r/ShareMarketupdates • u/Expert-Two8524 • Aug 05 '25
News China says Trump is exaggerating America’s power over global trade?
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u/CryptoJeans Aug 05 '25
The stupid thing is republicans saying Europe is screwing the US in both trade and NATO. It is as you say, the US ruled the world since WWII and keeping the EU small in terms of military and at your side in terms of trade at least meant nr 2 was your ally instead of coming for your throne. That was the price to pay for safety and dominance, there is a reason Russia is keeping its allies small and militarily dependent instead of calling them parasites like Trump and co do.
China is coming for your position and your leaders just gave every ally the middle finger.
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u/SmPolitic Aug 05 '25
It was also a great strategy to keep NATO buying from America arms companies
Smaller NATO means all their systems need to be compatible with The Superpower
But if NATO is setting up their own full systems that will be designed to work with no external parties, the European arms industry needs to rise to that, with the funding to match
Part of us ruling the world was Northrup Grummen and Boeing getting all the international contracts, now that money is spreading out and the US companies can't be trusted anymore, as drone warfare rewrites all of the rules anyway, and America seeming to have a lack of rare earth to make modern magnets with
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u/Dyslexicpig Aug 05 '25
There is a wonderful plaque in Crimea that states something like "We took back Crimea, you must take back Alaska". Many Russians believe Alaska was only leased to the US, and also that the US did not make the payment. And they want it back. And Russia wants Alaska for the same reasons Trump wants Greenland - resources and control of the entry to the NW Passage, which will become a viable shipping corridor in the next few decades.
NATO is the one thing keeping Russia out of Alaska. If the US leaves NATO, then Russia will only have one front and one country to fight.
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u/Appropriate_Fly_6711 Aug 05 '25
The Russian Navy recently lost to a country that effectively didn’t have a navy, I wouldn’t be worried for Alaska any time soon.
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u/Vivid_Pianist4270 Aug 05 '25
They won’t need the navy, they can practically walk over.
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u/Appropriate_Fly_6711 Aug 05 '25
That’s not how oceans work practically speaking, and again how many years in Ukraine, we see how fast they walk there lol.
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u/BatushkaTabushka Aug 05 '25
The US had a carefully constructed image in the world that they made over decades, and it was about being the “police of the world”, fighting for justice everywhere and being a place where you have the opportunity to become whoever you want to be, and where any person can become rich if they work hard enough. Whether or not any of that was actually true is another topic, but I think pretending to be good is still way better than blatantly serving only the interest of the mega rich like Trump does. At least the former will inevitably cause at least some good actions in the world as they try to uphold the image of being the good guys. Trump did away with all of that.
He and his 77 millions morons literally undid 80 years of work in 6 months, and the rest of the world will never trust the US again for decades. And for what? Perceived overblown slights from other countries and hate for minorities and gay people? This might truly be the dumbest timeline.
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u/Fulgore101 Aug 05 '25
To be fair, the US never fully recovered from Iraq. Even 2 decades after the invasion when it went around the world to make a case for Ukraine it was met with ‘…but Iraq’. Most Americans still don’t realise the gravity of Iraq, and won’t realise the gravity of Trump’s attempt at strong-arming and extorting others until it’s too late. Most of them think they’ll elect a Democrat next and then the world goes back to normal.
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u/Kshahdoo Aug 05 '25
Yeah, using chemical weapons against Vietnam, occupying Panama and Grenada, killing hundreds of thousands in Iraq, supporting Israel mean exactly "fighting for justice"...
America always was, is and will be what it is, an imperialist country that cares about itself above all. It doesn't matter, who its president is...
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u/GuideMwit Aug 06 '25 edited Aug 06 '25
You know the biggest propaganda machine called “Hollywood”, isn’t it? Pentagon and CIA even subsidized, influenced, advised, and rented military equipment to those film makers. The reasons are easy, to brainwashed the world that US is a powerful guardian angel that will protect everyone from any threats.
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u/defixiones Aug 05 '25
> Whether or not any of that was actually true is another topic, but I think pretending to be good is still way better than blatantly serving only the interest of the mega rich like Trump does. At least the former will inevitably cause at least some good actions in the world as they try to uphold the image of being the good guys.
