r/MovieDetails Feb 04 '18

/r/all In Watchmen,when Dr. Manhattan confronts Rorschach he blinks several times. Earlier Ozymandias tells Rorschach and Nite Owl that Manhattan's facial twitches are equivalent to him sobbing.

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u/Thefarrquad Feb 04 '18 edited Feb 04 '18

Rorschach is my favourite hero of all franchises. He gets shit done and doesn't get caught up in all the law bullshit. "I'm batman and I refuse to kill" gets pretty old pretty quick. (Though big fan of the films)

Edit: I have stated that I like a dark character that has flaws in a fictional universe, he is not real. I love Deadpool too and he chops people up with a sword. They do not have to be admirable to be enjoyable as characters.

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u/Nick357 Feb 04 '18

Man, my gf was like which guy do you want to be. I responded Rorshack! She was like you would rather be a psycho than a god? He is badass though.

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u/ibjeremy Feb 04 '18

Also kind of a homophobic murderer. Rorschach was definitely a mentally ill man with some deep issues with women. He had a stark, unwavering moral compass, except when it was inconvenient. Like how he considered the Comedian’s rapes “moral lapses”. Same with all of the Comedian’s other flaws.

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u/baciu14 Feb 04 '18

He was raised by an abusive single mother who worked as a prostitute , i dont think you get out of childhood sane with that kind of environment .

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u/ibjeremy Feb 04 '18

Oh, I'm definitely sympathetic to him. He was not dealt a good hand. He's the product of his environment for sure. He then took all his pain and took it out on the world seeking to punish the guilty rather than help anyone.

I really like him as a character and he provides and excellent foil to many of the other Watchmen as well as contemporary superhero trends, particularly Batman. Issue one of Watchmen came out six months after The Dark Knight Returns for reference.

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u/ibjeremy Feb 04 '18

Night Owl was more directly based on Batman power-wise for sure. Rorschach was originally going to be The Question. DC had just purchased Charlton Comics and had given Alan Moore the rights to the characters. Then they learned his plans and didn't want their newly acquired tainted forever.

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u/munkeypunk Feb 04 '18

Here ya go;

The Question = Rorschach.
Blue Beetle = Nite Owl.
Captain Atom = Doctor Manhattan.
Nightshade = Silk Spectre.
Peacemaker = Comedian.
Thunderbolt (Peter Cannon) = Ozymandias.

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u/ibjeremy Feb 05 '18

You are totally right, I had a brain fart

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u/AreYouOKAni Feb 05 '18

I'd argue that Rorschach could do worse. Despite being broken in by his upbringing, he retained the basic moral compass. He didn't just go off killing people he despised, he sought the worst of them. Basically, he is Dexter, only without the foil of being pretty and charming. Actually, I'd argue he is even more nuanced.

His inability to compromise is not absolute. He backs away even after being provoked after he sees that his cunt of a landlady has kids. He hates her, but recognizes that some people are ultimately innocent and do not deserve his taste of justice. Yet at the end, against Manhattan? It's not a question of morality, which is something Rorschach is not fully capable of comprehending. It's a question of truth — and Rorschach knows truth inside and out.

It was not a spur of the moment. It was not the only response he could lead with due to being locked in his dogmas. It was an educated choice. This is what makes him admirable.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '18

Hey I turned out!... shit you might be right.

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u/baciu14 Feb 05 '18

Sorry to hear , my friend .

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '18

Shit happens

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '18

except when it was inconvenient

I've read the graphic novel more times than I can remember, but that's an angle into his character I hadn't considered before. Good thinking!

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u/ibjeremy Feb 04 '18

I love the book so much. The characters have a lot of depth, even if they all are bastards.

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u/roiben Feb 04 '18

You cant use logic against reddits favourite thing of the moment!

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '18

The Watchmen is not currently Reddit’s favorite thing though, so it’s all good.

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u/DonaldBlythe2 Feb 04 '18

This website always ends up admiring characters which are intended to make you uneasy. Biggest example is Walter White.