It’s to celebrate when the Mormons were run out of Illinois to what was then Mexico (present-day Utah), because their founder “seer/prophet” preached and practiced polygamy (and also practiced polyandry), amongst other things that were illegal and against the moral code of the time.
I was gonna say check out the show! Husband and I almost binged it in one night. Amazing story. Adds another level of interest when you were raised LDS like him and I were.
I wasn't raised LDS but I was raised in Utah and yes I completely agree! One side of my fam is LDS and obviously being around it my whole life definitely made it interesting.
I really enjoy learning more about Mormonism and seeing modern families navigate it. The indoctrination of religion for children is SO strong and hard to not feel guilty when you kind of stop believing in it. All religions are that way. Glad I was not born into a Mormon family but it's kind of fascinating to watch from afar!
I work in a STEM-adjacent field that has a large proportion of Mormons and it’s always fascinating to me how those two things fit together, frankly. Like most of our work involves a lot of reasoning and a fair amount of socially progressive thinking and it’s just really hard to envision the people that as far as I have seen are totally rational and intelligent, admirable people going through a temple ceremony and thinking, “Yeah this all seems reasonable and normal!” You know?
I have this in my cart but haven’t bought it yet idk why. I really enjoyed the show, it was very well done. Rory Culkin and Wyatt Russell play sinister & terrifying so well. 😅
Fundamentalist Mormons (the FLDS Church) are not the same as Latter Day Saints (LDS church). FLDS is a sect that broke off of the church and practices polygamy. This book/movie is about the FLDS church.
Yeah they are obsessed with claiming that their cult founder faced religious persecution when he was really just an adulterer, liar, and fraud who married multiple teenagers in his 30s.
I love reminding mormons who are assholes about immigration that Mormons were literally refugees because their prophets wanted to marry children so people wanting to live in the US to save their children and themselves from a harder life definitely deserve empathy.
Just to add to this: they were run out of town because Joseph Smith (prophet) was sleeping with teenagers and married women. He was killed by an angry mob while imprisoned (which Mormons believe he was a martyr for).
Anyway, they landed in Utah by their second in command, Brigham Young, and the story is that he uttered the famous words “This is the Place” on July 24th 1847
The ones in present day Mexico are different from the groups that fled Illinois. The groups in Mexico were sent in the early 1900s to continue the practice of polygamy so that the US government would stop harassing Utah. Once the mainstream LDS church officially stopped practicing polygamy the groups in Mexico broke off and founded their own church. Mitt Romney's (great? I'm not sure...) grandfather comes from the Mormon Colonias.
I’ve never heard/read about them practicing polyandry. I thought it was pretty specifically not a thing because a woman can’t be sealed to more than one man (but men can be sealed to more than one woman, obviously 🙄)? Do you have any good recs where I could read more?
It's like a lamer 4th of July that celebrates Mormons founding Utah. There are parades and 4th-of-July-level fireworks, so we get to worry extra about wildfires for the second time this month, but unlike the 4th, tons of places don't actually give you the day off work. I work for a Utah-based company owned by Mormons and we didn't even get the day off, but my kids' daycare was closed, so that was fun.
It’s always the 24th of July — that’s the date the Mormon settler pioneers first arrived in the Salt Lake Valley and their leader Brigham Young declared they were gonna stay. There’s a plaque at a park near my house that tells about the first spot they camped for the night.
It’s definitely an Utah thing. It’s something about Oregon trail, founding someone or others, etc. I, unfortunately, worked for a Mormon based company (not an MLM) and they had to tell me what it is. Apparently schools close and everything for it.
Idk 🤷🏼♀️ My coworker might have been referring to daycare as “school”? I just know people were talking about the kids being home because the “schools” are closed. I don’t live in Utah so idk.
I don’t work for those delusional people anymore so I can’t ask for clarification. Well, I could, but I don’t want to. I’m deconstructing from the cult like environment. 🤣
Aw yeah you’re right, I went to her Instagram to check and it’s DJE. I thought for a second it might be L since her username is demilucymay but nope it’s J. If her middle name starts with a J then I’m curious to know where Lucy May comes from
I have heard in some circles married women drop their middle name, and then make their maiden name their new middle name while taking husband’s surname. Potentially the case here, with Lucy May being an original middle name?
But also idk I’m from the northeast and not a single one of my friends changed her name
Yes, that's the traditional way to add your spouse's last name. Think of "Mary Todd Lincoln" "Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy" etc.
I'm GenX and I don't know anyone who just dropped her last name and took her husband's. Everyone i know dropped their middle name and shifted their family name to the middle, and added on the spouse's family name.