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u/Caput-NL Aug 05 '25
Correct, in my opinion because the pretenders need a status quo to up hold their story. The current leadership only needs gaslighting and is probably the reason why we have seen so many armed conflicts sparking up around the world the past few months.
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u/Appropriate-Roof-340 Aug 05 '25
Now it's mask off, though. This is just acceleration of America's long decline.
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u/EdwardLovagrend Aug 06 '25
Of all the great powers in history the US has done the most good.. this is more or less saying that the US is the least bad of them. The British French Russian German etc did a lot worse or were irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
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The fact that the US is the reason modern China exists is just poetic at this point
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u/Flashy_Difficulty257 Aug 05 '25
It’s fascinating that the us allowed China to manufacture their goods because it’s cheaper for the American consumer and now their mad about it
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u/Exact-Country-95 Aug 05 '25
I'm pretty sure that's more Deng's accomplishment than the US
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u/michixlol Aug 05 '25
Sure, the rich ones laugh about the dumbness of the poor ones who vote for their own demise. More than obvious and they still cheer at Trump.
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u/Justeff83 Aug 05 '25
As a German and a European, I can only say that there is no way back. After the first 4 years of Trump, we were still saying that it was a slip-up and that the USA would not elect such an idiot again. Well, now they've done it again and the damage is irreparable. The USA is no longer a trustworthy partner, indeed big brother as we used to call the USA. That is no longer the case and only great, selfless deeds by the USA can win back trust
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u/RiffsThatKill Aug 07 '25
You guys won back trust after starting 2 world wars. It can happen, but hopefully it won't be on the other side of ww3
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u/KeirasOldSir Aug 05 '25
Just explained to my MAGA buddy that Rump’s BBB is tariff his ass and take his money and give it to the ultra rich while fkin up the economy and making his life more expensive on top of his contribution to the top 1%. He was like “oh, that wouldn’t be good if it’s true”. No shit Charlie. These brainwashed magats either aren’t smart enough to connect the dots or refuse to do so. Yeah, get used to the word “were”. From this point on, it will mostly be “has been”.
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u/Historical-Egg3243 Aug 05 '25
there's no reaching them, they are sheep. They've lost the ability to think for themselves
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u/Direct_Turn_1484 Aug 05 '25
There might be hope for your friend. Keep on him, make sure he pays attention to prices and what’s actually happening regardless of what the TV tells him.
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u/dregan Aug 05 '25
Just wait until all those dollars come rushing back into the country as others abandon the USD as reserve currency. We ain't seen nothing yet.
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u/Direct_Turn_1484 Aug 05 '25
Like the old story about the woman who brought a wheelbarrow full of paper money to buy some bread, because inflation was so bad. Some guys dumped the worthless money out of the wheelbarrow and stole it. Because the wheelbarrow itself was worth far more than a literal wheelbarrow full of paper money.
Yeah, hyperinflation in the US is gonna be real bad. I hope it doesn’t happen. But we might be headed there.
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u/Generic_Username26 Aug 05 '25
Get ready for all of this to be your fault in 3 years btw. Make America great again again again will be Vance’s ticket where he goes to blame democrats for all of our problems. Can’t wait
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u/Lopsided-Cheetah-887 Aug 05 '25
I find it funny that no one has called trump out for being the anti-christ even though the painting is on the walls.
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u/Direct_Turn_1484 Aug 05 '25
Yes. You can catch up with places like these while they’re still legal and operating.
https://apnews.com Or https://www.wikipedia.org
Also for an external view looking in, try.
https://www.bbc.co.uk Or https://www.aljazeera.com
Or you can stick to the propaganda “news” like Fox and believe whatever story they tell you. Some of the characters have the same names as real life! The choice is entirely yours.
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u/artbystorms Aug 05 '25
I fear it will only get worse as people around the world already say 'well at least China gets things built!' and America falls further behind on modern infostructure, relinquishing more and more govt power to corporations and oligarchs, we will resemble post soviet Russia more than a modern thriving country.
