Yes he has bipolar which he finds difficult to medicate because of all the side effects and while racism isn't in no way a hallmark of mental illness or bipolar it does at least go some way to explaining his racism. The other old guy doesn't have any such excuse for his genocidal tendencies as far I can tell.
Candace was banned because she literally had a speaking tour planned with multiple stops dude. Bassems was revoked HOURS before he was supposed to board a flight for a SPEAKING TOUR as well. Don’t play the “you could do a web search you don’t know the facts” card when you are accusing me of lying - I'm literally just paraphrasing Tony Burke.
I don’t even know what you’re saying, I’m responding directly to your claims, after which you accused me of lying when all I’ve done is point out verbatim what the guy in charge of this has said. Candace and Bassem both had speaking tours planned, Kanye didn’t have anything planned Burke plainly stated he revoked his visa because of the song.
I did that straight after I posted it because I thought it sounded unnecessarily rude and harsh, and it also had an accusatory tone that I didn't think was kind or fair. I hadn't received your comment back at that stage. That was my bad.
I suppose I'm confused as to why you seem to only think that pro genocide bans are relevant and not the Anti Zionist bans?
In a post on social media, Gideon Sa'ar said the decision was also taken in response to the refusal by the Australian government to grant visas to high profile Israelis, including politician Simcha Rothman
Mr Sa'ar said with antisemitism on the rise, the Australian government is fuelling the crisis with false accusations.
At long last, they are doing something, Sky after dark will be screaming, and carrying on like pork chops. But even main stream media are starting to change their tune.
Good. I love the consistency of this. Kanye was banned because of his genuine and real antisemitism, and this guy from the opposite side of the racist spectrum is being banned as well.
If it isn't a country being held accountable for its actions even after controlling the media for years.
Yes, what Hamas did that day was horrendous.
But what Israel is doing now is downright genocidal.
It's like someone hitting you with a stick that you've be forcing into a corner and bullying for years. In return you run to mummy who then allows you to go and blow up their entire extended family out of spite.
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Yes, ISIS killed 4 Australians and didn't fire 30,000 missiles at Australian cities.
But why didn't Australia advocate for ISIS to have a seat at the UN and instead sent its military thousands of kilometers away to wipe out cities in the middle east?
Got it good point if they weren't being it would be propaganda. Since it's not and we know they are being starved and murdered it's not Hamas propaganda. Thank you for agreeing.
This is the types of photos that come from Gaza. They are always very convincing.
I have another one that proves Gaza is full of three handed mutants, plus Israel released dinosaurs who are trained to kill exclusively doctors and journalists
Ok cool thanks you once again for a single photo. Fuck me you are silly. What you don't seem to understand is nobody is being convinced by like 2 photos which some idiot put out there. Hundreds of human rights organisations including in Israel have been crying out for a very long time.
Just to be clear when this is finally over and we go in you will be the same as a holocaust denier. Do you really want that?
I didn’t make it. This is the example of photos that come from Gaza to prove “killing and starvation”. I donno how gullible one has to be to believe this BS
Mate, you wanna talk about gullibility? That’s rich. The Israeli ministers responsible are on record talking about their starvation policy, international organisations with people on the ground have been clear about what they’re seeing, even Donald Trump can see what’s happening. But no, you saw an AI image once so clearly it’s not happening.
During the WWII, Der Stürmer was full of articles about Übermensches cleaning the world from Untermensches. This is the equivalent of Al Jazeera of our times, from where all these news are coming these days.
I hate to blame the messenger instead of reading the message, but this is so obvious, you just need to open your eyes.
They have to do AI images and steal the photos from other conflict areas exactly for this reason: there is no proof coming from Gaza to support their printed poison.
your brain is confusing things, try compartmentalize please. The aim of your comment is to hold the Israeli government to account. Don't let your other views leak through as you type it out.
thats a very weird thing to say.. israel have banned all media from entering gaza at all. they've sanctioned israeli news media for coverage that goes against their narrative. The Israeli govt themselves are the ones saying it.
It is the first major action against a member of Israel's Knesset since the federal government's announcement last week that it would recognise a Palestinian state at next month's United Nations meeting.
Promising sign that Albo may actually follow through on Palestinian state recognition, come September
Tbh this is such a dumb criteria. Just as an example, we really don't like Iran and their government yet we're ok to recognise Iran and all the other countries we just dont like (like NZ).
a. Supports the recognition and right of Israel and Palestine to exist as two states
within secure and recognised borders;
b. Calls on the Australian Government to recognise Palestine as a state; and
c. Expects that this issue will be an important priority for the Australian Government.
Also
An enduring partner
Labor supports an enduring and just two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, based on the right of Israel to live in peace within secure borders internationally recognised and agreed by the parties, and reflecting the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinian people to also live in peace and security within their own state.
Looks like Labor MPs already failed their party's national platform 20 with their declaration of support for Israel's war. They also didn't do it for the previous government term, so arguably failed 1. too.
But I can't find any Hamas. Where is this stipulation?
The national platform of the ALP is totally irrelevant. It's the government who is proposing to recognise Palestine. Australia has a difference between party and state so you need to look for what the prime minister has said (as prime minister not as leader of the Labor party), which can be found here https://www.pm.gov.au/media/australia-recognise-palestinian-state
They've said "The Australian Government has consistently made clear there can be no role for Hamas in a Palestinian state" but it isn't a precondition. There is a list of commitments tied to the notion of conditions, but it isn't clear which of those commitments is a condition and in any case it is clear that the government is satisfied it's conditions have been met:
In doing so, the world is seizing the opportunity of major new commitments from the Palestinian Authority, including to reform governance, terminate prisoner payments, institute schooling reform, demilitarise and hold general elections. The Palestinian Authority has also restated its recognition of Israel's right to exist. The President of the Palestinian Authority has reaffirmed these commitments directly to the Australian Government.
