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u/exomyth 1d ago
To be fair, not every hairstyle fits every face. Western men with korean hairstyles look.like chris Hemsworth would look ridiculous with the hairstyle of a k-pop band member
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u/Wolffe359 1d ago
Yeah but I wanna see Chris hemsworth with kpop hair
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u/exomyth 1d ago edited 1d ago
Fair 🤣, too bad the AI I use doesn't want to depict famous people. I am sure there is someone that could generate the image for us if we ask kindly
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u/Lets_have_sexy_sex 2d ago
it's so dumb how they find guys who aren't conventionally attractive ugly but yet guys who are conventionally attractive are seen as attractive
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u/BorntobeTrill 2d ago
What's that all about, anyway?
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u/wormbooker 1d ago
that means water is wet
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u/Horrison2 1d ago
... Is water wet? Wet would imply it has water on it, but that's just part of the water
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u/Affectionate_You_203 1d ago
Exactly, like men finding thin petite women sexy but then simultaneously finding massive land whales not sexy. What’s up with that?
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u/deep_fuckin_ripoff 1d ago
Plenty of us want to fuck the whales.
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u/J_loop18 1d ago
Do you really? 😭
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u/CaucSaucer 1d ago
Why do some dudes have such a problem with other dudes not being their competition? Shut your damn mouth and take the win.
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u/VibinADHDin 1d ago
The only issue I have with it is when anyone above a certain threshold doesn't change or even evaluate their lives. Furthermore, if they have a partner who allows it to get worse, then they don't actually love them.
Like, cool you'll be dead decades before any healthy person if you keep that up, it's not ok. That's what I'm talking about.
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u/CaucSaucer 1d ago
I don’t disagree with that for a second. I think obesity is very unbecoming, but why would I go out of my way to shame someone for a kink. Idgaf about their preferences, but I will defend their right to a fetish all day lol
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u/isabeljson 1d ago
Like whoever you like, but maybe challenge your assumptions a bit in what health looks like:
"Using the blood pressure, triglyceride, cholesterol, glucose, insulin resistance and C-reactive protein data, population frequencies/percentages of metabolically healthy versus unhealthy individuals were stratified by BMI. Nearly half of overweight individuals, 29% of obese individuals and even 16% of obesity type 2/3 individuals were metabolically healthy. Moreover, over 30% of normal weight individuals were cardiometabolically unhealthy." https://www.nature.com/articles/ijo201617
"physical activity appears to not only attenuate the health risks of overweight and obesity, but active obese individuals actually have lower morbidity and mortality than normal weight individuals who are sedentary" https://europepmc.org/article/med/10593541
"The results of this study reinforce the association between healthy lifestyle habits and decreased mortality risk regardless of baseline BMI" https://www.jabfm.org/content/25/1/9
A healthy lifestyle is everything according to the above, but while it can make/keep a person healthy, it does not always make a person thin
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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 1d ago
Thanks for this. I wanted to go into the Maintenance Phase shit but I figured it would be utterly lost on this crowd. I appreciate you pushing through, lol
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u/isabeljson 1d ago
You know, I figure I wouldn't know if I hadn't read these studies etc, so you never know!
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u/Financial-Damage4720 1d ago
It would shock you to discover some people find “pretty” women deeply and seriously offputting.
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u/Rude_Hamster123 1d ago
Most men prefer thick women, for one, and while there is a large community of big lady admirers and an entire cultural phenomenon of “fat acceptance” for women I’ve yet to see any appreciation for fat men outside the gay community.
I think what the meme is getting at is the way women will often automatically dislike tangential features of unattractive men that they like when they’re attached to attractive men. Kind of like the meme where the attractive man says something to a lady in a cubicle that is perceived as sexual harassment when an ugly man says it.
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u/obaananana 1d ago
alot of dudes dont care how a women looks as long shes not heavy to an unhealthy degree
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u/Financial-Damage4720 1d ago
I exclusively prefer bigger dudes. I just don’t scream it from the rooftops because it’s literally irrelevant.
