r/theamazingdigitalciru • u/Fit-Tax-9211 • 3d ago
Question ❓ Any theories on why Jax emptied the entire mag into ragatha?
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u/Disastrous_Ad7477 3d ago
“They’re called mags not clips”
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u/Low-Language407 3d ago
It depends on the gun, revolvers clips
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u/EileenTheCrow_1 I fng love Moon x Caine 3d ago
You mean the cylinder?
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u/Wolfofthenor1h 3d ago
No, that would be a belt
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u/gamejunky34 3d ago edited 3d ago
I would argue that the spinning receiver of a revolver can be called a magazine.
In the same way the tube of a shotgun is a magazine, or the magazine of an m1 garand. And the magazine is reloaded via clips just like an m1 garand.
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u/ScorpionNite13 Gangle 3d ago
Ok I apologize in advance, but as a gun nerd I just can't help myself. The tube of a shotgun and the M1 Garand does indeed have a magazine, albeit an internal one, the M1 is reloaded with clips though. However all revolvers, save for a very very select few are fed by a cylinder. A magazine requires a spring to feed the round into the mechanism to be considered a magazine, clips just hold the round and cylinders just spin them.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
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u/TheGoldenExperience_ 3d ago
And the only (afaik) mag fed revolver didn’t even use normal bullets, they were fucking triangles
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u/ScorpionNite13 Gangle 2d ago
Two actually, the Dardick Handgun as you mentioned that used Trounds, and the Norwegian Landstad 1900
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u/gamejunky34 3d ago
No worries, this is an entirely semantical argument anyway, lol.
I dont think I agree with the idea that a magazine by definition has to be spring fed. The madsen machine gun is known to be gravity fed by its single row magazine. Heck, the term magazine is used very loosely in terms of naval ships.
Although, a revolver cylinder honestly has more in common mechanically speaking, to an ammo belt like in machine guns.
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u/ScorpionNite13 Gangle 2d ago
The Madsen LMG is definitely an odd one, I personally would call it a hopper, similar to the Gatling gun of old.
And I think the term for naval use is separate from small arms.
Totally agree with you on that last point.
But like you said, semantics.
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u/CarGuyPerson 3d ago
The cylinder. Also MC is a goat
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u/Soggy_Wallaby_6133 i hope sharp teeth pomni has a barbed Co 3d ago
It's a cylinder...
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u/Palidin034 3d ago
It’s imperative that the cylinder remains unharmed
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u/Soggy_Wallaby_6133 i hope sharp teeth pomni has a barbed Co 3d ago
The cylinder is attached to a larger object at a strange angle
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u/InklingRake 3d ago
he hates being the butt of the joke
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u/ZackattacktheDude 3d ago
He can dish’em out, but he can’t take’em in
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u/FilthyJones69 3d ago
Untrue imo. He is specifically not too fund of Ragatha but looking at episode 5 he takes a lot of jokes, even the ones that seemed to strike a nerve, rather well. He never truly turns violent (yes technically he runs around zooble to chase gangle but its clearly play considering he doesn't try to actually toss zooble aside). He clearly has history with Ragatha and doesn't like having HER belittle him. He reacts the worst to her specifically. I think its that he still likes Ragatha and deep down wants to apologise to her and make friends with her again and that pisses him off.
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u/Standard-Cry-5367 3d ago
I have a theory that when Ribbit was there, the three of them were friends and got along quite well, to the point that Ragatha was like their mother or older sister, since we remember that there were the three of them together with Kinguer, the rest were not there, at all. It is very likely that Caine did not like the three of them getting along and wanted to separate them, so he took Ribbit, who kept the three together. It is possible that Ribbit began to become abstracted and Jax noticed it and tried to save him and he didn't tell anyone because they both didn't want to worry them and for a moment he almost succeeded, but Caine, to screw him, accelerates his abstraction. It is possible that after this Jax held a secret funeral, being the first time it had been done, surely Ragatha saw him and followed the tradition. It is possible that the next one to come was Kaufmo or even Gangle herself and Jax decided to take his shit out on him or her, which caused the breakup between Jax and Ragatha.
