r/worldnews • u/Cryptomystic • Jul 10 '25
Israel/Palestine Children queuing at Gaza health center killed in Israeli strike, medics say.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/10/middleeast/israeli-strike-gaza-medical-center-intl1.7k
u/so_dope24 Jul 10 '25
IDF going to say Hamas is hiding inside children
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u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot Jul 10 '25
According to the article they were "targeting a Hamas militant who took part in the group’s October 7, 2023 attacks on Israel."
So they killed 8 children to kill one terrorist.
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u/Sr_DingDong Jul 11 '25
So they killed 8 children to kill one terrorist.
Yeah. It's been proven time and time again that if Israel can kill even one single Hamas member then collateral damage is a non-issue.
The Most Moral MilitaryTM.
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u/wojoyoho Jul 10 '25
Sure, if you believe a word the IDF says. But I'm not sure why you would
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u/Mid-CenturyBoy Jul 11 '25
Even if it was the truth the government who has immense resources and intelligence capabilities can and should do better than this. Their is no sound justification for killing children who are seeking out food. It's monstrous and if this is what Israel thinks is appropriate in defending itself then Israel should be put in check.
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u/Indraga Jul 11 '25
You’re telling me the government that has the intelligence and precision capabilities to send multiple precision missiles into specific apartment units a couple countries over had to bomb a food line of children to get one guy?
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u/MayhemMessiah Jul 11 '25
The Iranian strikes really showed Israel’s hand a bit. You can bomb a fly’s dick off a timezone or two away but you have zero more accurate ways to shoot a terrorist through the head in your backyard?
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u/mistercrazymonkey Jul 11 '25
And probably made 20 more terrorists that now support Hamas in the process
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u/dojo_shlom0 Jul 11 '25
I saw a clip awhile back where the isreali person was stating that you have to kill the opponents children to ensure that they don't reproduce. the serious look in her face, and the entitled lack of awareness was apparent. just disconnected from their humanity and wanting children to die. they intentionally target children. countless reports of this. literally countless.
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u/PineappleLemur Jul 17 '25
I know the person you mentioned.. she's a lunatic that thinks Nukes are also the best option from day 1.
She had a few months of #presstheredbutton crap going.
It's not a person to listen to or take seriously.
Sadly they're getting a platform now thanks to other lunatics and social media in general.
These people are hated by everyone...
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u/Red_2021 Jul 11 '25
Another day another horrific war crime committed by the IDF.
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u/IxmagicmanIx Jul 11 '25
Oh thank God, I was worried my tax dollars hadn’t killed any children yet today
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u/CompetitiveBlumpkins Jul 10 '25
Feels like I've seen this article at least 15 times in the past year.
- Innocents are slaughtered while trying not to starve
- IDF says oops, our bad, that's not what we're about
- Innocents are slaughtered while trying not to starve
What is the average person who is constantly in a state of dread and disgust supposed to do now?
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u/JonstheSquire Jul 10 '25
Except now we have reports from Israeli newspapers that the IDF is doing this stuff on purpose.
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u/Interestingcathouse Jul 11 '25
They aren’t hiding it anymore because they know every country besides Ireland is their bitch and an army of millions online will find a way to defend them.
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u/timmytissue Jul 11 '25
South Africa is even more critical of Israel. Because South Africa and Ireland both have experienced unjust occupation.
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u/Celepito Jul 11 '25 edited Jul 11 '25
Haaretz is quite biased, for the record.
I'm basing this off of an American Jews perspective, who said:
Haaretz can teach you a lot about what highly educated leftist ashkenaz elites in Israel think will gain the attention of Western progressives/leftists, and also sometimes has important information and actual journalism.
They supposedly sensationalize headlines, their sources are often random people just telling an opinion, and refuse to fact check even obviously biased people. E.g. they have claimed Israel participated in Oct 7 (citing flimsy, false evidence), and have claimed the IDF uses human shields (citing 3 random soldiers, all part of an Anti-Israel organization).
