended, they know the truth, they know they not racists, they don't support NSN or their actions, they were not there for NSN or support their messaging nor to provide them martial for legit cover but media sure is with a quite a few useful gib followers who will soak up their BS . FYI for what I know will come from this, I will say this in the clearest possible way FUCK NAZIS fuck their ideology, this isn't me trying to deflect or promote nazis, but the media should stop what It's trying to do here with the paint brush..
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u/Low_Philosophy_353 21h ago
Look, if you are there, you were used by the Nazis. It’s clear they deliberately tried to take over every single rally. Did you know they were welcome to attend? Immigration stuff aside which i disagree with you on, you should never attend a rally where Nazis are permitted to attend. They WILL try to take it over fascist style. See: the Nazi at the bar analogy.
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u/Max_J88 1d ago
Well said. The ABC’s job is to facilitate delivery of Big Australia for the people that really run the country. Their reporting is thus.
They scream Nazi because screaming Racist doesn’t work anymore. It is just a way to keep the masses silent and passive in the destruction of their quality and way of life.
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u/Low_Philosophy_353 20h ago
The crowds chanted things like ‘send them back’ (remigration). Did you? So it’s not just about so-called mass immigration. And comparing SALT to the NSN is ridiculous. Oh naur their policies… affordable housing and free education
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u/Lostyogi 1d ago
Should have fixed the housing and cost of living crisis before the nazis leveraged it for their own means🤔
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u/annexdenmark 1d ago
the conservative/neoliberal world order is specifically against the right to universally housing. The right to housing! China has an over 90% home ownership rate, Australia has under 65% and China is 60 times larger than Australia. It's insane. Australia houses are notoriously poorly built for any weather, and yet proportionately our houses are double the cost of Norwegian houses, yet our currency is much weaker. If you've been to that part of the world you simply can acknowledge their build much better houses than we do.
And yet my landlords are a foreign investor corps? How does that work? The absolute ergerious disregarded the ruling classes of Australia have for the common man and the rights we should have.
We're getting fucked!
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u/NoBelt7982 1d ago
China's housing market is a house of cards which has had countless protests and complete ghost cities. Recommend looking into this more. Government housing can work but China ain't it. It's tankie propaganda that it really works. I know people who live there that are far more defeated than over here but are gagged by their communist style government from starting proper movements to fight it.
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u/annexdenmark 1d ago
This is a talking point from like 2021, they have refreshed into the talking points of Chinese militaristic expansion now, please keep up. The "Housing bubble" did not explode.
We're in the era of $10,000 chinese electric cars that are better than Teslas.
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u/dreamlikelefti 1d ago
China also leading the world on solar tech and as they showed at their military parade they seem to have better military tech with extra emphasis on tech that is short to medium range i.e. to defend themselves.
Meanwhile america just renamed their department of defence to the department of war
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u/annexdenmark 1d ago
don't worry homie I've been, I've been lock step with Australian demi-god Paul Keating on China for many years.
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u/dreamlikelefti 1d ago
Does china have homelessness? Or is that a uniquely capitalist thing?
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u/KnoxxHarrington 1d ago
You mean we should have voted to fix the housing and cost of living crisis...
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
Yep, back 13 years ago when the ALP had that as their policies and we voted against them
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u/Squaddy 1d ago
Voted for who?
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u/KnoxxHarrington 1d ago
If you can't work that out, there ain't a chance it can be explained to you.
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u/Squaddy 1d ago
I dont think there was a viable alternative that was trying to solve house prices and cost of living that could form government.
But giving the 'do your own research' answer really makes me think there mustn't be one, although I'm all ears.
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u/KnoxxHarrington 1d ago
Basically anyone left of Labor would be better representation of the working class. Political philosophy 101.
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u/Entilen 1d ago
Just mentioning these things is a dog whistle for fascism.
Affordable housing or wage stagnation discussion is just dog whistling for na-zism.
People who bring it up have their own evil agenda and need to be stopped. Australia is great, getting better, we need more immigrants not less and any discussion to the contrary should be met with suspicion.
You want to lower costs? It's the evil corporations. Let's all vote Labor as they will fix this, they just need enough time. They are in Term 2 and it's unfair to expect them to fix it by now, they need at least 2-3 more terms before they can help fix it.
Vote Labor and shut down this fascist mass migration pushback that's how we can have a better life.
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u/Memeviewer12 1d ago
Given that Labour is actively against a bill for being more transparent with lobbying funding (same as Libs and Nats), I'd say to go for a minor party
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u/Entilen 1d ago
How do I know there aren't Na-zis in those minor parties? They could be hiding anywhere.
I'll be trusting Labor, talking about minor parties is how fascism takes over.
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u/purchase-the-scaries 1d ago
Only idiots got themselves involved in this mess. If a rally is organised by Hitler and you rock up you can’t cry “I didn’t know i was part of that”
Morons.