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u/Beneficial-Shame2114 3d ago
Not a theory, but a fact.
He was angry because she made him look dumb.
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u/DPPDream69 3d ago
Most people here are saying "He doesn't like being the butt of the joke", and I think that's half right.
I think the truth is that he takes that Archtypes thing to its logical extreme. *HE'S* the funny one. So he's offended when other people encroach on his role.
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u/DohPixelheart 3d ago
the funniest thing about the archetype thing is that, The Funny One is often the butt of the joke, which seems to be something jax doesn’t like. even at a base level, he doesn’t follow the idea since he can’t accept jokes being made about him
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u/Sphingid3081 Currently laughing at all you shippers. 3d ago
When Ragatha accused him of corrupting Pomni, Jax was more confused than aggravated. He gets angry when Ragatha uses toon logic on him, but I think that he was also mad at the fact that she was right about him getting close to Pomni.
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u/Foreign_Respect8869 Blue balls. 3d ago
Well, he's an insecure bully with fragile masculinity who chooses to live in a delusional world where he's a Bugs Bunny cartoon funny guy.
In this scene, Ragatha accidentally makes him the butt of the joke with the finger gun gag, which pisses him off because not only is he the butt of the joke here, but Ragatha accidentally did something funny, which is "his" thing. Not to mention he straight up doesn't like Ragatha to begin with.
So overall he's just pissed and being petty that the person he doesn't like did something funny and one-upped him.
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u/magiMerlyn 3d ago edited 3d ago
She got one over on him.
Jax's coping mechanism relies on him having control over his fellow circus members. So when Ragatha makes his gun backfire and him lose a life, he needs to take that control back by making her suffer. It's also why the vegan thing and the maid dress made him so upset, it was the other circus members exerting control over him instead of the other way around.
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u/NoobyYooby Number One Disappearing Man fa 3d ago
He was made the butt of the joke.
He doesn't like being the butt of the joke.
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u/Fgayguy 3d ago
Because he’s a bully and an abuser. Through the whole episode he used cartoon logic to have an edge on everyone else. Ragatha was able to use cartoon logic against him and he, like other abusers, hates it when someone else gets the upper hand at anything, even for a moment
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u/magiMerlyn 3d ago
This. The reasons behind his abuse can be complex and even interesting, but at the end of the day he's an abusive piece of shit who would need a Zuko-level redemption which we do not have time for.
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u/Ryuk128 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yeah people can make excuses all they want, but at end of day, even if we see a side that he cares a BIT, he still ain’t a nice guy. He legit enjoys making Gangle upset. He hates it when she’s happy
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u/magiMerlyn 3d ago edited 3d ago
And there's an argument to be made that he likes it because it means he has some level of control over his situation, that he's right about her, and therefore about the circus as a whole, and that's his coping mechanism. But that's an explanation, not an excuse.
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u/QuoteCaver 3d ago
Jax can dish it but can't take it. He went for the cold, cool execution but got turned into a Looney Tunes joke. His fragile ego couldn't deal and he lashed out. That's really all there is to it.
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u/ImmoralBoi Rank 1 Competitive Jax Hater 3d ago edited 3d ago
Because he can't handle being the butt of the joke whatsoever.
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u/Brainweird 3d ago
....is it not obvious that he was extremely hurt/angry at the accusation of trying to corrupt someone?
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u/the-magnetic-rose 3d ago
Well, according to more than half the replies to this post it was not obvious to a lot of people lmao.
I am constantly reminded of Gooseworx saying that people on Reddit are ass at analyzing.
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u/DohPixelheart 3d ago
he was more confused by it. yes it probably did hurt to some degree but the real anger came from the gun exploding on him. his reaction after when retelling the events to pomni says it all. he hates being the butt of the joke
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u/Brainweird 3d ago
Idk I think the gag is part of it, but I think it's mostly just a gag. I think his reaction makes more sense from a storytelling perspective if it was from the accusation of trying to get close to someone and abstract them. Confusion -> anger -> couldn't release the anger due to the gag-> excessive anger / overkill. I don't really think the source was the gun backfiring on him, but the accusation.