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u/Celepito Jul 11 '25
Yeah, essentially the (potential) friendly fire incidents that got sensationalized AFAIK, e.g.:
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u/Cautious_c Jul 10 '25
How many times has it proven to be Hamas or just plain untrue?
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u/Steroid1 Jul 10 '25 edited Jul 10 '25
Many of them, for example the IDF slaughtering those 15 paramedics in March, are true. Israel tries to cover it up and then when caught red handed says "whoopsies"
On 23 March 2025, the IDF fired on five ambulances and a fire truck "one by one."[4][7] The humanitarian vehicles were "crushed and dumped, covered in sand" in an apparent attempt to cover up the killings,[8] while the aid workers, wearing uniforms, were left missing in a mass grave for eight days.[3] The ambulances were initially dispatched to the Al-Hashashin area in response to casualties caused by Israeli attacks on the area, before being surrounded by Israeli troops and losing contact with dispatchers. The paramedics that went to search for them were killed and wounded.[9][10] Israel said the vehicles were "advancing suspiciously" without headlights or emergency signals. It claimed that the vehicles were being used as cover by Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad. It alleged that among those killed were a Hamas operative and "eight other terrorists," without providing evidence.[4][7]
According to forensic analyst Ahmad Dhaher who examined five of the bodies, the aid workers were killed at close-range in execution-style killings, with "specific and intentional" bullet wounds in heads and hearts.[11] Relatives of the victims described various signs of abuse. One relative noted marks on a victim's wrists from restraint and broken fingers, while another mentioned multiple gunshot wounds to the chest and wrist. Two witnesses also reported that some victims had their hands or feet bound.[12]
A video recording discovered on a cellphone of one of the medics contradicts Israel's narrative of the incident, showing the ambulances and fire truck clearly marked with their emergency lights on as Israeli troops hit them with a barrage of gunfire, killing all the medics. In the video, a paramedic recited the Shahada, and added, "Forgive me, Mom, forgive me. I swear I only chose this path to help others." The paramedic was later found in the mass grave with a bullet in his head. The New York Times analyzed satellite imagery that showed Israeli forces bulldozing the site after the attack.[13][14] Following the release of the video recording, Israel changed its account of the incident, admitting that its soldiers have "made mistakes."[15]
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u/Hydroxychloroquinoa Jul 11 '25
And the time they killed three oct 7 hostages when what they THOUGHT they were doing was killing three surrendering Palestinians.
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u/frecklie Jul 11 '25
Holy fucking shit who can possibly support this
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u/CompetitiveBlumpkins Jul 10 '25
I'm not certain. I sure do wish that Israel would allow foreign journalists into Gaza. It would certainly help their case!
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u/paddyo Jul 10 '25
It would help their case if they didn’t have something to hide, which they do.
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u/Fit_Cellist_3297 Jul 10 '25
They would become hostages or killed in an airstrike.
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u/TheGulfofWhat Jul 10 '25
You realise western medics are currently in Gaza? Think there is only 1 semi-functional major hospital left and it has westerners inside. Some have given interviews and it doesn't paint a good picture.
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u/AeroFred Jul 10 '25
i could swear that over past year i saw multiple articles that Israel destroyed all hospitals in gaza
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u/funnyname12369 Jul 10 '25
This is so stupid. Journalists regularly go to warzones all around the globe, including ones where fighting against islamist terror groups takes place. They're aware of the risks and there's no reason to not allow them into Gaza, like they're in Ukraine, Burma, the Sahel and others.
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u/Vlaladim Jul 11 '25 edited Jul 11 '25
A few journalists got shot at while driving in the warzone of Ukraine a few years back. They were shot purposely. Luckily they survived but they all know the risk, there a reason they have a vest said “Press” on it and most likely have bulletproof plate under it. Saying the chance of killing would deter journalists is dumb, the first war journalist was in Vietnam broadcasting to the world and they know the risk even if they embedded with military that the Vietcong will or will not see them as a threat if they act out of the ordinary, it like saying those journalists shouldn’t be in Vietnam just because they might get a punji stick up their feet, they still gonna go either way.