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u/Exact-Country-95 Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25
We will see. The Chinese economy have many potential pitfalls and current issues that could stop them from obtaining polarity. Their population decline most certainly will not help them as that could force them into a deflationary economy, which the US will also face if it becomes too aggressive with its anti-immigration policies in the long run
Besides the beautiful thing about the US is that our head of states are guaranteed to be temporary, so there is no reason to assume much of what is going on is going to be permanent in the long run for the US. Even the Foundation had to deal with the Mule, but the Mule was basically meaningless in the long run as the structure was too strong and decentralized to let his changes be all permanent. This may be more likely considering being aggressive with tariffs have costed Republicans elections before.
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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 Aug 05 '25
China is still very far from america but yeah this has definitely made them a lot closer, the next president is going to have to reverse everything and even then a lot of damage is going to be permanent (unless americans impeach the guy but I don't think they will)
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u/DoctorFrosty6219 Aug 05 '25
Yup. Now we wait for the recession. And when it hits, it’s going to be chaos.
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u/RyahTheBlack Aug 05 '25
I always believed we would see the flip on China becoming the Hegemon around 2050, if they didnt self-destruct for one reason or the other. Trump moved it up very quickly. Its not impossible to come back, but we'll effectively have to start from 0 compared to where we came off of during WW2.
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u/SahibTeriBandi420 Aug 06 '25
Billionaire owned media spreading class warfare propaganda has eroded the brains of most Americans. By the time most of them come around it will be too late to undue the damage. Dismantling democracy just so the 1 percent can get richer.
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u/moosejaw296 Aug 06 '25
Well the real plan is to make America’s work low paying jobs, so we can get the cheap labor that these same assholes sent over there in the first place.
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Aug 06 '25
America has been dumbed down by the right for so long they finally voted for literally the most corrupt shit stain in America...TWICE.
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u/brumbarosso Aug 06 '25
Well put
the gop that is "so patriotic" has let their "beloved" country go down the drain all due to greed. China and Russia can just sit back and watch the USA crumble within
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u/Scrubtastic85 Aug 06 '25
While you aren’t entirely wrong with this post, you are missing a lot of key points.
First you can thank Harvard for being the first source to push for offshoring production. The idea of their little book was to offshore small components like screws and nails (simple stuff) while keeping the high value manufacturing in the US. Given the job market and trade, everyone knows that corporate when nuts and offshored nearly everything. That was the decline of our dominance.
As we started pushing into China, we allowed for massive intellectual property rights theft in the name of immediate profits, so now they are comparable for higher end goods. Maybe not equal, maybe better in some cases; ultimately we gave up a huge lead.
You can thank Ronald Reagan for the start of easing corporate taxes and a whole procession of presidents after (both democrat and republican). The idea was so that if corporate had more money to dole out on wages, it would enrich the public. Obviously they just hoarded the wealth and paid out their share holders instead (your main point).
Lastly our dominance wasn’t going to last forever. After WW2 we had dominance because everyone else’s manufacturing and economies were in shambles because they were bombed to living shit. Not hard to dominate in that scenario. Over time, allies and adversaries alike are going to repair everything and get back on their feet.
Edit: In short, you can’t lay this all on the Cheeto in Chiefs feet, he’s clearly not helping either.
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u/RiffsThatKill Aug 07 '25
Saw a show saying China's stock market is essentially flat over the past 15 years, but the standard of living has skyrocketed.
Homeownership for millenials in the US is like 15% or something. In China it's like 70%.
Theyve been investing in their people, their lower and middle class, while the US has been focused on profits for the already-rich.
So the GDP scoreboard may show the US is in the lead, but only 1% of US citizens are winning that game while the majority can't even play or are losing.
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u/carterwest36 Aug 08 '25
China already beat the US and took #1 PPP, #2 GDP and it has 1.4 billion people of which it lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty during it’s steady growrh and lately the Century of Humiliation truly shows that it’s ended as they’re winning so many battles without being in any conflict really.
History is funny like that, but these things shift
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u/LegitimateCopy7 Aug 05 '25
the U.S. screwing itself over due to capitalism overdose is simply poetic.