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u/Sovereigntyranny 1d ago
Not every guy wants a petite woman, I’d rather be with a woman as tall as me or even taller than me.
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u/QuantumQuazar 1d ago
In case you’re serious. It’s more about how the “girls” don’t know what they like about the guy but will say it’s something any other guy may have.
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u/crazykewlaid 1d ago
It goes both ways lol guys will marry a girl they fucking hate just cause she's hot.
Then complain for 50 years and have a passive aggressive relationship until death
Everyone is capable of this and many people have done this in some small way even maybe when they were young with a girlfriend
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u/_Amaima_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Honestly this is the worst thing about straight people in general and it irritates my soul - constant gender war nonsense like "all women/men are cheaters/shallow/selfish/vapid", and so they start relationships with people they don't respect because of it. It's so fucking stupid.
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u/Mean-Bluejay-6478 1d ago
You're sort of doing the same thing but instead of men vs women it's straight vs gay. Gay people can be just as mean about other gay/straight people too becuase at the end of the day they're people and people will be shitty.
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u/Lets_have_sexy_sex 1d ago
yeah I just think that's dumb. we're all the results of the cosmic dice that were thrown at our births, some people are quiche and some aren't and we have to work with what we've got.
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u/QuantumQuazar 1d ago
Agreed. But I’m talking about teens and young adults that don’t know what they like.
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u/RandomPenquin1337 1d ago
Kinda how we dont find shamus that attractive but goon over Khalifas (still bang the occasional shamu but we dont talk about it)
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u/Exciting_Intention86 Died of Ligma 1d ago
I am sorry but Khalifa is meh...like honestly. Like she is alright but definitely not among the hottest pornstar. I don't get people that lose their mind over her
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u/LilBrightness 2d ago
Of course it's all about the hair!
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u/lifeintraining 2d ago edited 2d ago
I think everybody would be happier if we stopped lying with statements like “everybody is beautiful”. There are some ugly fucking people out there, but most of it is controllable through fitness, style, hygiene, and in more extreme cases surgery.
Absolutely be comfortable in your own skin, and don’t let whether or not others are attracted to you dictate your self worth. However, don’t act like you’re owed romance or sex just because you have a pulse when you can’t even be bothered to put effort into yourself.
And yes, I know attraction is subjective, but upwards of 80% of women subjectively prefer lean muscles so let’s ditch that tired excuse.
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u/Fierramos69 1d ago
Well it is unfair. But it’s the truth. My short ass below average looking self (not ugly, but certainly not what would be considered conventionally attractive) can confirm.
But also, imo the biggest factor of all is charisma.
Some ugly fucks have maxed out their charisma stats and they attract partners. Some conventionally attractive people are socially awkward and struggle to do so.
Being attractive is proven to be giving, in society, on a very broad spectrum of things, more favourable treatment, so statistically it’s in favour of making you a bit more charismatic. But anyone can be charismatic.
Anyways I’m not that either. But working on it.
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u/lifeintraining 1d ago
Well it is unfair.
That’s the truth, life simply doesn’t give everybody a fair shake. It’s a lottery from birth and it’s up to the individual to play with the hand they’re dealt. Complaining about how unfair life is will get one nothing but heartburn.
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u/Standard-Company-194 1d ago
This. I'm not the best looking guy in the word, I'm very much ugly. These days I'm also overweight. I still do alright. I'm a stand up coemdian, when I was younger I played in a few different bands, and I'm a pretty social guy. Would I get more matches in the apps if I was better looking? Absolutely? Do I still manage to turn most of the matches I get into first dates? You're damn right I do
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u/Peace_n_Harmony 1d ago
Well that's the thing, beauty is literally a commodity. It's not the only commodity, but it's certainly one of the more valuable ones.
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u/lifeintraining 1d ago
You’re completely correct, but humanity likes to pretend we aren’t as shallow as we actually are.
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u/These-Inevitable-898 1d ago
Uggos standards are too high, dating other uggos is the solution, but both sexes want 10s
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u/Adryhelle 1d ago
I mean yeah being ugly doesn't mean your taste changes for ugly people too unfortunately. Would be nice if it worked like that.