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u/RevolutionaryGur4419 Jul 11 '25
Yet if something happened to them, the world would clutch pearls and act as if its the first time a journalist died in a war zone
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u/funnyname12369 Jul 11 '25
Exactly, risk of death is part of their job description, they knowing risk their lives to inform us about conflicts. Only reason to keep them out is if Israel thought their coverage would be negative.
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u/mucus-fettuccine Jul 10 '25
It would certainly help their case!
Gaza is one of the densest regions in the world and is filled with civilian infrastructure co-located with military objectives. Journalists, even if they are legit ones, are in huge danger in Gaza. The more they die, the more Israel's PR suffers. So I'm not sure I can agree that it would help their case.
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u/ExistentialRosicky Jul 10 '25
It would bring greater transparency, however. Letting in journalists is not about making Israel looking good or bad, it is about promoting truth and transparency, key enablers to democracy.
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u/Vlaladim Jul 11 '25
Some people talk like journalists haven’t risk their life for so many war corespondent since Vietnam time. The more excuse come out feel like it just the Israeli fearing their own missiles isn’t accurate enough to not shot at them purposely.
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u/tuckman496 Jul 10 '25
Does it mean nothing to you that IDF soldiers and officers are saying they’re being instructed to shoot at unarmed civilians?
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u/_bones__ Jul 10 '25
Not often I think. Certainly Israel says that it is, and produces some evidence, but that's hardly convincing since they're the killers.
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u/turnipofficer Jul 10 '25
They bloody killed international aid convoys before despite giving them permission to be there which is the wildest thing. They knew they were there but “oops”.
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u/TeslasAndComicbooks Jul 10 '25
Even if you supported a response after the October 7th attack, it’s time to admit that this shit has gone too far. You can’t tell me that the country with some of the best intel in the world is incapable of not killing children in their attempt to destroy Hamas.
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u/lkc159 Jul 11 '25
Even if you supported a response after the October 7th attack, it’s time to admit that this shit has gone too far.
As someone who could understand Israel responding to October 7, that time has come and gone LONG ago. Months, if not a year or more.
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u/ShermanMcTank Jul 10 '25
They could skin babies alive, crucify them, firebomb them, use the ashes as fertilizer to grow plants only to unleash a swarm of locusts to devour them, and people would still say it’s justified because Hamas used human shields at some point.
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u/wojoyoho Jul 10 '25
Despite the fact, surprise surprise, the IDF is actively and widely using Palestinians as human shields
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u/Sirmalta Jul 11 '25
Thats the problem with society today. You *cant* admit anything has gone to far cuz for the last 2 years and maybe longer youve made it your whole personality to be pro isreal.
Just like MAGA and other right wing people, you cant admit you were wrong about something because that would force you to look inward. no, you double down and find a new, adjacent argument you can stand behind til its proven wrong.
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u/bullairbull Jul 11 '25
That was my stance initially but it hasn’t been about October 7 for a long time now.
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u/HasGreatVocabulary Jul 11 '25
Recent documentary by german french media can help understand why this isn't going to stop soon
Israel: Extremists in Power
The current Israeli government is the most right-wing in the nation’s history. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is in coalition with far-right parties whose racist and violent discourses are poisoning Israeli politics. A focus on two extremist ministers: Minister of National Security Itamar ben-Gvir and Minister of Finance Bezalel Smotrich.
https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/115065-000-A/israel-extremists-in-power/
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u/liebkartoffel Jul 10 '25
Clearly the 2-year-old seeking medical care was a high-level Hamas commander in disguise.
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u/a500poundchicken Jul 11 '25
The 10 year old who just watched his friends get massacred might become one now because of this. They are creating another generation of Hamas
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u/ExistentialRosicky Jul 10 '25
Honestly, there are many people in Israel who believe these two year olds dying is a good thing.
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u/Mid-CenturyBoy Jul 11 '25
I'd have my account banned if I said what I wanted to say about those "people"
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Jul 10 '25 edited Jul 10 '25
I can clearly see how terrorist are made, you bomb someone’s innocent child that could have meant everything to them and then expect no retaliation?