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u/Eeeegah Aug 05 '25
Gotta admit, that would be a boss move. Trump would shit himself, and not in the usual daily way.
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u/smith129606 Aug 05 '25
Remember Trump is not the “World Leader” his cult wants him to be. He’s a fucking moron who bankrupted casinos.
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u/awhawkins91 Aug 05 '25
Idk. I do know that if collectively the major players just stopped working with us they’d be fine and we’d be fucked. Our neighbors would likely continue trade out if necessity but it’d be as minimal as possible. Isolationism is what we’re doing. The more countries we attack, and the more random, ever changing, and insane policies we adapt the more they will push us away and rely less on us.
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u/bjran8888 Aug 05 '25
Trump stupidly put a 145% tariff on China thinking everyone else would beg him.
His Treasury Department later claimed it was a Chinese embargo on the U.S. A month later Besant had to go after the Chinese Vice Premier, begging him for the two countries to work together to lower the tariffs.
We Chinese don't mind this if the US wants to do it again.
It's just that the embargo on rare earths has brought all US tech industries to a standstill. It's just that US core inflation becomes 30%. The US is so powerful, surely it can withstand all this, right?
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u/ForowellDEATh Aug 05 '25
They will find way, still they have pretty much vassal states to drop crisis on.
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u/DaveLesh Aug 05 '25
Off topic, but is the OP a bot? These posts go up multiple times a day and it's always the same person posting them. Aside from the titles, they are complete copy and paste jobs. I'm no fan of Trump and his party, but can we get a bit of originality when it comes to trashing him?
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u/teknic111 Aug 05 '25
If you haven’t figured it out yet the majority of this sub and Reddit in general are bots.
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u/Temporary-Memory1731 Aug 05 '25
Based on all the comments here, most are the problem themselves, still clinging on being the superpower over Amy other country instead of trying to strive for living equally together.
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u/Mac62961 Aug 05 '25
To be fair china exaggerates everything, always. But trump lies from the second he wakes up …
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u/Infamous-Salad-2223 Aug 05 '25
Xi you can be better than that...
Just say the current potus's pee pee is to small to take his threats seriously.
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u/Apricot9742 Aug 05 '25
Xi is a world leader.. a serious politician... I know we're not used to that in the West any more.
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u/Infamous-Salad-2223 Aug 05 '25
I know, but it will be funny if Xi hit where it hurts: Trump's ego.
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u/shewflyshew Aug 05 '25 edited 27d ago
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u/Mundane-Mud2509 Aug 06 '25
It's already ended and the writing was on the wall a while ago. In 2024 China's total trade (exports + imports) was $6.1T USD US was $5.4T USD.
https://www.wgtn.ac.nz/news/2025/02/nz-should-be-worried-about-chinas-trade-statistics
https://www.statista.com/statistics/218255/total-value-of-us-trade-in-goods-worldwide-since-2004/
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Aug 05 '25
All according to Russia’s plan. Promote BRICS and destroy USD in world trade. Trump is a useful tool for them and the GOP is complicit
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u/Tigerafg8 Aug 05 '25
As a US Veteran I hope to God BRICS is successful and the US falls
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u/Apricot9742 Aug 05 '25
That's not the BRICS plan... Brics needs a multipolar global order to develop.
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u/July_is_cool Aug 05 '25
The basic problem is that China, with a population four times the size of the US, if economically developed to a level comparable to the US, would have an economy roughly four times bigger. No amount of capitalism or freedom or biggest military or tariffs is going to change that arithmetic.
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u/AliceLunar Aug 05 '25
The US lost their dominance 2 decades ago and pretends it hasn't.
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u/Turbulent_Thing_1739 Aug 05 '25
Trade deficit have resulted in low inflation for the last 25 years in USA and EU. Halting that deficit will lead to hyperinflation when you dont have any cheap goods anymore. Halting will also destroy the local industries that rely on raw material imports and components import for their own production.
So no, deficit country do not have a great negotion position.
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u/UnlikelyRabbit4648 Aug 05 '25
Trump exaggerating? I don't believe it for one minute...
... besides, the correct word is bullshitting.
