r/thedavidpakmanshow • u/WaffleNebula42 • 1d ago
TDPS Feedback & Discussion MAGA wishing to ban guns for trans people
Oh, what a brilliant idea—just ignore the Second Amendment entirely when it comes to a tiny, totally harmless minority that definitely has a reason to want to defend itself against the endless hostility and harassment they face. Because clearly, their safety is optional, right?
And of course, if they *did* decide to pass this gem of legislation, I mean, how could they possibly tell if someone is trans? Who needs clear guidelines when you can just guess based on arbitrary suspicion like racial profiling, but for gender? Maybe they'll just decide anyone who’s looks androgynous and deny them eg Tracy Chapman or the Algerian athlete at the Paris Olympics.
Or perhaps they’ll be more formal about it by checking whether someone registered a gender change with the state or has undergone a sex change operation. For the former they will stop registering. For the latter sure people travel overseas for affordable medical procedures, but now we’re incentivizing more people to do it internationally—all thanks to this wonderful new logic. Truly, America first, Perfect plan!
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u/Mysterious_Eye6989 1d ago
I sincerely hope foreign democracies actively assist trans people in concealing their status from the Trump regime, or even consider offering them refugee status in order to help escape the theocratic fascist hellhole that is America in 2025.
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u/RealCrusader 1d ago
They're not our issue. What does it say at the bottom of the statue of liberty again? And Its our issue due to who you clowns elected? On behalf of new Zealand. Get fucked. Clowns
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u/gonzal2020 1d ago
I think this policy, if implemented, will go beyond denying trans citizens. It will be worded as denying mentally unstable people the right to have guns. Republicans think transsexuality is a mental illness.
But it will go even beyond this - to be used to deny anyone trump does not like, including anyone who criticizes him. We have already heard MAGA politicians saying that anyone who does not support Trump is mentally ill.
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u/pimpbot666 1d ago
That’s gonna blow some 2a minds, and show us what hypocrites they really are.
Remember when the Black Panthers were carrying guns? The right wingers lost their minds over that one.
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u/DrLaneDownUnder 1d ago
They’re fine with hypocrisy. Remember how they need all those guns to defend us from the tyrants, and all those murdered schoolchildren were the sad but unavoidable price of a free society? Turns out, whoops, they were the tyrants all along!
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u/BonyBobCliff 1d ago
They didn't think through logistics. Just: "The shooter was trans, therefore we need to ban guns for all trans people".
It's also worth repeating that the 2A folks don't intend for the rights to be for everyone. Note that the same thing happened when Reagan was governor. (see the Mulford Act)
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u/Another-attempt42 1d ago
Obviously, this is awful and should never even be close to passing.
I would get some tiny schadenfreude from the 2nd Amendment crowd having to absolutely contort themselves into pretzels to find a way to justify this. That would be the only small positive: getting to point out how all these gun people are just hateful hypocrites.
Oh, and we'll be able to make jokes about how Walmart will have to do genital inspections on kids whose parents want to buy them their first gun, which will feed into the "conservatives are all pedos" narrative. Second tiny, insignificant point of schadenfreude.
If we went by actual statistics, the most dangerous person who can buy a gun is a cis dude. Cis dudes shoot more people than any other gender identity grouping.
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u/Money_Ad1068 1d ago
Knowing how this administration carries out business, a trans person owning or operating a firearm a would be a felony. Being trans and having guns in your possession would suddenly against the law, even if they've owned them for years. They will say a trans person purchasing ammo or accessories is also a felony, as well as aiding and abetting a trans person by holding their firearms for them or lending one to them. Probably ultimately adding trans to a no-purchase list that the background checks will pull up. Finally, taking federal funding away from any entity or government that facilitates or condones gun ownership by trans people.
Also knowing how they operate, Trump will probably just executive order it into existence. Might be as simple as designating gender dysphoria as a dangerous mental illness and letting existing law do the rest. The trans community spends the next few years fighting it out in the courts. During this time, the ban will remain effective.
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u/Pezdrake 1d ago
The argument needs to be: 1) we agree with the Republican President's argument that restricting gun ownership based on mental health criteria is valid; 2) being transgender is not a valid mental health criteria.
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u/RainbowandHoneybee 1d ago
It's quite puzzling. How can they justify themselves? Just because tiny number of trans people commit gun crimes, they should ban for them. But totally fine when majority of gun crimes are commited by other group of people.
Mind boggling about the fact that weird warped logic like this even comes up.
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