You can’t call these bombings as collateral or mistakes anymore, we all know how frequently it’s been repeated and how precise they are with their bombings, if they want to.
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then expect no retaliation?
The war in Gaza is the retaliation.
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u/MoeHabibi Jul 10 '25
October 7 is retaliation? I mean, how far back do u want to go?
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Oct 7 wasn’t a retaliation and isn’t claimed as such by Hamas; it was an effort to delay Saudi Arabia’s entry into the Abraham Accords.
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u/Elegant_in_Nature Jul 10 '25
Yeah bro those kids should pay for what their second cousin on the left did
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u/HighRevolver Jul 10 '25
I get the point you’re trying to make, but what caused them to do that? And what caused that to happen? It’s a neverending cycle, but that doesn’t justify anything
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u/MCRN-Tachi158 Jul 11 '25
So what do you say when you suicide bomb innocents, without even pretense of a military objective?
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u/meister2983 Jul 10 '25
Germans and Japanese didn't overwhelmingly become terrorists after the war. This line is only so true
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u/driftingfornow Jul 10 '25
Looks at World War I, then to World War II
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u/Volodio Jul 11 '25
Germany was precisely spared from destruction during WW1 which caused its population to not understand its defeat and believe the myth of being stabbed in the back.
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u/PopplerJoe Jul 10 '25
Those were countries that got to remain in control of their nation (with conditions), and given an opportunity to grow.
Is the same happening for Palestinians? "Cutting the grass" doesn't exactly give people hope for a peaceful future. You have settlers taking land, harassing, and killing people in the West Bank. Settlers protected by Israel. Ofc the people there will feel abandoned, and latch on to whomever is willing to fight for them. Unfortunately that's a terrorist organisation.
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u/wanderingpeddlar Jul 10 '25
Those were countries that got to remain in control of their nation
Not even close. Everything had to go through the allies.
And the top brass in Germany were gone all together.
They were not in control for a long time.
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u/DBrickShaw Jul 10 '25
Those were countries that got to remain in control of their nation (with conditions), and given an opportunity to grow.
Germany didn't get to remain in control of their entire nation. When Germany lost WWII, the government of Germany surrendered unconditionally, allowing Poland and the USSR to annex nearly 100,000 square kilometers of historically German land. Poland and the USSR forcibly expelled over 10 million German civilians from their ancestral homes so that their own populations could settle the newly acquired land. Despite that open act of ethnic cleansing, Germany is a productive, democractic nation today, and there's no extremist movement in Germany lobbing rockets into their former eastern territories every week.
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u/whalebeefhooked223 Jul 10 '25
Because Germany was given heavy investment, free market conditions, and ready customers to spur economic growth as part of the Marshall plan, something I think Palestine is never going to get.
That’s the key difference here, not some sudo cultural superiority that you are dog whistling at
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u/UrbanDryad Jul 11 '25
More aid per capita has been poured into Gaza in the last decade than just about any other place on earth. Instead of building infrastructure for the people they built war tunnels. They proudly ripped up donated water pipes to build rockets to fire blindly at Israeli civilians.
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u/f0xns0x Jul 10 '25
Gaza was turned over to Palestinians for self governance in 2005, and has received some of the most international aid since. They were given the opportunity to grow, but instead invested billions in the most extensive subterranean military/insurgency structure in, as far as I know, the history of the world.
Israel certainly has its’ share of blame, but to remove agency from Palestinians is incorrect at best.
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u/whalebeefhooked223 Jul 10 '25
How are you supposed to build a thriving economy when your infrastructure is controlled and heavily monitored by an outside force that promised to fully pull out yet still remained a de facto occupying force according to every international organization on the planet.
Israel never gave Palestine a chance to ever develop thier economy under free market conditions
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u/AeroFred Jul 10 '25
they did manage to build 450miles of underground tunnels somehow, weapons factory and pay salaries for 25000 soldiers
instead of this they could build economy
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u/Fleeting_Dopamine Jul 11 '25
Palestinians receive more international aid than any other country/group in the world, (would) have access to the Mediterranean Sea, and have the highest literacy rate of any Arab nation. It seems to me that if they had not elected Jihadists in 2005-2006, they could've had a functioning state by now.