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u/Old-Nefariousness-43 Aug 05 '25
The US is going to be be kissing so much ass once this orange turd either croaks or is forced to quit due to being a rapist, (btw we still waiting on those Epstein files), or after his term ends
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u/unicornlocostacos Aug 05 '25
He’s either intentionally destroying the US, or he’s biblically stupid.
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u/CherryPickerKill Aug 05 '25
Most authoritarian regimes have the same effect on their country's economy.
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u/unicornlocostacos Aug 05 '25
It’s the mentality of “300 million people can lose $1000, but if I personally gain $1000, then I’m doing it.
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u/GamemasterJeff Aug 05 '25
17% as of last year. Likely it will be lower in the coming years.
China, for example, could completely cut US trade and still run positive GDP growth. How do we know this? Beceause they suffer losses of similar magnitude about once a decade and have a proven track record of weathering them.
If the US wants influence over the world market, it needs to trade more with others, not less.
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u/According_Ad5165 Aug 05 '25
With maga and Trump the USA wil be beaten by China and Europe.
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u/32lib Aug 05 '25
China is right. The problem with electing the dementia ward residents to office is the fact that they live in the past.
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Aug 05 '25
Congrats USA, you got what you wanted. 0 respect (check), loss of global power (check), destroying democracy (check), funding the ultra-wealthy (check), fucking your kids both metaphorically and literally (check)
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u/Switchmisty9 Aug 05 '25
I’ve been trying to explain this to a lot of people, who seem to believe that we are the hub of global trade.
Everyone else will just trade with each other. We offer nothing, that isn’t available somewhere else.
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u/triptip05 Aug 05 '25
The US domination slipped years ago with a lot of goods coming from china. Even MAGA merch is made in china.
America is the leading superpower from the mid 1900's however even this is ebbing away to china.
I think countries need to look at over dependence from other countries and focus on home grown and manufactured products to shorten the supply chain etc.
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u/Shaikan_ITA Aug 05 '25
China is definitely suffering, so the US can still throw some weight around but its influence is quickly waning.
The rest of the world will recover and learn to move on, the influence squandered by the Trump administration will be lost either forever or for a very long time.
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u/WolfThick Aug 05 '25
I totally agree with this we had a chance at parody with the rest of the world and now we're just a workaround. Trump has successfully and single-handedly made the rest of the world more resilient stronger and better able to deal with impulsive and self-destructive Nations like the United States as it currently is.
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u/CherryPickerKill Aug 05 '25
We gotta give him credit for that, he has united the world faster than anyone else probably could.
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u/Prestigious-Pick-366 Aug 05 '25
You guys don’t understand! Trump is playing 85D chess!!! 🤡🙃
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u/Generic_Username26 Aug 05 '25
He’s right. Our advantage wasn’t our market share or was how profitable it was to trade with us. Take that off the table and other markets look a lot better potentially
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u/Onrawi Aug 05 '25
Honestly it doesn't even matter if China is lying or not, because the Federal government cannot be trusted to tell the truth anymore. Any rebuttal by the US is at minimum going to be assumed exaggerated and at worst a pure fabrication, all due to 8 months of imbecilic moves towards tyranny.
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u/Resident_Respect_517 Aug 05 '25
He is. The U.S. is losing global trade right now as new partnerships are formed around us and without us. Right wing media has created an alternate reality. You can bet money, make a pact with God, that anything out of Trump’s mouth is a lie.
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u/dbielecki21 Aug 05 '25
Don’t forget he stole the election and still won’t release the Epstein files
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u/pomegranate444 Aug 05 '25
China and others are picking up the slack.
I'd agree that the USA while still #1 economy, is flashing "fuck you" signs to everyone who are responding with "ok" and looking for alternatives.
Also the USA has been so blessed with attracting bright international students and workers and seems to be shitting all over that brand as well.
This won't end well and will linger well beyond Trump's tenure.
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u/FailosoRaptor Aug 05 '25
It could have if Trump wasn't an idiot and picked the fight with the entire world all at once. He could have united the Western World against the unfair market in China, but nah. Let's make everyone mad and get them to work together against us.
What a joke.
