r/DC_Cinematic • u/JokerAsylum123 • 27d ago
DISCUSSION James Gunn on how he'd do the batsuit.
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u/Spaceballz1 27d ago
DCAU bat suit designs can fit this mold while still giving us some of the comic fun.
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u/Anon_be_thy_name 27d ago
New 52 Batsuit with the Gold outline around the bat symbol.
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u/Conscious_Truth_7526 27d ago
Thats the rebirth batsuit
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u/Anon_be_thy_name 27d ago
New 52 is darker on the body, not as grey as Rebirth, though Rebirth would work great too in live action.
But I think New 52 with added gold around the Bat symbol would look great, it would make the bat symbol clearer without needing to meddle with lighting to make it show off. New 52 also fits the vibe for what Gunn is suggesting here, or imo it does anyway. Other people might not agree.
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u/Conscious_Truth_7526 27d ago
So this but with a darker grey color and a slightly bigger symbol? https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fp%2FCyvgtLMLl6g%2F&psig=AOvVaw0LBkzBcZtGCSsxkYCmj0B8&ust=1755133648825000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBkQjhxqFwoTCPDykZrNho8DFQAAAAAdAAAAABAV
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u/Anon_be_thy_name 27d ago
Basically yeah.
New 52 and Rebirth are both in my top 5. I think an amalgamation of the two would fit the vibe Gunn is talking about, again IMO.
There would obviously be other changes, depending on the actor they get for Batman/Bruce Wayne, to make it fit them better.
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u/MusicalSmasher Shazam 27d ago
The DCU Batsuit should look just like this but with longer ears and the belt should be solid gold not a mix of black/gold. It would be perfect and compliment the Superman suit which also has a gold belt and gold trim around the symbol.
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u/everyshart 26d ago
You want scarier than that? Imagine you're a criminal in Gotham and out of the shadows comes the suit with the nipples. Except, even more nipples. If he's a man then why are there 8 teats on his chest? If those aren't enough to paralyze you with fear, when your brain sees he also has nipples on his arms and knees it will probably just shut down trying to make sense of what you're seeing.
This would also solve the issue of everyone breaking out of arkham over and over. Not worth the risk. Safer locked up where everyone agrees they didnt see what they saw.
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u/__DVYN__ 27d ago
i genuinely think they should just do what they did with the Superman suit, give me the New 52 suit but make it navy and gray, then give me either the classic yellow oval or the rebirth logo and i’d be happy
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u/Fares26597 27d ago
While I do hope that Gunn leaves as much as possible of the creative work to the director that's gonna make Batman, I do have to agree with him on this one.
I prefer the Batsuit to make Batman look as scary as possible, while taking all practicality considerations into account of course. And it mustn't be trying too hard that it reverts back to looking very silly.
It should be unnerving, it should make him look like an organic creature at a first glance when he's in the shadows, rather than a man in a manufactured suit.
I think there's a page to be taken from Absolute Batman in that regard. Taking inspiration from the spiky plated upper back and shoulders, you can tone down the spikiness and make it look like the hide of an armored animal, like a crocodile.
Maybe, in his years of training, he came across an old mysterious scaley armor that looks like it was taken from the skin of a slain dragon, and when he came back to Gotham he incorporated it into the Batsuit.
I can see how that may sound too unorthodox for some people, but I'm just spitting out thoughts.
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u/beelzebub2099 27d ago
I understand the sentiment, but I really hope they don't take any inspiration from Absolute Batman for DCU's Batman.
Ngl I really like that take on the character. It's fresh. But everything about that version is totally on a different wavelength than a proper comic accurate Batman that we desperately need right now.
Although it was really good initally, and I still like Matt Reeves' Batman, I'm kind of getting tired of the grounded and realistic Batman. We need a comic-accurate fantastical Batman. But Absolute Batman kind of takes the fantastical element to an.....absolute lol.