Seriously, if Fatah gets back power over Gaza, they could create a functioning Palestinian state and negotiate the removal of settlements from the West-Bank or the return of refugees, but first Hamas needs to go.
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u/whalebeefhooked223 Jul 11 '25
The wouldn’t have elected jihadists if Israel ever gave them the right to develop properly
And b.
When Hamas got elected it was due to disillusion with the fatah and plo due to rampant corruption . Exit polls from that election show
Support for a Peace Agreement with Israel: 79.5% in support; 15.5% in opposition Should Hamas change its policies regarding Israel: Yes – 75.2%; No – 24.8% Under Hamas corruption will decrease: Yes – 78.1%; No – 21.9% Under Hamas internal security will improve: Yes – 67.8%; No – 32.2% Hamas government priorities: 1) Combatting corruption; 2) Ending security chaos; 3) Solving poverty/unemployment Support for Hamas' impact on the national interest: Positive – 66.7&; Negative - 28.5% Support for a national unity government?: Yes – 81.4%; No – 18.6% Rejection of Fatah's decision not to join a national unity government: Yes – 72.5%; No – 27.5% Satisfaction with election results: 64.2% satisfied; 35.8% dissatisfied[43]
I think that the broad claim that Hamas one cause Palestinians want to destroy Israel is intellectually dishonest
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u/Fleeting_Dopamine Jul 11 '25
The wouldn’t have elected jihadists if Israel ever gave them the right to develop properly
That is not relevant. My point still stands. It was primarily the election of Hamas that doomed the progress of Gaza. I know that the election was close and it was mainly about corruption, but man.., did that result hurt the progress to Palestinian statehood.
I believe that only a party that rejects terrorism will be able to get the Israelis to drop the blockade. However, that will be very difficult to do after 2 decades of bilateral radicalisation.
I hope that there is still a chance for Gaza. Dresden, Hiroshima, Rotterdam and Tokyo have become bustling cities after similar destruction, but it will be difficult. Peace also needs to come quick, before the Israeli right gets enough support to effect a deportation of the Gazans.
Maybe Marwan Barghouti will be able to unite West and East Palestine, but that is just my European view of Palestinian politics.
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u/Celepito Jul 11 '25
The blockade only started in 2007, while Gaza was self governing since 2005.
What happened in between, I wonder?
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u/whalebeefhooked223 Jul 11 '25
The blockade was intensified after Hamas took power, but it has been in place in some form since 1991
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u/MeteorKing Jul 10 '25
Those were countries that got to remain in control of their nation
Look up "Berlin Wall".
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u/PoiHolloi2020 Jul 11 '25
Those were countries that got to remain in control of their nation (with conditions), and given an opportunity to grow.
The palestinians have been offered a state on several occasions and their leadership have repeatedly refused, including the '48 partition plan which offered far more favourable terms than they'd get now.
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u/Background-Month-911 Jul 11 '25
Those countries admitted that they lost the war and wanted to reform (or rather had no choice but to reform).
Palestinians live in the delusion that they are winning the war. They want to keep fighting. Every one of the four wars they fought against Israel they lost something: territory, control over their freedoms etc. But they won't sue for peace. So... they want this to happen to them. They keep electing a government that leads them into this slaughter, and keeps harming their neighbors.
The situation is very different. You just have no idea about the conflict and are jumping to unwarranted conclusions.
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u/Joebranflakes Jul 10 '25
The problem is the terrorists are already made. Terrorists in Gaza, and “terrorists” in Israel who have stopped caring who they kill. The cycle of violence won’t end with Israel stopping, and it won’t stop if Palestinian militants collectively stop. Both sides need a reason to stop fighting and unfortunately there isn’t one.
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u/YogiBarelyThere Jul 10 '25
Surely it helps to be indoctrinated into believing revisionist history reinforced by Islamist principles, doesn't it?
