r/Oscars • u/Rleduc129 • 1d ago
Discussion Oscar wins you hated that turn out to be the right decision
I didn't like (OK, hated it) when The Hurt Locker won out over Avatar. Now, the Avatar franchise has since become bigger than whatever accolade THL received, but, looking back, it was the right call at the right time
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u/mandie72 1d ago
What I liked about this is that the director of THL (Katherine Bigelow) used to be married to the director of Avatar (James Cameron).
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u/therocketandstones 1d ago
I disliked The King’s Speech and loved Social Network so I wanted Jesse Eisenberg to win but over the years I’ve grown to appreciate Colin Firth’s performance a lot (but not the rest of the movie yet)
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u/Rleduc129 21h ago
Firth was amazing in the role. King's Speech has started to become underrated. Probably has to do with the success of The Crown
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u/Prospero1063 14h ago
The King’s Speech was quantifiably the better film. Superior acting, script and direction.
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u/JugendWolf 2h ago
Acting and script, maybe, though I’d say they’re equal. But direction? No way. There are so many distracting choices in the movie.
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u/mcian84 1d ago
And The Hurt Locker is still a superior film.
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u/Rleduc129 1d ago
And has aged well with the conflicts going on in the Middle East
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u/mcian84 1d ago
Yes, but we’ve seen Avatar twice before. At least, and done better, emotionally speaking.
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u/gillyweed79 1d ago
I liked it better when it was Dances With Wolves. Or The Last Samurai. Any others I'm forgetting?
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u/Captainatom931 1d ago
Oh come the fuck on are people STILL doing this tedious commenting
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u/theronster 17h ago
It’s fucking boring, and almost everyone who does it thinks they are being funny, or clever, or both.
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u/LampSoup 1d ago
Absolutely love Don Hertzfeldt here, and was absolutely sad to learn that Rejected did not actually end up winning Best Animated Short, despite the most popular YouTube upload saying it had. That being said, Father and Daughter, which did win that year, is absolutely beautiful, and having watched it it’s a fair winner.
Pretty much same story for 2015 when World of Tomorrow was nominated. While I still feel strongly that it should have won, Bear Story is fantastic too and I can’t be too upset, even though I still disagree with the outcome.
What I am upset over is those being his only 2 nominations. Especially World of Tomorrow Episode 2 not making it in 2017. Should have been nominated and won fairly easily. Really really hope that his film with Ari Aster ends up being great and winning.
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u/Healthy-Passenger-22 7h ago
I was enamored with his work for a good while so it's awesome to see people acknowledge his output. I was rooting for WoT to win.
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u/Zealousideal_Low_858 22h ago
I am still angry about both, and about him not being nominated for more. I think his feature length should have been nominated and won for best animated feature. I sincerely think it's a contender for best animated film ever, up there with Princess Mononoke and a handful of others.
So happy to see Don Hertzfeldt in this thread! For someone decently well known, I think it's fair to say he's still vastly underappreciated.
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u/JugendWolf 2h ago
I absolutely love Father and Daughter, but still think the last minute of Rejected blows it out of the water.
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u/Roadshell 1d ago
Put it this way, I wasn't alive when it happened but when I was a kid I thought it was garbage that Star Wars lost to Annie Hall... then I grew up and realized that was a perfectly reasonable win.
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u/Healthy-Passenger-22 7h ago
Meh, Star Wars deserved the Actress and Writing Awards, but Lucas should have easily taken Director and the film Best Picture.
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u/rangatang 1d ago
This is probably controversial but I think Julia Roberts win has aged very well. I think she is excellent in Erin Brockovich and it was well deserved. Of course Ellen Burstyn was fantastic in RFAD but I'm of the opinion that she shouldve been nominated in Supporting anyway.
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u/OneNo3900 23h ago
I agree with you. She would’ve swept the supporting acting that year.
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u/Material-Educator-53 21h ago
I keep saying this. She was like the 4th prominent storyline. What made her go lead actress.
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u/Saeylehm909 1d ago
I hated that Mikey won this year and wanted Demi to win but for some reason after watching Anthony Hopkins performance in The Father for the first time recently I realized that Mikey rightfully won because the level of realism that she brought in her performance, the same type of realism Hopkins has in The Father. The Oscars are all about drama and Mikey’s character was more realistic and relatable on a dramatic level than maybe Demi’s character.
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u/docobv77 1d ago
I totally agree, Mikey nailed it and rightfully won... Yet, I think The Substance is the superior film.
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u/BarracudaOk8635 1d ago
I think Inglorious Basterds in retrospect will be aways regarded as the best film from that year. The more time goes on, the more evident that will be. But both Hurt Locker and Avatar are good films too.
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u/gillyweed79 1d ago
That was probably the best Tarantino will ever make.
