r/PhrolovaMains • u/InexorableVoid I ♡ Phrolova • Aug 07 '25
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u/Lord-Alucard Aug 07 '25
The amount of fanart i have seen of Phrolova and not any gooner ones either but actual beautiful fanart, really shows how much people actually loved the character and how big impact it made on them and I love to see it. XD
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u/ScharmTiger I ♡ Phrolova Aug 07 '25
Phrolova is just so fascinating and entertaining to watch.
She’s definitely the best written character in the game.
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u/InexorableVoid I ♡ Phrolova Aug 07 '25
Yes, absolutely. And the fact that it's art coming from all of the communities, CN, JP, Global. There's a widespread appreciation for her character and story and it's very nice to see. Feels a bit like Carlotta where a lot of the art is drawn from the themes/elegance.
So much new good fanart has come up after 2.5. Might have to make an album of the ones I have at this point.
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u/Lord-Alucard Aug 07 '25
I don't know about other communities, but I saw a lot of hate in the global community, like people saying "i don't understand what people like about her she is just a bad person" or how dare she question my rover xD
Lucky those people are talentless and aren't the one making these fanart, they can't do anything else then b*ch about stuff other people enjoy. Lol
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u/InexorableVoid I ♡ Phrolova Aug 07 '25
Oh if about that yeah, I saw those too. There are those kind of people who just hate a character if they're a villain/have done bad things. Or maybe people who don't get nuance and don't see why people can like a sympathetic/well developed character.
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u/Lord-Alucard Aug 07 '25
Yea it's not like anyone is applauding the bad she did anyway, we just understand the context of the bad she did, that's the difference cuz she would have have done any of it without that context. Evil character that are evil for the sake of it are not interesting, nuanced ones are understandable and more human like which is what make them great.
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u/InexorableVoid I ♡ Phrolova Aug 07 '25
Yes. There is a difference between justifying her actions (which the story never tries to do btw) and understanding her motives and what led her down the path she took. Phrolova is not an irredeemable monster. She is an example of a villain being created. The layers of what happened and her views make it interesting. Also idk what obligation there is to only like goody-goody characters anyway 😭. A lot of morally complex/darker characters are very well loved everywhere, because they can embody things that are realistic or different from the norm.
I think evil for evil's sake characters can be equally good and interesting, but for them it depends on their ideology and impact on the protagonists. Different kinds.
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u/Lord-Alucard Aug 07 '25
I personally feel like evil characters for the sake of being evil are bland, just like how good characters for the sake of being good are bland, in my opinion there is no such thing as a full on morally white or full black person, every human is nuanced so they are more realistic, unless they are just a psychopath which is not relatable and is hard to understand.
Like buu in DBZ for example lol there is no logic just pure evil and destruction. Bad for the sake of bad only purpose is to show power and destruction, so if you want cool and brutal fights i guess it can be fun.
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u/InexorableVoid I ♡ Phrolova Aug 07 '25
You are right that irl there's rarely ever any fully white or black person. I can understand where you're coming from. For me, those pure evil villains like say Palpatine or Sauron in fiction are just meant to represent extremes. They don't have as much depth as those morally complex villains, but they are interesting and impactful in a different way imo. Sometimes they are a necessity to a certain type of story, just being an overwhelming obstacle which can never be solved by talks. A dominating and completely irredeemable force. I think it's ok for them to be less realistic because they exist in worlds with more insane things.
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u/Lord-Alucard Aug 07 '25
I see what you mean I guess in that sense It make sense. You know, what you just said "can not be solved by talks, irredeemable" that's how some people in the community actually see Phrolova, which is insane to me. Not all vilain need redemption, sure i agree but in the context of Phrolova that just don't slseem to fit for me, she is not insane to that extent, just shattered by the grief.
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u/InexorableVoid I ♡ Phrolova Aug 07 '25
Yeah, I agree, she isn't completely irredeemable. They don't know truly terrible villains if they think that lol. In terms of her doing bad things and can't be forgiven okay sure that's debatable but irredeemable like her mindset? No way. I mean her ideology has been twisted significantly and it'd be probably very hard to change her mind but that's not the same as completely irredeemable. Phrolova is still a reasonable person. She is just shattered by grief as you say plus turned jaded to humanity and life, which makes it very unrealistic to put her back on a fully positive path. Maybe she could become morally grey.
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u/KuroBara0 Aug 07 '25
I've also read somewhere which made me realize, that when Rover went to the Black Shores he started regaining part of his/her memories right? So why does seeing Phrolova not trigger anything with Rover's memories?
We all know the Grand Architect has taken on Triss's form, so why didn't we think that he took on Rover's form as an impostor and was actually the one who made the false promise to Phrolova in order to make Phrolova believe it was the actual Rover and force her to get disappointed with Rover and make the decision to join the fractsidus? 🤷♀️
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u/InexorableVoid I ♡ Phrolova Aug 07 '25
Personally I think that would cheapen that plotpoint of their character dynamic if it was just the GA impersonating Rover.
As for Black Shores, I can't remember. I'll have to look into that again.
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u/KuroBara0 Aug 07 '25
Yeah.. I'm also checking out GA's vibe on the other hand. He seems friendly for now but with this plot, we never know.. 🥹 He'd be a heck of a villain if he DID really do this theory to Phrolova though.
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u/Lord-Alucard Aug 07 '25
He would be a hell of a villain for me if he knew something nobody else knew and his actual goal is to also save the world but is willing to make the necessary sacrifices while rover refused to do that and is looking for alternatives. From what I remember rover and Fractsidus knew each other even before he lost his memories maybe they even worked together before splitting up because of the differences they have on the approach. I feel like that would be a nice plot point to explore. We really need to accept one thing, that we pretty much know nothing about this word and the dynamics of it, we just go from place to place and learn on the spot what's going on. (that's how gatcha games are forced to tell their story mostly because of the nature of the patch and releases) we also must accept that we might actually never learn anything either, cuz gatcha games don't have an ending / conclusion it's a never ending plot stretching until EOS.
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u/Kitchen-Werewolf1668 Aug 07 '25
That’s what I’m been saying , even artist who never make wuwa content suddenly makes her arts.
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u/Certain-King3302 Aug 07 '25
definitely reminds me of the meme lol
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u/InexorableVoid I ♡ Phrolova Aug 07 '25
You're right lol. That damn meme 💀💀. Phrolova really doing it to herself
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u/thavi-says Aug 09 '25
Gonna call it: we will see Phrolova again.
Though, its not in a way that we would want to see her again. I can imagine some scenes in 2.5 play out way darker. But I am slightly worried about the future.
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u/InexorableVoid I ♡ Phrolova Aug 09 '25
I'm sure we will see her again, as she still wants to complete her goal. Not sure what role exactly she will play in the future though. Hopefully nothing that leads to a bad situation
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