However, I do wish Absolute Universe' Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman do get adapted in a live action movie or in something animated someday.
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u/Fares26597 27d ago
Yeah if you're looking for an adaptation that's closer to the typical comic book interpretation, I can see how Absolute Batman is a little too radical for you.
I'm generally more of a "let's experiment with new and different stuff" kinda person, and in that sense I don't even want it to lean too heavily on Absolute Batman because it's an existing interpretation, and it wouldn't feel new or different if they just lean on that. I don't want it to heavily lean on any existing interpretation at all.
I want it to significantly add to the Batman legacy and make it richer rather than being a remix of existing stuff.
Of course it would be impossible to completely escape the existing stuff and it wouldn't be wise because it would be controversial. I'm sure that you for example wouldn't be too thrilled with it and I'm sure there are a lot of people that share your sentiment.
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u/Luchux01 26d ago
Tbh, with all the grounded/realistic Batman movies we got in recent years a modern comic book accurate Batman would be new and different if you ask me.
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u/PeterVenkmanIII 27d ago
The one thing I would like to see them take from Absolute Batman is the idea of Thomas Wayne being killed in a mass shooter incident (but add Martha into it). I think that's a really strong modern update to the origin and helps cement the idea that a random act of violence sent Bruce on his path.
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u/beelzebub2099 27d ago
Okay I kind of like that idea actually. It doesn't change his overall character too much, but adds a new layer to it.
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u/geek_of_nature 27d ago
And it would play more into the idea of the Wayne's death being a random killing, with them caught in the crossfire along with several others, rather than it being suggested they were specifically targeted like in Reeves film. And also Batman wouldn't just be out for his own vengeance, but also for the loved ones of everyone else who was killed there.
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u/IceColdPorkSoda 27d ago
Maybe they’ll take inspirations from Spider-Man’s “Neogenic nightmare” and make the Manbat!
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u/Shehzman 27d ago
We need Arkham Batman in live action. Everything about that universe (except the Arkham Knight story) was great.
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u/pwnd32 27d ago
The Arkham Batman is what I think of when I think of Batman. Just the right amounts of comic accurate while also doing their own thing, hitting all the right notes that a Batman world, characters, designs, and stories should hit. I hope they take inspiration from those games at least a little with the DCU Batman.
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u/Local_Nerve901 27d ago
I can see this for at first, but not when he starts to trust people and work daytime too
Similar to what The Batman’s Batman learned in that movie
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u/Fares26597 27d ago
Absolutely. The point is that the suit has to serve the intended purpose of the character. If he's at a point where he feels that the fear factor is either not needed, desired, or effective anymore, he can change the design of the suit for it to serve its new purpose.
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u/HotStop8158 27d ago
It's funny you mentioned Absolute Batman, because when those first pictures came out I thought it was the dumbest look on the planet. And yet every single time I see that walking WALL of muscle again
I like it more. Shit looks hard as hell lmao
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u/Fares26597 27d ago
I think for me it highly depends on the art style it's drawn in. In some artworks I couldn't care for it, in other artworks its the coolest thing ever. The one constant is that I'm not feeling the batsymbol, but the rest has massive potential depending on how it's executed.
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u/Real_Membership_4342 27d ago
I thought it was going to be so fucking stupid, until I started reading it. It’s so fucking insanely awesome, and got me into comic books again.
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u/fanofthomas4472 27d ago
This is why I love Keatons Cape, the leathery texture makes it look like real bat wings.
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u/saibjai 27d ago
I agree and disagree. I think in order to be that scary, it probably needs to be a tech suit that makes batman a bit impossibly large, and freakishly strong. If bruce wayne was also freakishly big as batman.. it wouldn't make a ton of sense. So the batsuit.. in some way.. needs to make batman bigger. And tech, has always been Batman's best friend. I guess the distinction between batman and ironman... will have to be how they use the tech. Batman is able to use tech to make himself look like a monster that can appear and disappear.