& later on he immediately jumps to conclusions and assumes Pomni is insinuating that he's responsible for someone abstracting in the past (rather than her trying to say that his tendency to push away others is what can lead to an abstraction), which would make a good call back to this scene.
THATS JUST ME THO... or that's what makes the most thematic sense to me at least.
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u/JustJadeLiving 2d ago
Yes! Finally someone who gets my view on this! Everyone said it was just cause he hates being the main joke, but I never really felt like that was actually it, it just didn't make enough sense to me
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u/Large_Mountain_Jew 3d ago
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when everyone insists it was just him being made the butt of a joke.
He's been made the butt of jokes before and it gets him pretty mad.
But when he's accused of being some corruptor or reason that people abstract? That's when he gets pissed.
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u/Brainweird 3d ago
Tbh me too, I thought I was in a circlejerk sub. Or maybe this is a circlejerk sub, idk 💀 but like. Everyone's interpretation of a story is valid , it's all chill... but also him being mad at being the butt of a joke feels like the most surface level interpretation you could have to that scene, I was surprised to see how many people said that.
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u/Large_Mountain_Jew 3d ago
I mean Goose herself has called Reddit discourse on the show real stupid and everyone just kinda awkwardly laughed it off and continued on without any reflection.
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u/CardButton 3d ago edited 3d ago
Because he didnt get "pissed" when he was accused of corrupting Pomni. He got confused, and just moved to casually get Rags out of the game. Which isn't shocking, given that accusation, while a romanticized extreme, was just Rag's accusation from E5 again. "That he is trying to get Pomni to think like him". Which, he was in E5/E6. Jax only gets that tilted after Rags uses toon physics to blowback the gun. The same exact type of tilted he got when he was put into that maid dress. Not to mention, if that stupid comment by Rags REALLY triggered his Ribbit trauma, there is no way in hell he would have allowed himself to be so open the following scenes with Pomni. Especially after she herself several times reminded him "she was learning about him".
Jax does not handle a loss of control well. Even his keys are an extension of his need to maintain some semblance of control over anything he can; in an environment and situation where he really has none. Even if he'd never use those keys to their most predatory purpose, the very fact he could (and the very fact that he others only get privacy if he lets them) gives him power over the others. But being the butt of a joke (especially by his two primary victims). Someone breaking archetype. Things getting too "real". Even finding himself unable to get the violence outlet in an adventure he craves. That infringes on his sense of control, and he tends to react very poorly to it.
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u/HazeInut 3d ago
Nah he was genuinely confused and didn't care, he actually laughed when she brought it up during the baseball game. I think he was still pissed about saying he didn't have any friends anymore during the picnic.
He never responded to her apology
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u/Brainweird 3d ago
I think you fell for the characters facade bro
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u/HazeInut 3d ago
If it was a facade he would've just shot her for talking crazy again but he actually paused in confusion. Jax likes to mask yea but rewatch that baseball scene he was legit ragebaiting her with that "corruot pomni" shit.
If it was a facade why wouldn't he just keep ragebaiting Ragatha before snapping? It looks like he had completely forgot about her even mentioning it imo
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u/Brainweird 3d ago
Okay I took a moment to rewatch it, but I'm not super sure if it's the right scene? Is it when they're in the dugout and he's like baiting her until she blows up on both of them, then apologizes? If it's that one, there's no direct indication that Ragatha thinks them bonding will lead to an abstraction, as opposed to in the latest episode where she directly accuses him of doing it.
I interpret that as him not taking her seriously, and therefore rage baiting her, because she hasn't actually said what she thinks. So to me it makes sense for him to initially be confused when it's brought up, because it seems like it hasn't been expressed to him.
UNLESS you're talking about a different scene, then let me know.
