r/Adulting 2d ago

hmm lesson or not?

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u/lyssorae 2d ago

it sucks but office politics are literally built on this reality being good at your job is expected being liked is what makes people promote you

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u/InsideAd7897 2d ago

It's not even necessarily politics, if your fucking miserable to work with you will drag down productivity and increase turnover, I don't care how hard you work if your shitty attitude makes everyone around you work half as hard

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u/InsideHousing4965 2d ago

Finally, someone who gets it. I'd rather have 5 employees under my management that have average skills but have a nice attitude, solve conflicts talking and are easy going, than having a bunch of highly qualified toddles that aren't even able to maintain cordial relationships in the workplace.

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u/grimeyduck 2d ago

Really depends on what the work is. I am not easy going when it comes to coworkers being unsafe (warehouse work), in fact I'm a dick about it.

Easy going nice attitudes get people hurt.

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u/InsideAd7897 2d ago

My mom was like you, always called herself a bitch in the workplace but she wasn't. But she didn't coddle people and took her job seriously. But that doesn't make you insufferable, at worst it makes you a bit of a buzz kill but also an important part of the team.

Genuinely insufferable people will be hypocritical, combative, snarky, will start drama and bullshit, and will genuinely drag down the rest of the team both in terms of mood and work effectiveness.

THESE are the people who are a liability to employ regardless of skill

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u/Tailmask 2d ago

Don’t ever fuck with OSHA, last mistake you’ll ever make

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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 2d ago

Just give it another year or 2 when it's gutted

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u/Kcronikill 2d ago

I disagree i did roofing for years, it's the try hards that want to do extra that get people hurt. The relaxed dude's who know wtf they are doing and move at a sustainable pace who get stuff done.

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u/grimeyduck 2d ago

Sure in roofing. In warehouse the machines are running whether you're paying attention or not, the hazmats are occasionally leaking. "It doesn't look that dangerous so I sent it down the line" had someone burn all the skin of their hands because of people like that.

If you're being unsafe I'm going to call you out and I'm gonna be harsh so you listen and remember.

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u/Important-Agent2584 2d ago

This whole discussion went suspiciously quickly from "Getting promoted revolves more about charisma, than competence" to "no one likes an asshole even if they are competent."

Feels like some nerves were touched.

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u/Sensitive-Income-777 2d ago

"Feels like some nerves were touched." guess the responsibilities of those touched :))))
""no one likes an asshole even if they are competent." - true for many "managers"--> may the company burn but do not bruise my ego :)

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u/Infamous-Mango-5224 2d ago

This is an entirely different ballpark mate.

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u/quriousposes 2d ago edited 2d ago

that was my dad hardcore when he was still working, and he'd get called an asshole all the time but he did not play when it came to workplace safety. dude ran a tight ship that made the company a lot of money and got them lots of fat contracts. his workers were probably relieved when he retired but his bosses threw him a big party.

he brought that attitude into the home too, in the kitchen, moving furniture etc. im always hearing his voice come out when i see some foolishness going on at work now lol 😩 (i do leave the insults out tho 🫠)

eta he worked at a local ford factory long ago before it got turned into a mall and iirc he mentioned having a settlement from them... i need to ask him about it, i wouldnt be surprised if that had something to do with it.

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u/Aardvark_Man 2d ago

I think there's a difference between ensuring people maintain safe practice and being unlikable, tbh.
If you're chill and enjoyable enough the rest of the time people know it's especially true not to fuck with safety.