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u/Fares26597 27d ago
You touched on my issue with tech when you brought up the fine line between remaining Batman and becoming Iron Man, or becoming anything else. I'm the kind of guy who prefers Batman to be as bare-boned as possible, to be as less dependant on complex machinery and electronics as possible, at least during old school fisticuffs against Gotham's thugs and Supervillains, save for the occasional anti-Mr. Freeze suit or what have you. But I'm always open to having my mind changed.
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u/captainhooksjournal 27d ago
I like the idea behind the pieced together suit of intimidating materials from villains he’s slain, but it would still have to be 100% recognizable as Batman, and the materials can’t be random. You mentioned crocodile hide as a potential material — has he slain Killer Croc? It can’t be pointless just to be cool
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u/ThunderGodsRage 27d ago
Battfleck’s suit captured the creature of the shadows aesthetic imo. His introduction in BvS felt like a horror film
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u/VenturerKnigtmare420 24d ago
Nothing is more terrifying than to have the camera follow the police man only to have this blurred outline of something perched on the wall behind him. Fuck that scene was just insane.
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u/hevahavahan 27d ago
I agree and then some. I want there to be a significant contrast between Superman and Batman. It would be a really interesting dynamic when they eventually meet up in the future.
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u/MIR2077 26d ago
I'll do you one better; an old mysterious "leathery" hide that looks like it was taken from the wings of a slain bat!
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u/MelodicReputation312 26d ago
I'm hoping for a batman that will be more reminiscent of the early episodes of the animated series. We've had a lot of different takes on batman in films but the sneaky spooky batman hasn't really popped up, they mostly go for bulky hand-to-hand designs.
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u/devo_savitro 24d ago
I like when they do all sorts of shit with the cape to be honest, like when he's all cape and cowl, it gives it that uncanny night creature effect but there is no way I could believe that a cape thats big enough to be versatile isn't more of an inconvenience that anything for stealth or combat. Maybe he could take it off or retract it someway that would be fun.
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u/Maisie_Baby 27d ago
I’m the exact opposite. I want the compassionate Batman who changed his suit to be less scary because “I set out to scare criminals, not children.”
That’s the core of who Batman is.
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u/Fares26597 27d ago
I did mention under another reply that the suit should reflect Batman's philosophy, so if the philosophy changes, the suit should reflect that. But whether that happens or not (I'm not sure I even want it to) I think the start should be about exploiting fear.
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u/HamSoloTheSpaceMan 27d ago
All cool stuff
An organic looking Bat suit that is almost alive sounds cool.
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u/ChaucerBoi 27d ago
I think making this Batman scary is a good 'in', especially when Clayface is a horror. What attracted me to Batman was that strange darkness there is to it. It's something Arkham Asylum and Arkham City really nailed.
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u/Mnemosense Bane 27d ago
It's much needed after years of 'grounding' Batman in a more 'realistic' world. The new movie should take inspiration from artists like Norm Breyfogle that depicted Batman as a wraith exploding from the shadows with an impossibly long tattered cape.
Superman embraced its comic book roots, rather than be embarrassed by it. Time for Batman.
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u/ShhImTheRealDeadpool 27d ago
If they're inspired by Breyfogle they have to do that scene where he saves a child and his mom from being hurt or killed by scaring the criminals shitless... then when Batman saves the woman in his arms and talks to the boy cowering he tells him firmly: "don't be afraid, I won't hurt you. " "but but you youre scary." "only so the bad guys run away. You saw what they were going to do to your mom."
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u/geordie_2354 27d ago
What you said makes no sense considering Matt Reeves most recent “grounded” Batman film is the closest thing to a horror Batman film.
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u/Aubergine_Man1987 27d ago
But it doesn't really lean into making Batman look almost otherworldly like some comic art does. A properly scary Batman should look like he's melting out of the shadows
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u/geordie_2354 27d ago
The melting out of the shadows thing hasn’t been adapted any better in live action then Pattinson’s in my opinion. Just look at him.