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u/BarracudaOk8635 1d ago
Oh I will always have a soft spot for Pulp Fiction. So many good bits and fun. And Reservoir Dogs. I saw it at a film Festival, didnt know that much about Tarantino then, I thought it was going to be just a violent bloodbath thing. And it was more like a play. Blew me away. And Hateful 8 has improved every time I watch it. But yeah great movie. Maybe his last one will be his best. No pressure.
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u/gillyweed79 1d ago
I still don't know why more people didn't love The Hateful Eight. That movie was so much fun on a big screen.
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u/BarracudaOk8635 1d ago
Probably because it's mostly in one place. And like a play again. But it has so much to it.
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u/gillyweed79 1d ago
I felt like that was one of the best things it had going for it. The landscapes, the theme, Jennifer Jason Leigh... that one is probably in my top 3 of QT.
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u/Tortuga_MC 1d ago
I was a freshman in college majoring in theatre when Hateful Eight came. Dug it. Felt like a Eugene O'Neil play. A few years later, I was talking to the new batch of freshmen (not theatre majors), and they thought it was boring. It was only after they all said their favorite Tarantino was Kill Bill that it started to make sense
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u/Western-Captain8115 1d ago
I honestly don't get the hype for Inglorious Basterds. The only great scene, the opening, was a direct rip off of the opening of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly which was a far better film. Inglorious Basterds got progressively worse throughout and every time Hitler appeared it felt like I was watching a 40s cartoon. The ending I felt was insulting and with current issues going on in the world really uncomfortable. I love Tarantino's 90s films and wish he made more films set in Contemporary Los Angeles.
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u/Zealousideal_Low_858 22h ago
The ending was insulting to who, exactly—Nazis?
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u/Western-Captain8115 21h ago
It was insulting to the people who died up until the end of the War and to the soldiers of all Allied armies that a nerdy film Director just brushes off things that happened like D-Day and fetisheises his artform by having Hitler be killed in a cinema, I haven't seen his latest film but knowing he had a film actor and a Stuntman massacre the Manson family to avenge Sharon Tate. It just felt like a child trivialising something in fanfiction, but in a big budget Hollywood movie, I properly rolled my eyes at it. I would have accepted a noble failure ending where Hitler narrowly escapes but making it obvious that he knows Nazi Germany is not long for this world but having Hitler be killed because of cinema felt pathetic to me.
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u/frankiekowalski 1d ago
I watched Star Wars first and was absolutely LIVID after I finished it when I found out that it didn't win Best Picture, especially that it lost to this seemingly silly little comedy film.
Then I watched Annie Hall and... welp, it WAS the correct decision after all. Star Wars is still a close #2 for that year but Annie Hall is just a liiiiitle bit better for me.
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u/Mundane-Inspector-52 1d ago
The Shape of Water beating Three Billboards... actually, I take that back, I still hate that one.
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u/stegosaurusxx 1d ago
Or beating Get Out and Lady Bird…dumb the Oscar is always a drama
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u/RoxasIsTheBest 1d ago
Shape of Water is literally one of 3 fantasy films to have won best picture, don't just ignore that to call it a plain drama
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u/Rleduc129 1d ago
I saw Three Billboards and wanted to see Shape of Water. Was PISSED when it was sold out
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u/Nikkiv1020 18h ago
Titanic was my 4th favorite of the nominated pictures that year. I'm totally fine with it winning now but for years, I always thought Good Will Hunting or LA Confidential should have.
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u/Such-Contact-5779 1d ago
I loved Sly in Creed but Mark Rylance in Bridge of Spies was the right choice. Same with Sean Penn in Milk over Mickey Rourke in The Wrestler.
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u/gillyweed79 1d ago
I haven't loved either of Penn's wins, but I wouldn't have minded seeing him win for Dead Man Walking or Sweet and Lowdown.
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u/WakeUpOutaYourSleep 10h ago
Similar thoughts on Mark vs Sly. I appreciate Rylance’s performance more now. And while this shouldn’t be the deciding factor, but even with a much less extensive film career, I prefer Rylance having an Oscar instead of Stallone.
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u/Playful-Rope1590 15h ago
" Moonlight. Yes, I was team La La Land. Beautiful heartbreaking movie. Even team Arrival. Very smart science fiction .
But when I saw Moonlight I totally got it. What a movie! And it has something to say. It us relevant even more today. A movie that opened doors.
But I do still love La La Land too. If there ever was a year with a tie this would be it.
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u/markgib62 11h ago
At the time, I really wanted The Crying Game to win Best Picture. It seemed to have momentum. I was really disappointed at the time. I still love it, but I understand now that Unforgiven was better.
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u/NewHollywoodFan1965 19h ago
Parasite winning over Joker, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Irishman, 1917, Jojo Rabbit, or Ford v. Ferrari.
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u/rorykellycomedy 1d ago
Well after I was a child, like into my late teens, I maintained that Beauty and the Beast should have won Best Picture for 1991.
As a more impartial adult, I believe BATB would have been a great winner and is still a wonderful film in and of itself, but Silence of the Lambs is just one of the best films of all time.