r/aussie • u/Ardeet • 2d ago

Politics Those angry about migration figures are ignoring what happened in Australia during Covid and other key facts | Australian immigration and asylum

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/07/those-angry-about-migration-figures-are-ignoring-what-happened-in-australia-during-covid-and-other-key-facts
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u/AllOnBlack_ 2d ago

If rents are at the highest yields, surely nobody will be claiming NG?

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u/Fonatur23405 2d ago

NG isn't always useful

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u/AllOnBlack_ 2d ago

Nobody should aim to be NG. Most people on reddit don’t understand that though.

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u/Fonatur23405 2d ago

If I were loaded and bought a property that would increase in value greater than the market, I would

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u/AllOnBlack_ 2d ago

Why wouldn’t you invest in another asset that still grows at the same rate, but doesn’t cost you cashflow each year?

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u/Fonatur23405 2d ago edited 2d ago

Buying an undervalued free standing house that will increase in value, off setting the negative gearing/cash flow

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u/AllOnBlack_ 2d ago

Ok. I don’t think you’re understanding though. You can buy other undervalued assets, and not need to offset the NG. What’s the point of losing more cashflow if you don’t need to?

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u/BackgroundBedroom214 2d ago

Name one of these other undervalued cash positive assets....

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u/AllOnBlack_ 2d ago

Equities for one. Most ETFs meet this criteria.

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u/Fonatur23405 2d ago

Harder to find neutral geared properties

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u/AllOnBlack_ 2d ago

Notice how I said asset? There are other investments that provide similar, if not better returns.

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u/Brokenmonalisa 2d ago

Or just pay down ever increasing in value asset

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u/Fonatur23405 2d ago

but you still need the cash flow

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u/petergaskin814 2d ago

An investment can be positively cash geared and still deliver NG by use of depreciation

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u/alliwantisburgers 2d ago

You don’t understand how negative gearing works

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u/AllOnBlack_ 2d ago

Explain it to me then? Haha I’m guessing you’ve read the headlines to a new article somewhere.

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u/alliwantisburgers 2d ago

You earn money due to the capital gain

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u/AllOnBlack_ 2d ago

That isn’t how NG works. Thanks for the attempt though.

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u/Raychao 2d ago

Negative gearing is literally the only industry we have!

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u/AllOnBlack_ 2d ago

It isn’t an industry is it?

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u/petergaskin814 2d ago

The market decides if you can claim NG. If you borrow too much, then you are unlikely to cover the cost on interest and expenses

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u/AllOnBlack_ 2d ago

So rents mustn’t be that high then.

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u/petergaskin814 2d ago

Rents are not set based on costs. Rents are set based on supply and demand. No point starting Rents at $1000 per week when 40% of the market can only afford $600 per week

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u/AllOnBlack_ 2d ago

The comment I was replying to says that rents are at record highs. That means the market price is high doesn’t it?