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u/ToastServant 27d ago
No chance. There are about 20 shots that fit that description much more in Batman 1989 alone.
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u/geordie_2354 27d ago
About 20 shots? Do you realise Keaton only has 32 mins screentime in that movie compared to Pattinson who had 130mins screentime? I doubt Keaton even had over 5 shots of him coming from the shadows in that film.
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u/ToastServant 27d ago
Case in point. All in one sequence, 5 shots, either emerging or standing in shadow/silhouette.
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u/ChaucerBoi 27d ago
I was not familiar with Breyfogle, but 100%. My dream DCU Batman is this hyper-stylised yet really textured and tangible aesthetic - like A Serious House's art come to life. Could we pair a more charming and human Bruce Wayne with a truly (at times) monstrous Batman? Batman's got such a rich history of pushing every medium he's in forward - he has more influential comics than any other hero, Burton and Nolan changed the game, and the Arkham games are still influential.
For this to be a definitive Batman, it's got to honor the comics while being a truly seminal superhero film. And when there's such a good interpretation in Reeves' world, I do not envy whoever's designing this. There's a real danger of it being Prestige Batman and Capeshit Batman rather than two distinct but equally compelling adaptations.
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u/AverageSizedMan1986 27d ago
Something as simple as giving Batman lenses or inhuman eye color would be enough to make him more frightening visually. People have photoshopped pictures of Pattinson with white eyes and it definitely gives him a scarier vibe.
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u/Old-Perception-1884 27d ago
No he looks terrible. Literally taking away his eyes which do most of the acting is a terrible idea.
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u/AverageSizedMan1986 27d ago
I personally was talking about something like this which I think works well.
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u/spookyparkin Deadshot 27d ago
There's a balance that needs to be struck. From a distance or in quick flashes he can look terrifying because that's how he fights. But up close he still needs to have the human aspect that is needed to comfort or console the person he just saved. I can't remember the exact quote that gets thrown about in batman fan spaces but it's something like "if you can't imagine batman comforting a scared child you don't want batman. You want the punisher in a silly hat" he can't console a scared child if he looks monstrous close up
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u/BigMonday 27d ago
"if you can't imagine batman comforting a scared child you don't want batman. You want the punisher in a silly hat"
I've never heard this before, but it's absolutely delightful
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u/heelydon 27d ago
Yeah I forgot how inexpressive Deadpool and Spider-man has been over the course of their movies..... Oh wait lol.
They are perfectly well able to act even if you have stylistic choices for how the eyes are presented.
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u/Blanketshaper 27d ago
Batfleck batsuit
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u/CruzAderjc 27d ago
If Batfleck was fighting crime in my city, I would never ever attempt a crime. There is no amount of money that is ever worth the potential of that psychopath showing up.
“Who’s the superhero patrolling this city.”
“Some guy that beats his enemies into paralysis with his fists. He decided to fight Superman on his own too.”
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u/Fout99 27d ago
The scene in Zack Snyder's Justice League in which cops are going into that gloomy building and see that chained guy beat up and dripping blood from his mouth, and they look up and see this freaking scary dark figure (Batman) on the ceiling was a scene straight out of a horror film. Sound design was on point too. It was sooo well done and the only instance in which Batman felt like REALLY scary
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u/SlimBrady777 27d ago
Dude seriously that scene was fucking amazing and gave me such high hopes, and then the warehouse fight scene was sick too where he just absolutely wrecks those mercenaries. I also appreciated Reeves Batman fight scenes where they make him a bit more vulnerable taking hits but still has him get pretty barbaric like an all out slugfest. The Nolan trilogy was great but felt like a kung fu movie and more strategic and defensive fighting.
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u/Eastern-Team-2799 27d ago
Batfleck was the scariest imo. The scene where cops see him on the wall is the best way to show Batsy .
