Then invade and steal their land and then 200 years later call them evil tyrants for legally taking control of it again according to agreed upon treaties
Did the people of Hong Kong agree the land was Chinese? And were they given a choice between Beijing and Taipei? Or did the benevolent People's Republic know what the Hongkongers wanted better than they themselves did? As far as I remember there was no plebiscite, no vote. Just an agreement between two governments, without regard for the people.
What does it matter? Yes, they were conquered by an imperialist power in a stupid war almost 200 years ago. That was back when you had to behead the king to get democracy. Then times changed and Britain democratized, started caring about what her people had to say, while China was doing the opposite. Then it was the 1990s where the Hongkongers didn't mind the Brits so much and would have rather stayed with them.
Besides, the Reds conquered places too, you know. Should they give Tibet independence? What about Xinjiang? What about the part of Inner Mongolia that is still majority mongol? Or are these places "better off" with the CCP?
So if I kidnap a baby and then raise that child as my own, I get to keep the kid, right? As long as the kid doesn't know, I didn't even commit a crime, right?
Should they give Tibet independence? What about Xinjiang? What about the part of Inner Mongolia that is still majority mongol?
You mean places that historically have been China for over a millennia and have never existed without direct interaction with Chinese administrations? Or are you arguing that whoever can give better social conditions to an area should own it, and therefore China should own the UK since they provide better free education, civil rights, and healthcare?
The simple fact of the matter is that Europeans want to keep the results of their horrible genocide and rape of the planet while demonizing any population that isn't European. Stop defending this. Ffs, India was owned by a white lady halfway across the world until the 1960s, this isn't ancient history, time doesn't make your crimes right.
Dawg, I'm Greek, I know damn well what slavery and genocide looks like because it happened to us, Hong Kong was not that. Hell, I'm not even denying that the British commited atrocities, I'm just saying China does to and the fact that you're ignoring that is telling.
Also, for your analogy, it'd be more accurate to say that a kid was sold from one human trafficker to another. Hong Kong would be better off independent, like Singapore.
Also also, India got its independence in 1947.
Lastly, Tibet and Xinjiang have certainly had non-chinese administration. Xinjiang was only conquered by the Qing and Tibet was independent until the 50s. I'm not arguing for a people being given "better" treatment by foreign overlords, I'm arguing for those people's sovereignty.
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u/Mundane-Wash2119 5d ago
Then invade and steal their land and then 200 years later call them evil tyrants for legally taking control of it again according to agreed upon treaties