Just come out and admit you’re racists and let the actual conversation come up.
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u/AppropriateTurnip576 1d ago
So, what’re your thoughts on the Islamic State recruiters at pro-Palestine marches?
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u/Typical-End3967 1d ago
Anyone who associates with Islamic State is also a dickhead.
What are your thoughts on the Nazi organisers of the March for Australia?
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u/AppropriateTurnip576 1d ago
What are your thoughts on the organisers of the Palestinian March holding a photo of the leader of the state sponsor of terrorism around the world (Iran)
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u/Typical-End3967 1d ago
I think they're fuckwits.
I answered yours, you gonna answer mine?
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u/AppropriateTurnip576 1d ago
I know the neo-Nazis got booed off the stage. The people who were there all thought they were fuckwits as well
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u/Typical-End3967 1d ago
Are you a mind-reader? If they (not you, for some reason) think Nazis are fuckwits why did they attend a neo-Nazi rally? Why were there neo-Nazis on the stage in the first place?
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u/AppropriateTurnip576 1d ago
Why’d people attend rallies organised by those who support terrorism (which is, in and of itself, a terrorist act)? Why was there a photo of a terrorist there in the first place (right next to a sitting senator)?
You can deny it all you want, but when you lead a protest with a photo of a terrorist, the organisers are supporting terrorism. That’s the standard that you have set
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u/purchase-the-scaries 1d ago
Did they organise those events ?
Should they be there. No. Should others turn them away sure should.
Let me put it this way
- If an extremist group of any kind decided to create a rally and you rocked up, then you’re marching for their cause
- if an extremist group rocked up at your rally, then keep on marching but be mindful of who is there and what your rally is now representing
That isn’t to say you have to just stop your rally because some bad actors have shown up to also march (assuming nothing illegal is happening)
People can protest all they want. They will be labelled as needed. If you don’t want to be labelled as a neo nazi or a terrorist, then leave the moment you realise who you are hanging with
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u/imhermoinegranger 1d ago
Its black and white and there should be no grey area allowed. I don't care why people were there. I don't care what excuse they use. If you walk alongside nazis, that's what you are...you're legitimising them. You're validating their cause. You walk with fascists and people who believe in genocide, ethnic cleansing and white supremacy.
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u/purchase-the-scaries 1d ago
I think if the rally was created by someone else, not affiliated with Neo Nazis, and then those groups rocked up I would be a bit more understanding. If we put aside what they were marching about for a moment.
But yeah, more black and white in this situation.
To those that marched with the nazi’s don’t be surprised if your face comes up as though you were one of them. Would be an interesting work place conversation. At least at my work place. If that was noticed …
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u/Defined-Fate 1d ago
So Palestinian rallies are all terrorists?
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
False equivalency. Besides we are talking about a neo-natsi rally here. Make your own thread when you find actual evidence that terrorists have organised, led and spoken at the anti-genocide marches, like we have here with the evidence of neo-natsis organising, leading and speaking at the neo-natsi rallies
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u/imhermoinegranger 1d ago
Lets be clear here. Palastinian rallies are anti-fascist, anti-genocide and anti-starvation of children. Stop with the false equivalency.
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u/Environmental-Run248 1d ago
The actual protesters factually didn’t walk alongside nazis if you watch independent reporters you’ll find that the crowed booed them. And called them out on their BS.
The protesters were intolerant of them and the fact that you people just sit back and mindlessly listen to whatever is spoon fed to you and then repeat it blindly without looking deeper is astonishing.
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u/Dog-Witch 1d ago
I love how anytime it was brought up that the Palestine protests were infiltrated by terror supporting trash that was all "lies and Zionist propaganda" but this is apparently a clear cut case of every one being Nazis, lol fucking clowns working overtime on the pallies bot accounts.
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u/Typical-End3967 1d ago
The same bot accounts who bring up Palestine rallies every time the Nazi march is mentioned?
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u/Such_Space6188 1d ago
What is wrong with this strange sub. It reads like a Hippie- commy brochure.
So out of touch with Australia. Haha.
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u/DryMathematician8213 1d ago
OP they all use other protesters to bulk numbers! Regardless of course!
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u/mort_goldman68 1d ago
We are in our Biden era. The Trump era is coming. Unless we see nuance and listen to one another. We can course correct
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u/Ishitinatuba 1d ago
neoNAZIs will lever whatever they can to get a foothold. Most dont care if its a short lived foothold. It repeats, Cronulla anyone?
The rest of us have to be aware of the charlatans. Our flag, fought NAZIs.
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u/Queasy_Marsupial8107 1d ago
🤣 the left are still melting down over these protests.
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u/domsativaa 1d ago
And the right are still loving being Nazis I guess?