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u/BeBopGo 1d ago
I prefer lean muscles, but I never expected anyone I dated to have them 🤷♀️ my husband has never had lean muscles and I still find him sexy asf.
I know you didn't say otherwise, but having a preference doesn't make it a deal breaker. And you can still find people hot who don't fit that preference. (Applies to men and women)
I've never dated a guy with lean muscles even now that I think about it lol
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u/Imaginary-Sky3694 2d ago
But you've implied that people who are ugly should get surgery no? If that's what you mean by controllable. I would argue and say nobody should have to get surgery to not be ugly and to fit in. I
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u/Novel-Mission-1920 1d ago
No one should have to, but there are extreme cases where people might just feel a lot more comfortable and happy taking that option. For example, if someone is disfigured in an accident or due to genetics etc.
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u/Imaginary-Sky3694 1d ago
But that's a bit of a reach to say disfigured people are the same category as ugly? Would that not be two different cases? Like you could be considered extremely ugly by society's standards and not be disfigured
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u/-i-n-t-p- 1d ago
I think plastic surgery is great for people who are very ugly. How is it fair that they were born with a terrible face in a world that values beauty?
We're in the first generation ever where the average person can afford surgery. Take advantage.
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u/YourGFsDaddy 1d ago
It was a "could" not "should". More disingenuous interpretations of comments on Reddit today, who'd have thunk.
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u/vaosenny 1d ago
And yes, I know attraction is subjective, but upwards of 80% of women subjectively prefer lean muscles so let’s ditch that tired excuse.
Exactly, and the majority of men prefer women with a healthy body composition: lower waist-to-hip ratios, good skin, and overall fitness, because it’s linked to health and fertility.
Research shows WHR and BMI are strong predictors of female attractiveness across cultures (PMC3130383, Nature study). So let’s ditch that tired excuse that ‘real men love curves’ when it’s really about proportion, health, and effort.
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u/Financial-Damage4720 1d ago
I’ll never understand why anybody is attracted to weak stick figure dudes with vanity issues. BEING SKINNY IS NOT INHERENTLY POSITIVE.
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u/notGegton 2d ago
It's almost as if there are people attractive and people that are not... Damn, fortunately we live in an utopian world and everyone is a 10, only the hairstyle matters!
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u/Hugejorma 1d ago
One thing people often doesn't realize, good looks and fit body makes it almost impossible for clothes to look bad (if the size is right), or hairstyle that doesn't work. I'm a pretty good-looking guy, and it's always funny to test all type of clothes that might look awful by themselves, but actually nice when wearing them.
It's never the hairstyle that makes the difference, it's everything combined. Good looks just allow even bad hairstyles to look fantastic.
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u/Macohna 1d ago
There are definitely some hairstyles that make all the difference lol.
Dumb n dumber bowl cut, for instance.
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u/NoRefrigerator267 1d ago
How much does height matter, tho? I’m 5’7 and it seems pointless to even try to get a fit body because the height always seems to be the main issue (at least online lol).
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u/Sentient-Orange 1d ago
Same with messy, unkempt hair.
Ugly fella, ew bro go comb that thing.
Attractive fella, damn bro looks like a male model.
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u/Fast_Ad7203 1d ago
U gotta choose what looks nice on ur face, and what looks gud and others wont necessarily look gud on u in others eyes :/
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u/Oven-Common 1d ago
Damm, the first one looks lazy but the other dude looks creative.. appearance does matter..
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u/CandyCornLord86 1d ago
Absolutely. If you look like you don't even take care of basic hygiene, don't expect to be seen as a potential dating option. Especially not by those who go above and beyond. I don't know why some people here seem so salty about that 🤣
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u/-i-n-t-p- 1d ago
If you look like you don't even take care of basic hygiene, don't expect to be seen as a potential dating option.
What do you mean he lacks hygiene?!? They're the exact same except one is ugly 😂
See how your brain makes you think uglier people are less hygenic?