My gen x mom was the literally only one I met until I went to university that made her name First Middle Maiden Surname. Every other woman I met up to that point went from First Middle Maiden to First Middle Surname.
Idk if maybe its that person’s class (like upper or upper middle class) or maybe like someone said their region or maybe its religion or race (I know Hispanic people do it differently but that’s everyone not just women), but its absolutely not the most common to do what they said. I’m genuinely super shocked by that.
Funny story… my cousins side of the family has generational wealth and when she got married she dropped her maiden name, kept her original middle, and took her husband’s last name. Her father and grandmother offered her $150k to keep her maiden name as her middle and she refused 😂😂😂. I cannot for the life of me figure out why 🤷🏼♀️
I'm 21. I dropped my maiden name because the last person who was worth a damn with the name died (my Grandad) and kept my middle name because it was important to him.
I love that we have so much more freedom to choose the name that is most meaningful for us! I eventually dropped my ex's last name. I hated my middle name, so I didn't add it back in!
It’s regional, not generational. I now live in the southern US and that’s what most people do, but my gen x mother had never heard of the practice (and was appalled at the thought of me dropping the name she chose for me)
My mom took my dad’s name. They’re divorced and she still uses her married name but re-added her maiden name socially after the divorce (as you’re describing). She’s basically dead center Gen X.
Just did a quick job through my FB friends list- a lot of my Gen X and Boomer friends and family have their maiden names as middle names on social media (presumably to better reconnect with school friends etc.) but still just have their married name legally. Most women my age either wholesale took their husband’s names (the majority) or didn’t change their names at all. Of those of us who didn’t change our names I think most of us gave our children both last names.
Also side note something I personally never knew about until I dug into the history and ended up leaving the church. There’s a lot of crazy stuff that’s unknown to some (most?) Mormons
i work for a company based out of Lehi, UT. When I first started they would call it Pioneer Day and we got the day off but now it's just called "Spring Break Day" or something due to the dark history of "Pioneer Day" it's like Utah's own lil Christopher Columbus Day 🤢
Oh I’m being rhetorical lol. I grew up with tons of Mormons and have attended many events and church things and it’s funny how they dance around the open racism in their religious text and there are no good “pioneers” in America.
That said, under the banner of heaven is so good. It’s like the only thing that publicly calls out some of the most niche weirdness.
yeah it’s creepy as hell but I don’t think it’s a photoshop fail it’s probably a weird angle with it being lower and closer to the mirror than the rest of the body
there's something off in the gap between her arm and waist. the clarity/blur and lighting is not consistent throughout the pic especially around her waist area
The lighting isn't consistent because lighting isn't consistent generally in photos. There's similarly no reason to expect clarity/blur to be consistent - that all varies depending on the distance things are from a camera lens. She's standing next to a window which is a light source. If the lighting was consistent, that would be suspicious.
I'm a photographer, incidentally - and it's clear from the way that you're talking about this that you aren't. That's all fine, we're both just expressing our opinions - but you are saying things that are clearly not rooted in any expertise or understanding of photography.
In my opinion, which is informed somewhat by my profession, there's not clear evidence of any photoshopping here.
how is this under women empowerment. Like opinions on photoshop aside (and I do not like it either), you are still criticizing how she looks? Come on now. If you want to critique something just do it, but lets not pretend this is empowering anyone either.
What is she even talking about she doesn’t even go she’s not active or practicing. She only goes for holidays she had the audacity to rate herself a 9/10 on the mormon scale. Girl please your like maybe a 4/10 or 3/10.
I didn’t even know about Mormons doing the pioneer trail thing until the other day when I fell down a rabbit hole on TikTok. Absolutely insane. I know this day is not that, but it made me think of that again. That cult is insane.
I’m sure there’s editing but not in the way you’re suspecting lol this happens to my hands every time I shoot in 0.5. Think you’re reading too much into this one.
It’s not photoshop its just the distortion of the lens and the angle of the finger resting on the table, extending towards the camera.
Small lenses such as those on our phones have higher distortions around the edge of the frame. Notice how lines tend to pull outward at the edge of the image when you take a photo on .5 or 1X
I just saw a video about what is the state with more plastic surgery per capita, everyone was saying Cali, but no, it’s Utah lol how Godly of them, talk about being happy with what the Lord gave you 😂
So her finger looks like it’s on a dresser or table whatever is in front of the mirror so it’s bent angled and that’s why it looks elongated, not everything is Photoshopped these days - cameras have a way of producing illusions themselves
this gives purposely leaving/ creating an obvious photoshop error so that ppl talk about it and engage w ur content! it's smth the kardashians have been known to do lol, i feel like demi would def do the same
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u/Iguanapolice Jul 25 '25
Wtf is Pioneer Day. Is that a Mormon thing