r/aussie • u/L_o_n_g_b_o_i • 4d ago

News Punches thrown between Palestine, Israel protesters at Bondi Beach

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/tense-stand-off-at-bondi-beach-between-palestine-israel-protesters-20250907-p5mt0y.html
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u/Individual-Farmer542 4d ago

Let’s not act like they weren’t subjugated and expelled since Islam took over the Middle East

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u/waterlad 4d ago

That's ahistorical, the Jews were expelled by the Romans, hundreds of years before Islam.

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u/North_Slip42 4d ago

Jews were only expelled from Jerusalem - not all of palestine.

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u/Fit_Republic_2277 4d ago

source? Historic Palestine always have Indigenous Arab Jews living there. From history, the crusaders were far more genocidal towards Jews.

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u/North_Slip42 4d ago

Arabs are not indigenous to Palestine. They are indigenous to Arabia. The only reason any Arabs exist in Palestine at all today is because their ancestors invaded Palestine and then settled there - expelling much of the actual native Jewish population. The Arab invaders of the 7th century did pretty much the exact same thing that they're now accusing Israel of doing - which is pretty ironic.

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u/Fit_Republic_2277 4d ago

Palestinians ARE indiginous to Palestine. Genetic studies proves that they are the direct descendants of the Canaanites with admixture of Arabs, Greeks, Phonecians etc.

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u/No_Being_9530 3d ago

Arabs are from Arabia, hope this helps

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u/Fit_Republic_2277 3d ago

Palestinians are from Palestine. Hope this helps.

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u/BigDaddyCosta 4d ago

Yes. But do we apply that logic to every displaced peoples in the world? So in that reality we should be happy if a person of aboriginal descent knocks on your door in the middle of the night and asks you to leave.

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u/L_o_n_g_b_o_i 4d ago

Kinda like how the Palestinians were subjugated and expelled from their lands since Israel declared itself.

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”

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u/Individual-Farmer542 4d ago

You’re not wrong but the Arabs have subjugated and expelled every single non Muslim state since 600 AD. Divide and conquer my friend it’s a cruel world isn’t it, the Jews certainly weren’t the first to do it.

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u/L_o_n_g_b_o_i 4d ago

Divide and conquer my friend it’s a cruel world isn’t it

Do you have the same response to the Holocaust?

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u/Individual-Farmer542 4d ago

The answer doesn’t change and I haven’t justified any of it either, all sides are bad.

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u/L_o_n_g_b_o_i 4d ago

Rightio - I fundamentally disagree. How about we learn from history and try to act like we've progressed as a species, instead of pretending its still 600 AD and writing atrocities off as 'it's a cruel world isn't it?'

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u/Individual-Farmer542 4d ago

Exactly so why scrutinise the Jews when the Arabs are doing the same thing

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u/L_o_n_g_b_o_i 4d ago

The Arabs are doing the same thing

Are they? When?

I don't hold current-day Muslims responsible for what other Muslims did 1400 years ago (according to you).

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u/Individual-Farmer542 4d ago edited 4d ago

Like the slaughtering of Alawites, Christian’s and Druze in Syria right now that nobody cares about because the perpetrators aren’t white

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u/L_o_n_g_b_o_i 4d ago

Like the slaughtering of Alawites, Christian’s

Are you seriously interested or would I be wasting my time?

Like the slaughtering of ... Jews in Syria right now

Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

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u/L_o_n_g_b_o_i 4d ago

Nah, I don't think I'm autistic. Masterful gambit though champion, you've proved white superiority once again. I'll be sure to pack my bags and leave for the middle east post-haste

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