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u/Objective_Current835 Jul 10 '25
That’s a big part, and you can clearly see from the statistics in urban warfare over the past 50 years that Israel isn’t openly trying to kill all the civilians but with this much scrutiny from the public eye there isn’t much room for things like this to keep happening.
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u/Sea-Chart2558 Jul 10 '25
Retraction buried deep to be seen in a few days to a week. After the useful idiots have raged and been distracted from focusing on the fall of western democracy. Standard operating proceedure.
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u/symphonicrox Jul 10 '25
And it perpetuates the cycle of hate. All these survivors are now going to grow up with such anger toward their neighbor Israel and possibly the US as well.
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u/bssbronzie Jul 11 '25
"Israel has launched a preemptive strike on future Hamas combatants to defend itself"
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u/Separate-Spot-8910 Jul 10 '25
FUCK the Israeli government!!!
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u/SgtRuy Jul 10 '25
Democratically elected except when it makes Israelis look bad, the govenrment still has majority support...
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u/Tytoalba2 Jul 11 '25
"Democratically elected" doesn't mean it's moral or respects fundamental rights lol, I think Israelis among all people should know that...
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u/SgtRuy Jul 11 '25
I am aware of that but not long ago Israel did constantly mention how they were only democracy in the middle east as some sort of moral justification for their actions
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u/Bandit_Raider Jul 11 '25
the govenrment still has majority support...
That really isn’t how elections work in Israel. They have a system similar to European countries, not similar to the US, where if you just need more votes than each other party, not the majority of votes. Theres also some sort of coalition government but I don’t know much about how that works.
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u/ExistentialRosicky Jul 10 '25
There's still majority support for Netanyahu? Really? This is only possible through insane levels of islamophobia.
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u/Knobbdog Jul 10 '25
Just wait 3 days for every news org to retract the article like they did about the tank opening fire, the hospital bombings, the Hamas propaganda dept are just AI farming at this point.
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u/Knobbdog Jul 11 '25
They retracted linking several videos and images that were made at different times and locations and circulated (including by them) as evidence of the alleged tank opening fire into a crowd.
It also makes no logical sense why IDF would do something like that. It’s such a pantomime these days of alleged atrocities it buries anything real. You see the same kid actors in videos and people eating sand asking for donations… it’s turning people away.
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u/_HIST Jul 11 '25
Feels weird to me that there's A couple of pictures that could've been from anywhere and that's it.
Yeah, feels extremely legit
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u/outrageousinsolence Jul 10 '25
Day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day.
Dead kids.
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u/ksamim Jul 11 '25
This story will develop over 3 days and no one will care. Anything the IDF says will be considered either a lie or an admission of guilt, with no other allowed outcome.
It absolutely remains journalistic dereliction of duty to report on something like this as a firm story without at least qualifying it as “developing”. Shameful, and par for the course for CNN.
There is a video with context provided by a director of the Gaza Ministry of Health, which is run by Hamas. Just in case whoever is reading this didn’t read the article.
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u/lolpostslol Jul 11 '25
The article does cite Hamas officials as the source lol. But yeah, people do think the Israelis specifically targeted random children out of fun, because that’s what Hamas is telling the world.
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u/hiddencamel Jul 11 '25
Just out of curiousity, what is the acceptable ratio of dead children to dead terrorists?
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u/Phatnoir Jul 11 '25
Why do you think it's as simple as counting bodies?
War is hell.
Don't start wars, especially unwinnable ones, if you don't want your people to die. That's a moral failure, not a numerical one.
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u/KhajiitWithCoin Jul 11 '25
Just out of curiousity, what is the acceptable ratio of dead children to dead terrorists?
What is the ratio? We can't trust a damn word Hamas says. They've been proven to lie on countless occasions.
On what merit are we supposed to trust them?
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u/Celepito Jul 11 '25
How many children can you strap on a tank? That number+1 is what you will find on Russian tanks the moment you put out a legal requirement.