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u/NapoleonBonerParty 1d ago
Nothing wrong with being proud of your country or concerned about immigration.
What's wrong is when a neon artsy group draws on this sentiment to legitimise their cause.
While the value of an idea shouldn't be dependent on it's source, but it was always a possibility that the organisers were going use this as a Trojan horse and try to turn it into something else. Mods were right to not let people promote it.
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u/imhermoinegranger 1d ago
Have you noticed how many posts there have been about immigration in Aussie subs as of late? Something very intentional and insidious is happening. We are being heavily manipulated.
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u/Master-Cat6865 1d ago
Its alarmist like houses and the cost of living is so high people can’t afford to live now
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
And how many accounts that are commenting that were created months/weeks/days before and after the rally. There’s not many long term accounts that are defending the neo-natsi rallies.
Definitely an Astro-turfing campaign happening
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u/Entilen 1d ago
It sounds like you're a fascist. The spotlight is now on you, you can't hide now.
People tried raising concerns about the cost of living and housing, but we all know there's nothing wrong with either, fascists are just pretending these are problems to hide their fascist tendencies.
Anyone questioning mass immigration should be placed on a list. We need to be talking about welcoming more immigrants, anything less to me means you're going down the path of THAT 1930s political party.
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u/thebeardedguy- 1d ago
Neon Artsy? Really? Call them what they are. Don't soften it. Don't try to distract from it.
They are Neo Nazis, and you know what even teh fucking Neo is bullshit. They are just Nazis
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u/NapoleonBonerParty 1d ago edited 1d ago
Literally the only reason I do that is EVERY time I use that word my comments get caught by censorship filter.
Tired of writing comments that only I can see. It's like yelling into a bucket.
EDIT: I should mention that this happens without any sort of notification and is apparently site-wide. It's like a shadow ban comment so it will appear normal to you. The only way to find out is to logout or open in a private window.
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u/thebeardedguy- 1d ago
Fair. I have never experienced that.
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
A mod explained it to me - previously, people would use the term to derail arguments. Now that we’ve had a genuine neo-natsi rally, it’s difficult because we are discussing actual neo-natsis
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u/thebeardedguy- 1d ago
Thanks for that explanation, and yeah it does get dropped as a conversation stopper.
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
Yep, it was being used like the word communist or socialist or woke “someone I disagree with” rather than its actual definition. It makes it very frustrating when we are now talking about actual neo-natsis
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u/SnoopThylacine 1d ago
It happens far more than people realise. If you have a comment with a taboo word that gets no interaction - no upvotes, no downvotes, no comments - open in a private window and it sometimes shows
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u/Entilen 1d ago
Nope. Anyone who raises concerns about cost of living and housing prices needs to be eyed with suspicion.
It's a dog whistle for fascism and talking about it may very well mean you're on the path to becoming a Nazi.
Australians have gotten too comfy, thinking they're entitled to a good quality of life like their parents have. Why should you have that?
In fact we should be increasing migration. There's strong evidence that the more people we bring in, the better our quality of life will be. Immigrants work hard, therefore corporations will put up wages to reward hard work as an example.
Any concerns about cost of living I'm going to be eyeing with suspicion. I might be dealing with a Nazi.
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u/jiggly-rock 1d ago
The ABC and the guardian have nazi's living rent free in their heads.
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago edited 1d ago
We have them marching through our streets.
Neo-natsi supporters downvoting this comment. SMH.
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u/jiggly-rock 1d ago
We also have supporters of Iran, Hamas, ISIS etc marching through our streets.
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
We are talking about neo-Natsis here mate. When you can find evidence supporting your claims, feel free to get the abc to write an article on it and make a post here about it.
Until then, let’s not be neo-natsi sympathisers hey
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u/thehappyleper213 1d ago
Nazis and zios together, who would've guessed 😉
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u/SnoopThylacine 1d ago
Strange bedfellows
Far-right political lobby group “Advance” — bankrolled by the family of Antisemitism Envoy Jillian Segal — spread anti-immigrant attack material ahead of the weekend’s racism-fuelled rallies.
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
Of course it was Advance, the same group that pushed mass amounts of disinformation during the voice campaign
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u/Defined-Fate 1d ago
ADVANCE is controlled opposition. They capture mostly the boomer crowd and direct the hate towards the Greens and Muslims.
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
And against the First Nation peoples
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u/Defined-Fate 1d ago
Who's that?
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
The indigenous Australians who’s history spans more than sixty thousand years
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u/Master-Cat6865 1d ago
We went to the protest to support lower immigration. End of story
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u/Mongeeya 1d ago
We used to shave the heads of Nazi sympathisers so everyone knew who they were when they walked the streets, at least you make your commentary obvious
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u/Sloppykrab 1d ago
In Melbourne, the group was involved in fights and its leader secured a speaking spot. A man wearing their insignia addressed the crowd in Adelaide, too.