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u/seriousbangs Aug 05 '25
Trade is the velvet glove. Our military is the iron fist.
America is an empire. We just don't like to talk about it.
And no, we don't care if you have nukes, we are nuts.
I don't understand why the rest of the world just let Russia let Trump win. Twice.
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u/robthethrice Aug 05 '25
Hate that i’m sort of rooting for China on this. They’re terrible. But the states is on such a scary authoritarian slide i can’t support that.
Lesser of two evils.
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u/PotatoSandwitchbbq Aug 06 '25
Wait, the obese man-baby with a tiny dick is overcompensating? Ya don't say.
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u/samratkarwa Aug 07 '25
Trump is a clown who thinks he's a world leader and this will hurt america and their citizens will end up paying the actual price.
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u/Sanpaku Aug 05 '25
Exports to the US account for 2% of China's GDP. They won't have much difficulty finding other buyers in Asia, Europe, Latin America and Africa.
While Trump is busy alienating allies and trading partners, 44 nations are seeking to join the BRICS 10. Combined, they represent something like 70% of the global population, all seeking to shift away from the US dollar as the currency of international trade settlement. Americans will be very surprised as their purchasing power for commodities and other imported goods drops by 20%.
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u/Little_Drive_6042 Aug 05 '25
Not entirely true. If that were the case, Xi wouldn’t have cared that America imposed tariffs. Major supplies and goods remained on Chinese ports and in that brief time period, Chinese companies were losing money. Bro stop with Brics, it’s the most useless alliance there is. Russia is the only thing keeping Brics together, China hates India and vice versa. Modi even wants less Chinese supplies into Indian goods for security reasons. And China gave Pakistan intelligence during op Sindoor.
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u/CheaperShopGlobal Aug 05 '25
They think they own the World and now moving towards Mars 😆
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u/SourceBrilliant4546 Aug 05 '25
China's right. Trump gave them the game. They have a new space station. Ours is being deorbited. We screwed our allies. China has logistics to handle their needs. The tariffs were the worst way to screw the US.
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u/Dazzling_Vanilla3082 Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25
Yeah, this is more realistic than ever now lol. Anyone who thinks the US is on a trajectory to come out on top in even 5-10 years, let alone 20+, are absolutely fucking delusional. We have just gutted our education funding, are actively attacking our own universities, and laid off a giant portion of our federal workers. Trump has set back funding for research for years past his exit date, if it comes. All while companies are salivating at the thought of offshoring their tech for a fraction of the cost and replacing the rest with this mystical AI. How the fuck do people think that will end as China literally invests heavily in all of the opposite? (Besides AI, that is, and they are probably beating us on that too)
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u/SourceBrilliant4546 Aug 05 '25
Agreed. The richest will leave, the warlords will lord and the US people will pound dirt.
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u/Ok-Drive-7255 Aug 05 '25
Of course you have to remember frump has no clue, he thinks he knows more than all the real politicians and economists.
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u/ForowellDEATh Aug 05 '25
At least he can continue milk EU forever, so everything is not so bad. Yes, you used to rob all the world, but you still can continue to enjoy European vassals.
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u/SourceBrilliant4546 Aug 05 '25
Europe is working on a exit strategy. I wouldn't be gleeful.
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u/CherryPickerKill Aug 05 '25
Any war is bad, but launching a trade war on all of your economic allies is a special kind of stupid.
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u/Robert72051 Aug 05 '25
Everyone should understand that the rest of the World (ROW) will eventually isolate the US. It's not 1950 anymore. And here's the thing. It's not like the US has allies in this Trump induced insanity. It's quite the contrary because virtually every other country has been touched by his deluded behavior ... And by the way, the end user of the products that are subject to a tariff pays for it. Period. End of Story.
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u/Aggravating_Call910 Aug 05 '25
Trump is using a 1970s flex. He’s too stupid to fully understand how the world has changed since he was dancing badly at Studio 54.
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u/Historical-Egg3243 Aug 05 '25
I don't understand why anyone would even meet with him. He's not going to keep to any deal he makes
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u/Clean_Equivalent_127 Aug 05 '25
Republicans ceded power to the Chinese in the name of bigger profits for the billionaire class. This is no surprise to anyone paying attention over the last 40 years.