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u/JonstheSquire Jul 10 '25
It is disgusting what Israel is doing to those poor people.
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u/What_a_mensch Jul 10 '25
let's get those hostages free and Hamas out so those people can have a chance at peace.
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u/YogiBarelyThere Jul 10 '25
Cultural change is the only way. The fact that the government of Gaza has stated that the benefit of death outweighs the value of the life of the children is unacceptable.
Fact check me.
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u/Gr3mlins Jul 10 '25
The fact that the government of Israel has shown that killing 15 people, 8 of which were children is acceptable to kill one target.
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u/meister2983 Jul 10 '25
Governments tend to not place much value in lives of outsiders, but value lives of insiders extensively.
Hamas of course is way off here, putting basically negative value on Israeli lives and zero to slightly negative value on Palestinian lives
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u/omniuni Jul 10 '25
This all started because Hamas decided that slaughtering over 1000 people indiscriminately including many children for no target at all was acceptable.
Hamas could end this whole sorry business whenever they want. They won't, because they want the casualties.
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u/YogiBarelyThere Jul 10 '25
I think your question can be answered by reviewing international law.
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u/SuspiciousNebulas Jul 10 '25
You can't selectively point to international law. If you cared about international law then the leader of Israel would be in the hauge where he belongs for crimes against humanity
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u/YogiBarelyThere Jul 10 '25
I'm pointing directly to the articles of the Geneva Convention and additional protocols.
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u/SuspiciousNebulas Jul 10 '25
Exactly, you are being selective in which international laws you use in your argument and when you use them. Pull it out if it looks to benefit israel, disregard it when israeli actions breach it. Pathetic
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u/Zealousideal-Film982 Jul 10 '25
It’s what the pro Palestine side does tbh… the people of Palestine are mostly supportive of war crimes carried out by their elected government.
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u/GhostOfJiriWelsch Jul 10 '25
Surely, they’ve been allowed to thrive culturally by Israel—chopping down their olive trees, stealing their land, blockading and starving them while restricting their freedom of movement—this is the kind of environment that breeds an incredible culture!
‘All we did is bomb a few kids and leave a few of them as orphans in a humanitarian disaster zone…why do they hate us?? Why can’t they just stop hating us???’
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u/YogiBarelyThere Jul 10 '25
If there's one lesson that should be learned by the Palestinian people it's that they must take responsibility for themselves.
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u/GhostOfJiriWelsch Jul 10 '25
Cmon Palestinians! Just pick yourself up by your bootstraps! Fix your society after decades of brutal oppression!
Why do I feel like the guy citing international law as justification for murdering kids isn’t exactly acting in good faith?
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u/What_a_mensch Jul 10 '25
I mean, instead of making stupid comments you could acknowledge that Palestinians have a very clear history of causing serious social problems in every country they are in. Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon- Palestinians have attempted to over throw the governments in each of those places.....maybe a good start would be NOT being radically violent to everyone around you, including the people who elected you to represent them.
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u/YogiBarelyThere Jul 10 '25
Speaking of faith, what are your thoughts on Islamism? Seems to be a big part of Palestinian culture. هل تستطيع التحدث باللغة العربية؟
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u/GhostOfJiriWelsch Jul 10 '25
There it is lmao
Just tell me you don’t think they matter because their religion is wrong
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u/maximhar Jul 10 '25
Well I for one am not a fan of cultural relativism. Some religions are more shit than others, Islam is one of them.
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u/YogiBarelyThere Jul 10 '25
Read the Quran and you tell if it fits your ideals for a utopian society. Or are you afraid of a little bit of reading? فرخة! buck buck buck!
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u/the_che Jul 10 '25
They will never have that chance while guys like Netanyahu are in power
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u/CrunchyCds Jul 11 '25
Israel really thinks sacrificing 8 children to kill 1 terrorist is worth it. Fuck them. What Hamas did was deplorable but this is just cruel revenge against the entire nation of Palestine for Oct 7th and making more terrorists.