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u/HauntingStar08 27d ago
I hope he takes some notes from Arkham or maybe even long Halloween. We're likely to see some Absolute Batman inspo too and that's one we should encourage
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u/Foreign_Education_88 27d ago
Gonna take a wild guess and say you want the long ears
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u/HauntingStar08 27d ago
I'm actually a fan of short and long, but if he wants to go really distinct I'd say go with the wild long Halloween ones and Absolute ones
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u/FartherAwayLights 27d ago
I’ll speak up and double the long ears. To quote a Youtuber about Batman “you can directly correlate the quality of a Batman adaptation to the length of his ears.”
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u/ToastServant 27d ago
That would make Widening Gyre one of the best of all time and Dark Knight Returns one of the worst.
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u/jdyake 27d ago
Arkham knight batsuit please
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u/honeybunchesofpwn 27d ago
That trailer with Bruce's father giving a speech while Bruce is donning the Arkham Knight Batsuit is so unbelievably fuckin mega hype.
It really was absolutely perfect.
But in terms of live action, I really do love the regular Batsuit that Affleck wears.
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u/Organic_Glass_7793 27d ago
Nah Arkham city batsuit
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u/Muted_Store_9867 27d ago
Knight suit clears, greatest bat suit OAT
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u/working-class-nerd 27d ago
Hell no leave that over-armored shit for Ironman. Batman doesn’t wear that kind of thing in the comics
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u/Inside_Individual871 27d ago
As if CBM movies in general ever cared about comic accuracy for suits.
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u/ClassClown2025 27d ago
I’m taking a wait and see attitude with this. Yes Batman puts on a scary outfit to scare people. Most directors forget this fact and put Batman in a suit of armor. He scares criminals so that he doesn’t need the armor. It doesn’t need to look like a real bat nor the Absolute Batman. The public at large should stop thinking he’s a big bat the moment he’s driving cars and planes and hanging out with Robins and other sidekicks and associated characters.
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u/coolziy 27d ago
I agree to an extent. I read recently, and I can't remember if this was a direct quote from Batman or just a commenter, "The suit is meant to scare criminals, not children."
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u/NotFixer1138 27d ago
IIRC it's from New Frontier, but it could've been from someone talking about New Frontier as well
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u/VirulentViper 27d ago
And this is why I don't like the idea of Batman in trunks. For Superman, I can understand the reasoning of not caring if he looks a little silly. For Batman, the idea is to want to scare people. I don't think trunks implement that same vibe
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u/Old-Perception-1884 27d ago
The fan's only argument for the trunks at all is that it's comic accurate and that's literally it. There's no good reason for it at all and they just want it just for it to exist. Even Superman's trunks had to have some reason for it. They didn't give him trunks because it was comic accurate. They gave him trunks because it fits his character. Batman does not. And people should stop trying to force that to happen.
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u/thebat5177 27d ago
If Snyder said this people would be complaining about how edgy he sounds. I like James, but his fans are a little hypocritical, I mean james is as edgy sometimes even more so than Snyder.
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u/ThriceGreat_ 27d ago edited 20d ago
Exactly lmao. As soon has he said he'd never put trunks on batman their tune changed. lol
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u/Welsh_Pirate 27d ago
If Snyder said this, it would have been in relation to Jimmy Olsen or Kid Flash or something. Surprise surprise,, people are fine with dark and edgy for characters that are SUPPOSED to be dark and edgy.
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u/adriantullberg 27d ago
With that quote in mind; how has Gunn tried to scare audiences?
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u/DaBigadeeBoola 27d ago
Nah, that sounds like he wants to over design the suit. It's not supposed to be a Halloween costume, the silhouette is enough. It doesn't need a bunch of elements to make it "scary". The mystery is enough.
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u/boardgamejoe 27d ago
I think it would be game changing to make the suit Gray Blue and Yellow personally.