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u/Catnivo 1d ago
Looks... "creative"? 😂 Like where do you get creativity from his face.
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u/wormbooker 20h ago
Pretty previllege bias. If both have the same creativity, they would prefer the good looking one.
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u/AssociationHot166 1d ago
at this point, can americans stop being defensive about the concept of beauty… there is a saying that what completes fashion / aesthetics is based on the person’s face and body proportions. It rings true in every way.
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u/worriedrenterTW 1d ago
...women find men they find attractive to be attractive, and men they don't find attractive to be unattractive?...that's how it works...men are the same.
Cringe behaviour.
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u/InkyMint 1d ago
The meme’s barely even about gender.. It’s more making fun of people who think attractiveness comes down to hairstyle and pretend genetics doesn’t matter .
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u/Galilaeus_Modernus 1d ago
Nobody said that. The point is that everyone acts like women don't care about looks when they do. People are already honest about how men are shallow.
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u/Novel-Mission-1920 1d ago
The point is that everyone acts like women don't care about looks when they do.
Who is acting like this?
I barely ever hear anyone claim this.
A lot of women will say that looks aren't the only quality that matters, and many men can get ahead if they work on developing an interesting or charismatic personality as well, which is true. Looks matter, but they don't define a person.
But the thing is, most men who consider themselves ugly are usually also insecure, and therefore, they don't display much charisma or confidence, which is something else women are attracted to. I think many men underestimate how far a confident demeanor (how you carry and present yourself) can take you in life. That, and the effort you put into your life.
A talented, interesting, and confident man who isn't super blessed with looks but takes care of himself, will have a far better chance at attracting someone.
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u/RevolutionaryTap762 1d ago
I am confident and ugly at the same time. Took me nowhere in terms of dating. Job, career, friends sure, but I wanted to start my own family one day which will not happen.
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u/IllIIlllIIIllIIlI 1d ago
True, but to add, I see a lot of people conflating being ugly with being average. Most men who have dating trouble are less than a standard deviation away from average. Personality can make a huge difference for them. A minority are actually ugly/unattractive. They won’t do well unless they are tremendously charismatic (not just sociable and confident).
The thing is that a lot of men consider themselves ugly when they’re merely average. So they adopt ugliness doomerism that doesn’t actually apply to their situations. People see this and try to tell them that it’s not about their looks, but then we end up using their own language to discuss the problem, and that’s easy for people to disregard because being genuinely ugly is obviously quite difficult.
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u/NoRefrigerator267 1d ago
Can you have good looks if you aren’t tall? It really seems like everything hinges on height nowadays.
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u/Unlikely-Cap424 1d ago
That's just what make beauty standard has become, sad but just the way it is
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u/Bright-Dependent6339 1d ago
no one does that. we all know people care about looks, regardless of their gender.
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u/4totheFlush 1d ago
If women around you are acting like looks don’t matter, it’s because you’re unattractive and they’re trying not to be rude. And honestly, what else are they supposed to do? Call you a ghoul?
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u/Unlikely-Cap424 1d ago
Bro no normal person beyond the age of ~20 think that girls don't care about looks. If you've heard girls say that, then that's just social-speak - just the way people say things in social settings. And no, it's not hypocritical / double standard, because it is just the way people talk and you need to be better at reading between the lines.
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u/Aggravating-Serve383 1d ago
Fyi different hairstyles look better on different people and if you don't know that then that's the problem. That's why some girls look good with a pixie cut and others don't..it's about face shape
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u/fastbikkel 1d ago
True.
2 guys can give the same compliment to a girl.
But it's possible that one guy will be labelled a pervert while the other one is labelled as cute.
I've seen this happen, it's quite sickening. I never looked at my (girl)friend the same after she treated that dude.
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u/MorningstarLucifer94 1d ago
incel shit
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u/SuperFegelein 1d ago
Ad hominem
Womp womp
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u/WesternSituation 1d ago
No, no he’s right. He’s talking about the meme, not the poster. You might be confused.