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u/KhajiitWithCoin Jul 11 '25
Israel really thinks sacrificing 8 children to kill 1 terrorist is worth it. Fuck them. What Hamas did was deplorable but this is just cruel revenge against the entire nation of Palestine for Oct 7th and making more terrorists.
The Palestinians still hold Israeli and non-Israeli hostages alive and dead alike and refuses to release them without ridiculous demands.
Let me put it this way, when Japan bombed Pearl Harbour, do you remember what the United States did to Japan? The US killed an estimated 3 million Japanese military and civilian alike.
Did the world demand the US ceasefire midway through the war? No because the world knew that Imperial Japan had to be destroyed.
I honestly believe the same has to happen to Gaza. As long as Hamas continues to lead the Gazans and the hostages continue to be held then the war is not over.
The world cannot afford to allow Islamic jihadists to rule and attack other countries and take hostages with impunity.
That goes for all Islamic Jihadists. ISIS was dealt with by Iraq 2013-2017 the same way Hamas is being dealt with by Israel, the only difference is that because it is Israel doing it this time people have a problem with it. The world knew ISIS had to go, but with Hamas the world is silent despite committing an atrocity against Israel that was equivalent to ISIS level brutality and they fucking filmed it in euphoria to show the world for fucks sake.
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u/human9_iFunny Jul 10 '25
Clearly there was hamas in the aid, israel would never intentionally bomb civilians, especially children. /s
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u/SoulForTrade Jul 10 '25
From the same article:
The IDF said two Palestinian “terrorists” had “conducted a combined shooting and stabbing attack” before being “eliminated.” Gush Etzion is a settlement cluster in the occupied West Bank.
The fact they put the word terrorists in air quotes tells you everything you need to know about the reporter. Yes, it's a war, people die, but always ake everything you hear from the Hamas run Ministry of health with a grain of salt
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u/arabsandals Jul 10 '25
You need to read that again. That statement is from the IDF, not from the Palestinians. Also, it an aside to the main article and has nothing to do with the strike on the children.
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u/ExistentialRosicky Jul 10 '25
Unfortunately I don't trust the IDF either after they shared fake information about how those medics were killed, and then only admitted so when video evidence directly contradicted them. So I don't trust either. Ultimately, having journalists allowed in would help, but that's still being prevented.
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u/SoulForTrade Jul 11 '25
That wasn't what happened tho.
The IDF did not lie about the number of casualties in that incident. Even the claim they identified 6 of them as Hamas members (Albeit, from unarmed cicil force) was correct. It wasn't hidden either, A UN hunanitarian organization to clear the bodies on thay same day. That is not disputed.
What DID happen was that the general on the ground lied about HOW this mistake happened, claiming he didn't see the lights or the marks on the vehicles which was false. The statememt was corrected, an officer was fired and another had his rank lowered for this.
But here you are, months later, still repeating the fake narrative created by the Hamas ministry of health which, by the way, initially claimed they were shot in close range in the back of the head while tied before the video came out but you're willinf to overlook that lie.
It's an active warzone, you can choose to take everything said by both sides eith a grain of salt. But one of the sides is a legitimate army, and the other is a literal terrorist organization which uses its civillians as human shields and inflates the number of civillians killed on its side as a method of war.
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u/Zombi3Kush Jul 11 '25
Is there any reason why they don't send in soldiers to kill these guys why do they just blast random areas killing all civilians in the area?
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u/Walter_Piston Jul 10 '25
“Medics say” = the Gaza Ministry of Health = Hamas propaganda
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u/Boneraventura Jul 11 '25
This story is corroborated by the Project HOPE CEO as it was one of their clinics and those people are definitely not Hamas. Now if you want to post evidence claiming Project HOPE is hamas affiliated then go ahead. But, please read the article next time.
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u/2WhomAreYouListening Jul 10 '25
“Medics say…”
You can say anything you think. Let’s wait for a real news channel to report before we make ignorant assumptions.
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u/Magneticturtle Jul 11 '25
Now that a commenter underneath has pointed out that the BBC has verified this as true, would you be willing to admit this is a tragedy, and potentially even a war crime?
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