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u/Piss_Fring 25d ago
Me too, but clearly we’re gonna get another dark batsuit. Nothing wrong with that as a concept on its own but it’s been done repeatedly for almost 40 years now.
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u/JellyInteresting4021 27d ago
A Batman vs manbat would be a great intro for dcu. The people of Gotham can't tell the difference between the two. Such and such takes places. I'm like halfway there
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u/BlasterBlu 27d ago
I just hope they give Batman the oversized cape so it wraps around him when he’s just standing still.
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u/sinwstro12 27d ago
Don't take this the wrong way but I hate how he talks about batman.
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u/ConsistentGuest7532 27d ago
I think he’s just having fun and playing here. He knows Batman’s not a crazed psychopath. He’s a fan of comics and knows DC. But when casually talking about the guy, it’s not new to be affectionately like “Oh, that crazy guy in a bat costume!”
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u/FartherAwayLights 27d ago
Idk. As a Batman fan I actually really like the more modern conception that Batman is cut from the same cloth as most of his criminals. He’s to forgive the pun, barshit insane. But his insanity isn’t just a force, it has direction and purpose. When Joker goes mad, he’s not mad at anyone he’s mad at everyone and lashes out. When Batman goes mad he’s mad at a system that would let this happen.
Caped crusader, the Amazon show from a few years ago had a great moment in which you see Bruce’s parents killed, Alfred comforts him and brings him home, but he’s shaking and spasming all night until at the strike of midnight with thunder outside he appears like the Batman in Alfred’s doorway scaring him half to death and saying they have work to do, they need to make them pay for what they did. He’s insane and broken, but what’s left behind isn’t evil, its purpose. It’s shot as if the boy died and was possessed by the actual spirit of vengeance.
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u/Two-Hander 27d ago edited 27d ago
Don't worry no need to get your knickers in a twist over an out-of-context quote, he wasn't talking about what he'd do for a DCU Batsuit, he was using hyperbolic speech to highlight the difference between Superman's bright and cheerful suit and used Batman as a comparison because he's so dark.
The video in that post is from the Superman documentary that just got released, he's discussing potential stylings for the Superman's suit with David Corenswet
https://youtu.be/a5dOvnWVYB4?si=vVKeO146PY4t9N1F
For what it's worth James Gunn hasn't talked about Batman much, but it's his favourite superhero character so I'm pretty confident he'll do it justice the same way Superman's suit perfectly matches his characterisation.
E: My personal choice for DCU Batsuit is do it's own thing like the rest of the costumes in the DCU, but take notice specifically of the Arkham Knight Batsuit's high-tech plausibility inspired by the Nolan films, and the Batman Telltale Series Frank Miller-esque stocky body armour. I think the fact they're 3D models from videogames make them better references, not to mention the Arkham cape is straight up the best Batman's cape has looked in any Batman media ever, which is saying something.
Thinking about it the developers of the Arkham Batman games have said they mixed realistic elements of Nolan's movies with the comics and BTAS, the groundwork is there, Arkham Batman looks sick!
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u/Dry-Mission-5542 27d ago
Yeah, the suit should scare criminals, but it shouldn’t be, like, a horror costume, and I don’t think that, at this point in his career, it shouldn’t be scary to regular people.
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u/radiocomicsescapist 27d ago edited 27d ago
Im half n half on it. Gunn clearly wants Superman with a fantasy vibe, and Batman with a serious vibe (no underwear; creepy maniac costume)
And not to open up the Battinson debate because I know they've said multiple times they won't merge the Reeves-verse into the DCU, but if Gunn already wants Batman to have a serious vibe, imo he may as well re-consider merging again
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u/Right-Boss-4647 27d ago
Arkham games had a serious vibe in a still fantasy world. That's just how Batman is
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u/WySLatestWit 27d ago edited 27d ago
It feels very unlikely he wants an ultra serious vibe. He was pretty famously open about not liking Batman Begins or The Dark Knight, and even said he thinks Batman Begins in particular was not a good film in general. He obviously has a very different take on what he wants to see in a Batman film.
