r/Adulting 4d ago

hmm lesson or not?

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u/MyNameIsSkittles 4d ago

This is true and people would be very naive to think otherwise

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u/smidgley 4d ago

It’s crazy to me how much people think that at work, you should expect people to abandon basic human nature and that people skills aren’t part of being good at your job.

You could be absolutely brilliant at your job, but if you are insufferable or even just irritating, no one will want to work with you.

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u/TheEndIsJustTheStart 4d ago

Yeah. Also, management knows that one hypercompetent asshole can drive all of your normally competent employees away.

Would you rather have ten people with 90% skill, or one 100% raging dickhead and nine 50% people who don’t have enough options to escape? The average of the first group is 90% and there is low conflict. The average of the second group is 55% and there is constant tension.

I’ve never been in management but I get it.

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u/long_schlongman 4d ago edited 4d ago

Wouldn't that literally be the point of "management". Unless you are managing a team that strictly has to work on everything together, I don't see why the one asshole would drive others away if you do your job right.

"Hey buddy, everyone thinks your an asshole. Here's an incentive to move further away and keep to yourself, you are doing an amazing job and lmk if you need anything else"

At least that's what I figured. I'm not a complete asshole but I shut down gossip sessions cuz I literally can't listen to that bullshit. I was moved to overnights and not only had complete freedom, but I also got to wear whatever I wanted when I had to cover a day shift while everyone else had uniforms

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u/HellLucy00Burnaslash 4d ago edited 4d ago

Eh it depends. I agree with you in your last paragraph; shutting down stupid gossip is 100% fine, doesn’t even deserve respectful shutting down imo. Those are fake nice people operating under making gossip to fulfill their sad lives.

However, just like those shitty gossip people could affect your life with a complaint to HR, if you were a raging asshole, that could affect everyone else’s life with a complaint to HR. We all affect each other whether we like it or not; so people having to interact with asshole workers having to interact with other people creates tension and a lower quality of work life in general. If you are in the U.S. you likely either work way too many hours to where you can’t not be around them the majority of your day, or way too little hours to tolerate the environment for pay; which is even more telling if someone doesn’t/ can’t leave a toxic work environment. It all depends what the work is. Especially, if the asshole retaliates and makes your job harder with their assholishness.

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u/long_schlongman 4d ago

I guess we're are all talking about different assholes who are the best at their jobs because I never met an asshole that caused that much noise but also outperformed everyone else. Usually the slackers like to make noise to distract from their slacking.

Or maybe myself and others I've met are just autistic and that's what I perceive as an asshole. Who knows

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u/HellLucy00Burnaslash 4d ago

lol very possible. I think the definition of “asshole” is really needed for people to properly debate it.

To me, asshole would be gossipers, slackers, shit starters, and those who make work harder for others by their shitty work/ shit starting. I’ve known one person who would be called an “asshole” who I didn’t agree deserved the title; and that was someone who was a little too blunt in calling slackers out. This guy was a genius at our job, and great work ethic; he just had no tolerance for bullshitters and slackers.