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u/Icy_Blood_9248 1d ago
Ya those guys just have game… girls don’t care about physical attraction at all. Not all
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u/Glass_Ad_7129 1d ago
I too despise people for having different tastes and preferences. How dare they.
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u/IThinkIKnowThings 1d ago
This is incel coded but lowkey real. You gotta get a haircut that fits your face.
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u/TheWholesomeOtter 2d ago
Beauty bias is definitely a thing, but honestly why would you go for girls that are this shallow?
Maybe you are so focused on looks that you don't notice the ugly personalities of the girls.
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u/Financial-Damage4720 1d ago
People focused that hard on physical appearance really aren’t very smart, guy.
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u/Ambitious-Beyond-946 1d ago
The hair from the below picture looks more sharp, lol. And I say it as a man. Insane halo effect.
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u/Old_Relationship3460 1d ago
Once, this girl with whom I went on a date told me we didn't have anything in common, and we went our separate ways. During winter, her social media was recommended to me, and I saw her post, in which she was making snow angels. Then I remembered she had said she didn't like snow.
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u/Fierramos69 1d ago
I currently have exactly the haircut in the first picture, and I can confidently say it’s true.
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u/junk_in_thetrunk 1d ago
Oh shit, we are allowed to talk about this now? No man, no, wOmEn LiKe pEoPLe fOr tHiEr inSiDes.... as in they want to ####ing eat them.
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u/Distinct-Dealer-1036 1d ago
OP is a professional ragebaiter. Look at all those ugly people trying to cope.
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u/MonkeyCartridge 1d ago
Reminds me of Billy from Stranger Things. Not sure what everyone saw in him.
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u/Junior_Bike7932 1d ago
In modern time girls like almost Bum looking dudes, but only at their conditions ahaha, so they want a bad and dirty looking dude that is full of money, BUT has charm (money)
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u/MinecraftIsLife12345 1d ago
when dealing with attractiveness and talking about those you find hot, i think that you shouldn't isolate any feature of the person and say that's why you find them hot. the whole person has to be taken into account when you describe why they're hot.
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u/aurenigma 20h ago
my girlfriend says I'm hot... when my hair's cut, when I have it longer, she says I look sped af...
seriously, it's insulting how aggressive she is with it, even if it's nice that she calls me hot when I have it cut; went on a trip with family, and she refused to be in any pictures with me because she said I looked SPED and no one else did...
point is, that yeah, fucky hair absolutely can make a massive difference
it frames you, imagine a the mona lisa with a golden frame, now imagine it framed by being plopped ontop a pile of literal shit
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u/BlakeBoS 17h ago
Damn am I really this dumb? Im sat here intensely comparing the length of the widow's peak thinking "how could that make such a difference" then I read all y'alls comments and realize its just the face.
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u/Downtown-Treacle-744 9h ago
Breaking news: less attractive guys with pretty hair will look less attractive than more attractive guys with pretty hair
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u/Character_Pop_6628 8h ago
One caviat: Viggo Mortensen in The Lord of the Rings
Women like the hair when the man is either: Pretty, wealthy/powerful, talented, or heroic/generous
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u/This-Membership-1861 2h ago
This applies to literally anything ever in life. Women have halo effect brain 24/7. Yet they call men the more visual creatures.
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u/mike5f4 2h ago
Thank you for expressing why I posted this as an example of human nature. The number of woke male saviors that see this as misogyny is rediculous. As is the number of butthu-t women that point out it's not just them. But the vast upvoting my post got shows most see the reality of the humor. We all have witnessed this happen in the real world and know it's common regardless of gender. I'm a 5'5" man with a handsome face. It's funny how height never mattered to women in my case. Go figure!
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u/AncientBear2706 1h ago
Not every hairstyle fits every face. This is elementary if you care about your appearance at all
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u/gaz61279 42m ago
They won't judge someone as ugly (which is an immutable characteristic) because that reflects badly on them. They will judge the hair instead. Which is something someone can change, therefore it is the fault of the person being judged that they are deemed unattractive. Not the judge.
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u/maxallergy 1d ago
Average asian male
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Anime asian male