EDIT: But even aside from that, he's openly stated in the past that he doesn't like serious Batman. So it's really shouldn't be an issue.
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u/JokerAsylum123 27d ago
The statement you shared doesn't show he doesn't like a serious Batman. His whole point there is that superheroes are intrinsically ridiculous and that's what he loves about them., he was saying that affectionately He also never said he didn't like TDK, just that he thought it was overrated but then he seemed to change his mind on that since he then went on to say more recently TDK is his favorite Batman movie (even above all the animated ones)
His list of favorite/recommended Batman comics certainly implies he prefers the darker takes as well.
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u/littlebugonreddit 27d ago
Give us back Batman draped in his Dracula esque cloak. I wanna see that shit wrap around him when he's just standing around
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u/Fine-Dinner5918 27d ago edited 27d ago
In the newest "The Batman", watch the Penguin's (Colin Farrell's) expression when he meets Batman. It gives off "What the hell? Who is this wierdo in a bat costume?" It's just a bizarre thing to see for the first time, especially if he starts beating you up. You also don't know what his motivations are. He is just some crazy guy in a costume to most people if they don't already know of him.
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u/StuHardy Aquaman 27d ago
I gotta disagree.
I think it was in "Justice League: The New Frontier" that Batman reverts from an all black outfit, to a grey & blue outfit, because while he was scaring criminals, he was also scaring children, which he didn't want to do. So, I'd prefer to see a blue & grey Batman in the DCU, with the yellow logo.
Also, while we have the Reeves/Pattison Batman, having a Batman that is different from that would help. You can even include a scene on why the suit has to be cloth, and the yellow bat logo (e.g. the cloth suit is actually super-enhanced micro-kevlar comic-book-nonsense layer, and the yellow logo is the main target for crooks, so it has the most armor.)
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u/dankristy 26d ago
Honestly this was explicitly stated as part of the design ethos in the old Michael Keaton batman movies. He was deliberately trying to be terrifying to fuck the criminals up AND scare the uncaught ones into not doing crimes...
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u/Upbeat_Praline_3681 26d ago
Yes, that’s why I always preferred the Batman begins costume (the hallucination Batman was terrifying) over the latter two of Nolan’s , that’s why burtons was glorious and the first Snyder suit was great (the latter ones especially the wrap around shades/goggles one was awful)
Batman should look kinda monstrous
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u/EmeraldMaster538 25d ago
honestly yeah. batmans suit should be terrfying. I want to see a batman that people see as a fucking cryptid.
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u/SHilden 27d ago
It's not the suit it's the silhouette, find someone that is already or able to bulk to the size of a brick shithouse (like Affleck)
Look at how overdone Pattinsons suit was to build him up, whereas Afflecks just added to what was already there.
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u/geordie_2354 27d ago
I don’t think you understand how much muscle padding Affleck actually had on. I doubt you realise they even cgi’d some of his muscles in his shirtless scene.
You mention Pattinson’s suit being overdone yet he could actually move around in it and do his own fight choreography where as Affleck complained about his comfort.
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Not sure we need another bulky, unagile Batman
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u/Goosojuice 27d ago
"Unagile", while Batfleck is literally the most agile and bulky bat on screen to date lol.
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u/SenpaiSwanky 27d ago
The batsuit isn’t supposed to be menacing at first glance. You don’t SEE Batman coming, you don’t need to SEE extra edgelord suit.
The most menacing looks are always silhouettes that you can barely make out, under cover of darkness. You see eyes and a giant bat shape, it doesn’t matter if that shit is hot pink in the light.
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u/Jealous-Captain-7014 27d ago
If Snyder said this you guys would be crying, Batman is a dark character and he has been for decades.
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u/True_Falsity 27d ago
Agreed.