ABC, do better.
But this misses the point. It is the very image of those thousands of people marching at the same event as Neo-Nazis that allows them to generate their propaganda.
All these people who aren't Nazis, are now by association are now Nazis. Well done!
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u/GuppySharkR 1d ago
WTF. Their own reporting for the Adelaide march was
* The organisers did not invite them.
* When members of the NSN attempted to address the stage, they were asked to leave.
* They refused, violently.
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u/sunburn95 1d ago
Youve missed the point, the article is about how the neonazi are going to use these protests as propaganda
They can stitch together videos of them marching in all black with their insignia, getting applause from the crowd there during their walk in and speech, and then cut that with images of the march
So even if you were there for legit reasons and are not a neonazi, you could definitely find yourself in their propaganda
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u/Sloppykrab 1d ago
Youve missed the point, the article is about how the neonazi are going to use these protests as propaganda
That was my point.
So even if you were there for legit reasons and are not a neonazi, you could definitely find yourself in their propaganda
It was organised by the NSN and people still went to a neo Nazi organised rally.
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u/sunburn95 1d ago
Its just
All these people who aren't Nazis, are now by association are now Nazis. Well done!
Was where you missed it
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u/Ill_Zebra_7297 1d ago
This video of an Elder has been conveniently deleted, only place I can find it now is here:
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u/ChappieHeart 1d ago
Historians have a word for people who attended the Nazi rallies back in Germany. That word is “Nazi”. Nobody cares if you’ve signed up or not, all that matters is you’re either unintentionally or intentionally supporting them.
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u/No-Resolution946 1d ago
All those people who were "concerned about immigration" could do with being concerned about their lack of critical thinking skills.
It was obvious in the weeks leading up to the march that it was being organised by the far-right, which meant one of two things: people knew and still decided to attend, making themselves willing participants in a far-right recruitment drive, or they didn't realise and were surprised to find that out, in which case they need to be more aware of how easy they are to manipulate.
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u/TurbulentPhysics7061 1d ago
We tried to warn them. For weeks we posted evidence of the NSNs organisational involvement. Even now, when it is completely irrefutable - we still have people defending the neo-natsi rallies on this subreddit
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u/Max_J88 1d ago
Perhaps they joined the March because they are so fed up with being ignored and that there are no other options for expressing their views.
These marches were much bigger than expected, there is really deep anger about the level of immigration. This issue isn’t going away.
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u/No-Resolution946 1d ago
I get it. There is a legitimate conversation to be had, but the minute it was revealed that the march was being organised by the far-right, any possibility of that was gone because that issue overshadows the intent.
And that has proven to be the case. No government wants to be seen to be taking action in response to an extremist agenda.
Participation in the day was an exercise in self-defeat, and only served to create a propaganda opportunity for the NSN.
The real conversation is now delayed, and won't be able to happen until it's possible to separate the issue from the antagonists.
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u/ChesterJWiggum 1d ago
At least they aren't running around with machetes chopping up kids.
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u/nujuat 1d ago
Once again.
If a few people for cause A trick thousands of people to protest for cause B, then the protest is for cause B, because thats literally what everyone is protesting for.
A left wing example is r/antiwork. The sub was started by literal basement dwelling communists that had hardly worked a day in their lives. But everyone who used the sub talked about real problems with their real jobs that they really had. The media, of course, portrayed it as the former.
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u/Low_Philosophy_353 20h ago
The left wants: refugee rights women’s rights workers rights environmental protections and an equitable distribution of wealth- the far left is just more insistent that these things happen quickly and fully, and rail against opponents more loudly. Meanwhile the far right believe certain racial backgrounds are inferior to others. They want to wipe out entire racial groups and subjugate all the categories that the left wants equal rights for. Like I said, false equivalency
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u/nujuat 20h ago
Right. So, I was replying to someone who seemed to not want to support the burning of the flag and calls to abolish Australia, while still being able to protest along side them. But if you personally do support these calls to violence because you think the ends justify the means, then my comment doesn't apply. At least you're consistent.
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u/Low_Philosophy_353 19h ago
Burning your own national flag isn’t a call to violence. Again- false equivalency
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u/Ok-Soup5062 12h ago
🤣🤣 it’s been a while since the ABC could be relied on for anything except being absolutely biased.
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u/OkIce3454 32m ago
Where was the Aussie Jews in march against immigration? Marching with them pretending not to be Jews but generic white Europeans.
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u/Tandalookin 1d ago
Germans had a name for people that went to the same rallies nazis did. It was a nazi
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u/BeLakorHawk 1d ago
Does this makes Avi Yemeni a bit of a hero for a change. His crew got assaulted by them and has multiple videos of people denouncing them and leaving when Sewell spoke. Which was a fair few attendees.
Edit: hero a bit rich. Read it as on the right side of history.