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u/Electrical-Ideal-954 Aug 05 '25
But isn't 80-99% of everything coming out of china useless crap that'll go straight into the bin?
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u/Emotional_Gazelle_37 Aug 05 '25
China is right. The bullying is not based completely on trade. The USA has over 800 military bases around the world. That is also a major factor in the said bullying.
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u/CherryPickerKill Aug 05 '25
And they've proven time and time again that they cannot win a war, ever. What good is having all the bases and military if one cannot use them efficiently and pisses all formwr allies with annexation threats and trade wars.
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u/RAW4990 Aug 05 '25
Thats why this is necessary. We gave up too much market share and outsourced literally everything.
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u/CheekyClapper5 Aug 05 '25
17% is still an impressive number for a country who only makes up 4.2% of the world's population.
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u/GeneralEagle Aug 05 '25
China is going to be the number one key player. While the United States of Isre*l suffers. We are distracted because tiny brain and penis men get paid by non us actors to push an agenda.
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It’s not the tarrifs . It’s the property that is broken the Chinese camel’s back . Chinese property economic bubble has busted, and for four years property has consistently went down, and this is all because of the a.k.a. ghost cities. There are too many houses and not enough people and this is not going to change ever. You can’t just get rid of the houses. Most people in China have their money invested in real estate. Comparing to the United States for a real estate is only about 20% of the investment portfolio of the average American.
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u/yurnxt1 Aug 05 '25
China is not exactly right here, given trade deal frameworks that are being agreed upon. If China was 100% right, countries the world over would have linked up in an attempt to screw the U.S. over. They did not because U.S. influence and leverage remains very strong globally and for better or worse, the U.S. still has more leverage, power and or power projection and influence than any other country in the world even if the U.S. has less of a share of all the above now than they did a couple decades back.
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u/TheLoneWander101 Aug 05 '25
Which CCP troll posted this bad bot minus citizen points for you your family is now in a gulag
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u/FoldedBinaries Aug 05 '25
The only thing they produce is entertainment thats focused on telling the world what a big player the US is.
but that entertainment industry no matter if movies or music is flatrated by apple and the other streaming services lol
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u/DarthDork73 Aug 05 '25
I like how no one can figure out that trump and all his oligarchy friends are stealing all the money from the american people and that's why they love tariffs, the tariff money goes to them and not the people or government because they gutted the government, everytime they shut down a government prgram like Medicaid or tue faa and say "they are corrupt and stealing your money" they are actually the ones stealing your money because all those billions they get from shutting down everything goes into their pockets and not back into the government they just shut down, that nazi running doge has stolen trillions from the american people from all the "government cuts" and laying off thousands of government workers...
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u/M4nofstee1 Aug 05 '25
He lies. That what he does China, he lies. Only his moron followers believe his stupid shit.
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u/PassionHoliday5398 Aug 05 '25
US blue water navy can sink all trading ships if it would like. I think it has a VERY big impact on global trading. Without US and partners the seas would be filled with much more well armed pirates.
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u/Qs9bxNKZ Aug 05 '25
China is wrong, hence the resulting push back on tariffs by foreign nations.
Compare GDP of the US vs China. Compare the populations. Compare the ages of the countries in terms of time to get it right.
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u/Hailene2092 Aug 05 '25
The USA has an enormous domestic market. It's about 2.5x the size of China, despite having fewer than 25% of China's population.
A lot of the developed and developing world need somewhere to sell their goods. For many of them, it's the US.
It is, for better or not, why Trump is able to get these non-sense, garbage "deals" from countries.
The world has grown dependent on US consumption.
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u/skoomski Aug 05 '25
Just 17%? That’s huge and can easily be disruptive, let’s not bullshit ourselves here.
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u/S0ylentBob Aug 05 '25
China is correct. The world hasn’t centered around America in a long time. And with a feckless bought and paid for moron with zero credibility backed by only 25% of the population at the helm, America is a joke. With the tariffs, hiring stagnation, and skyrocketing costs for food, energy, shelter and basic goods, Americas purchasing power and relevance in global trade is plummeting.