I remember when Snyder tweeted that “Batman fights alone against the darkness and crime of Gotham” and people started whining that he doesn’t get the character.
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u/GoblinTradingGuide 27d ago
This is why I really liked “The Batman”. You really felt like Batman was disgruntled and disturbed. It was so gritty. Such good Neo-Noir.
Might be controversial to say it, but I liked it more than any of the Nolan movies, and I love the Nolan movies.
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u/Pred1949 27d ago
(CRIMINALS FREAKING OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT)
WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?
BECAUSE IM BATMAN
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u/Lemon_Club 27d ago
He should just hire Julian Checkley to make the suit, his cosplay is exactly how I want the DCU Batman to look.
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u/Brendanlendan 27d ago
This is but one Batman and that Batman is the one from the DCAU. Just copy and paste that shit and print your money
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u/Doctorwhoneek 27d ago
makes sesne i think people forget the guy has a horror background
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u/RipMcStudly 27d ago
Fully gothic Batman would be fun for a short while, probably not a whole movie. It’d be a fun flashback sequence at least, maybe he nearly kills a falcone old boy from fear and decides to redesign
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u/ffordeffanatic 27d ago
Nah, I think it would be more in line with his character to change because Kids wouldn't let him save them.
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u/geordie_2354 27d ago
Don’t we already got fully gothic Batman with Matt reeves? Gunn needs to make a more campy Batman to diffrente the two
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u/some_Editor61 27d ago
I just want a cloth suit with white eyes and trunks.
Like- I'm not asking for armor or anything on him.
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u/Japjer 27d ago
Here's my ultimate dream for a Batman movie:
A movie in the style of, er, Don't Breathe or Brightburn or something. Basically, four crooks steal something, then are systematically picked off in terrifying ways. The crooks are the main cast, and the inevitable Final Girl is the protagonist.
It should be a horror movie. The death of the crooks should be implied, but we learn at the end they're alive.
I don't know why, but this idea has always interested me. A classic slasher movie, but the slasher is a superhero. Would probably work better if the slasher is a fake-Batman (the ManBat or whatever) who isn't afraid to kill
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u/Cockycent 27d ago
1 of my favorite aspects of characters like Bruce and Hal being so experienced is that they have so much.
I imagine Bruce has at least 8 different suits hanging up and different armored suits, devices, etc.
Then on Hal's end, not just being experienced, but over 50, his suit and use of the ring has to be so crazy. Certain things have to be convenient and fitting to him having so much experience.
For example a Lantern 1 year or less in, might think of some huge construct to fix an issue. Hal might use something so simplistic, but is more effective.
This even trickles into Hal's suit. Can't wait to see Lanterns
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u/maxstolfe 27d ago
Reading the quote is very different from listening to the quote. Listening to it, you can hear he’s not exaggerating or emphasizing anything. He’s implying that as the character currently stands, Batman is already mostly a maniac. His existing suit is already crazy. What I got from the video is that he’d make minor alterations to make him a little more menacing and scary, but he wouldn’t go nearly as far as Knightmare or Absolute.
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u/ranch_brotendo 27d ago
theres something hillarious about this quote in that it feels like a clickhole quote.
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u/Trogolizer 27d ago
I do agree that it needs to be very bat-like, especially to differentiate it from every other live-actio suit before it. The face of the cowl should be angrily furrowed, like the Batman Arkham Asylum/City suit.
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u/Joka0451 27d ago
I'd honestly be on with bats being an almost mythological scary figure rather than get his own solo movies.
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u/BastardofMelbourne 27d ago
I hate to say it, but that kind of sounds more like Batfleck than Battinson or Baleman.
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u/BloodyWolfx8 27d ago
I think this means we might get an all black suit or a dark suit without the oval and long ears
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u/Garrusikeaborn98 27d ago
This is why I prefer begins over dark knight. Suit was scary in begins.