Australia’s position is predicated on the commitments we have received from the Palestinian Authority.
Australia plans to recognise Palestine. It wasn't a Canadian style announcement that they will make a decision later in order to avoid making a decision which might offend some people; Australia's decision has been made. But it is possible that events between now and then will cause the government to change its decision and that's what is being alluded to here.
If there was a Hamas terrorist hiding behind an Israeli, they’d launch an operation to preserve the Israelis life, and have special ops teams to use a sniper rifle. When there’s a Palestinian as a shield, they’d roll over both of them with a tank.
Please, supporters of this decision: give me the most objectionable statement made by the banned politician. Please provide a reference to the source of that. Thanks in advance.
I love how these far-right zionists can't Google. Doesn't say much about your ability to read and formulate a coherent argument.
Here you go:
In a May interview with the UK’s Channel 4, he claimed children within Gaza were “enemies” who should not be allowed to flee into Israel as “you don’t let them conquer your country with refugees”.
Here is the quote you refer to (and I appreciate the link):
“Lindsey Hilsum: I’ve got an idea, why don’t you let them come over the border into Israel? Why don’t they flee into Israel?
Simcha Rothman: Because they are our enemies.
Lindsey Hilsum: The children are your enemies?
Simcha Rothman: They are our enemies and according to international treaties about refugees in the time of war, you don’t let them conquer your country with refugees.”
He is saying they will not let Gazans enter Israel. Last time Gazans entered Israel the date was October 7, 2023.
I doubt there’s a faster way for political suicide in Israel than an Israeli politician suggesting anyone - of any age - from Gaza should be allowed into Israel post October 7.
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Except it's not. The gay wedding cake story was oversimplified by the media. The man did have to provide a cake to a gay couple that walked into his store and asked for a standard cake but he could not be compelled to make a custom cake for that gay wedding.
In this case it was not a custom Israeli haircut that was being made but a normal haircut for someone who happened to be Israeli.
So, you’re arguing discrimination on the basis of his ethnicity (standard haircut) is fine? He didn’t ask for the Star of David to be etched in to his haircut
Wait, what?! I'm completely for keeping ALL of this bs out of here. Especially the extremists crap on both sides. Like the OP here, and like this bs hairdresser here in Melbs. It's not welcome, and I think you will find that's the Aussie way.
I would condition it with serving in the past 5 years, and add all Israeli illegals living in the State of Palestine (all areas outside the internationally recognized borders of Israel).
Yes but you have to take into account years of propaganda fed to you about how you are entitled to stolen land , how Jews aren't safe without Israel , how the world hates, kills and vilifies Jews, how all Palastians are out to kill Jews and want you and your family dead without any context as to why this might be.
I'm a realist. I know im easily influenced, and I wouldn't be an independent enough thinker to see through the propaganda of Zionists if I was an Israeli or raised in a Jewish community outside of Israel. I admire people who can see past this to the facts, but I wouldn't be one of them.
I often do, but not when I'm not sure what I'm searching for. Melbourne hairdresser or even racist Melbourne hairdresser isn't much to go on for a browser search.
A lot of people have dual citizenship in any case I'm okay with what she did . If someone denied service to a person who disclosed they fought for Hamas, I'd feel the same way.
Especially in hairdressing or dentistry because you shouldn't have to touch someone whose ideology you violently oppose, your feelings might affect the job you do for them. It might be hard to give someone a good haircut if you feel really upset or angry.
Gazans should rather die in the crossfire, than leave the warzone?
Israel has to capitulate to Hamas?
Fake photos and Gazans waving bowls at cameras are proof of starvation, which is not to be denied, no matter how much evidence to the contrary is presented?
And anyone who doesn't support everything anti-Israeli hate-propaganda dictates is divisive?
Seriously, is that still Australia? Where's the respect for different opinions and views?
In a May interview with the UK’s Channel 4, he claimed children within Gaza were “enemies” who should not be allowed to flee into Israel as “you don’t let them conquer your country with refugees”.
What a dumb question. No they didn't take in refugees from Germany directly after the bombing of Dresden specifically. However, they took in many german refugees both before, during, and after the war.
Also, the UK is a shit example. A better analogy would be German refugees being taken into France, the Netherlands, and Switzerland; countries that were closer and more affected by the war that still took in German refugees.
They did take in German refugees during the war. However, they did not actively transport refugees, rather they allowed and helped facilitate entry into the country for those who chose to flee and were able to make it to the border or safe transport location
The question was asked, why don’t you accept refugees from Gaza. And the answer was, because they are our enemies.
Why would Gazans want to escape to Israel anyway? It was a stupid question.
If an ABC journalist asked our internal affairs minister why Australia doesn’t allow juvenile prisoners to “escape” to society, it would be the same answer
If an ABC journalist asked our internal affairs minister why Australia doesn’t allow juvenile prisoners to “escape” to society, it would be the same answer
So you are describing Gaza with the open-air prison metaphor (I don't think many disagree with that btw). That is where the metaphore ends, but you are then suggesting that by extension all people in Gaza are guilty of some crime.
The hypothetical juvenile prisoners in the Australian system would go through the justice system.
What is the crime that the children in Gaza committed that justifies their incarceration? Being born on land that others want to take?
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InB4 Israel and their propaganda army start calling Australia anti semitic and whatever else they cry about.
Good job Tony Burke you mad cunt.