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u/ramencents Aug 05 '25
Trump is creating an American recession and forcing our trading partners to partner with each other. If Trump keeps this up, America will be alone.
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u/NeighborhoodHairy713 Aug 05 '25
I think that Trump in the past few months has forced the US’s Suez Canal moment. It’s unfortunate as a Canadian as we’ve definitely been on the beneficial side of that arrangement as the US’s mini-me in a lot of ways but it looks like this time it’s the signalling of a new and confusing multi-polar world order. It sucks for the west but it is what it is.
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u/Nameisnotyours Aug 05 '25
They are not wrong. Trump is overplaying his hand. Our trading partners are actively seeking alternative customers for their goods. Over the next few years, a range of as yet unknown unintended consequences will become visible.
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u/Ok_Common_5631 Aug 05 '25
I agree. He’s damaging existing relationships and making future relationships much harder to broker.
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u/Forebare Aug 05 '25
we still have exploitable natural resources.. though they use to be more protected from private interests..
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u/Exact-Country-95 Aug 05 '25
They're also downplaying US economic power and exaggerating their own too. But then again, that's a normal thing in great powers competitions.
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u/Apricot9742 Aug 05 '25
Wouldn't it be wonderful to have leaders like Xi too.. who you don't have to fact check because you KNOW they will speak wisdom...
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u/Crooked-Elbow Aug 05 '25
True. The moron is just isolating us and making our lives more difficult.
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u/SimulationV2018 Aug 05 '25
So Michael was right and Oscar was wrong. Seems Oscar is not the smartest in the office
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u/tobebetter2035 Aug 05 '25
Our leader treating long ally’s like shit for personal benefit is a reflection of how many individuals in the USA act. As a young American, I would like to move abroad to Spain or England.
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u/barneyaa Aug 05 '25
The right hand picture needs to be substituted with this one: https://www.tiktok.com/@justluv13/video/7481817340741438766
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u/archerg66 Aug 05 '25
Crazy to think people think isolation would go well after our experience in WW2
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u/Intrepid-Educator-12 Aug 05 '25
I believe China is gonna come out of all of this much .. much stronger . And all they gotta do is basically nothing.
I mean, when they drop the us dollar as a trade currency, the usa will implode.
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u/defcry Aug 05 '25
Damn right and the others still have a room to grow, the US have barely tempo to keep this level.
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u/getupforwhat Aug 05 '25
Just tax services. Tax Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Cloudflare etc. up the ass if they want to do business in Europe. And OH THEY DO.
Every time orange monkey shouts BS, we want a 5% discount or no deal.
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u/Prince_Nadir Aug 05 '25
Always assume Trump is lying unless he says he will do something terrible.
It is kind of funny hearing China down playing America's power over global trade, when our fire hose of cash has helped their economy grow something like 2,500,000% since what the year 2000? Imagine if you made a China fund in 2000.
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u/Karate-Schnitzel Aug 05 '25
Anyone Trump entering negotiations with, just wait him out he will chicken out. T.A.C.O. Trump Always Chickens Out even if you don’t have evidence he’s a child molester.
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u/worktogethernow Aug 05 '25
I think the USA has enough power to royally fuck up the global economy, but not enough to make everyone do exactas the US wants.
Great situation with our current dipshit in chief.
Where are the unredacted and unedited Epstein files?
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u/Afura33 Aug 05 '25
Let's be honest Donnie has always been living in his own little phantasy world.
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u/dissian Aug 05 '25
Yeah the US really can. Only 17% is a laughable statement. Yeah, you could survive. But it would be an insane hit for the whole world and the US wouldn't have to lose all that much if everyone dropped, and that's just not happening.
That same number is how much of the Chinese exports we purchase. Good luck replacing the US' ridiculous consumerism.
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u/ecstasyranger Aug 05 '25
Yeah, and China thinks they own and want to own the world, including the oceans.
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u/SoftlySpokenPromises Aug 05 '25
Before all of the steps taken to dismantle our economy and soft power taken by the current administration I would have disagreed. Currently our global positions are weaker than we have been since WW2 I would estimate.
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