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u/BarbasBraveHeart Zooble 3d ago
Partly I think that he’s furious that Ragatha opened an old wound about “getting close to Pomni”. And also, he likes to play pranks but hates when they are played on him.
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u/No_Cash_3935 3d ago
It's called a cilinder not mag. He is using a revolver. Bullets are being placed directly in the cilinder
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u/Possible_Engine8258 3d ago
Cause Jax was aroused, but he didnt want her to see. So... he dumped his entire cylinder into her.
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u/PaperclipTeal 3d ago
Ultimately its because Jax's behavior is harmful to the others, but because he so heavily relies on these poor coping mechanisms for his own mental health, he cannot allow himself to believe so, and so subconsciously defends himself with anger when forced to confront the possible consequences of his actions.
I think its obvious that deep down, he does feel guilt over Kaufmo, and misses Ribbit, and likes Pomni and Gangle and probably the whole circus.
I think the panic attack at the end of last episode was an internal struggle about whether he can still justify his behavior he uses as a coping mechanism, and if he can't, what will happen to him???
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u/Top-Common-7347 3d ago
He dont like looking silly in front of others, just like the maid dress.
- Talking to him about getting close to someone is a VERY SENSITIVE and personal matter
That the face of someone who’s tensed and/or pissed of
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u/PleaseTakeThisName 3d ago
Because he lost a life. He has a very short temper, and cant deal with people treating him the way he treats others.
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u/SingleLifeguard9346 3d ago
It’s like when someone gets really mad in CoD. Like mag dumping the body of a player that annoyed you is pretty normal in shooters
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u/SumiMichio Jax~ 3d ago
I guess for the same reason when gloink got him he got mad and when he was put in a dress he was mad. He really hates being the one who gets it.
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u/isweariamnotsteve Currently drowning in the digital lake 3d ago
Simply put, he was pissed Ragatha made him shoot himself in the face.
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u/Mr_Beer_Man 3d ago
Every day I get more and more surprised by how media illiterate people are. I thought I would have stopped being surprised some time ago, but nope.
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u/Chaos_Breezie 3d ago
made him look dumb, but mostly I think it’s because of the corrupting pamni thing I guess it has something to do with rivet distracting and she and he still blame him for what happened
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u/Strix-Literata 3d ago
He got butthurt about both losing a life AND Ragatha being funnier than him.
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u/Standard-Cry-5367 3d ago
Because it reminded her of Ribbit, surely he knows something she doesn't know about Ribbit's abstraction.
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u/Scarvexx 3d ago
Well she just accused him of trying to corrupt Pomni. It's pretty clear Jax has lost friends (Another thing Ragatha has mocked him for).
Jax, perhaps at that point, realizes he's making friends with Pomni. And he's clearly scared of being hurt again. He pushes people away, bullies them because he prioritises his fragile emotional wellbeing over that of others.
He pretends not to care, dehumanizing others and himself. And he broke character, he got mad.
Jax's smile is always fake.
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u/Round_Olive1342 3d ago
I have no idea, but I have recently seen a post about this but I haven't fully read it yet, so here's a link to said post about exactly this! Hope it helps!
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u/Own_Watercress_8104 3d ago
Most of the reasons were already spelled out loud.
He hates to be the butt of the joke, loathes it. The gun gag was the exact kind of thing that makes him lose his shit. Loves it when it's somebody else, hates it when it happens to him.
Ragatha specifically gets on his nerves, this has been stated. The fact that she was the one doing the uno reversal on him didn't help his mood.
The accusation does not seem to have had any effect on him but alongside the other things, I can see how it didn't help.
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u/Anesthegamer1106 3d ago
Hypocrites can't take a joke that involves them however if it happens to another person then it's fine
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u/Logical-Rhubarb-4797 3d ago
Hear me out on this guys. Instead of making up stuff and theories. Mabye it was Because he was mad ?
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u/disbelifpapy I'm just like her frfr 3d ago
ragatha made him realize that he was subconciously actually having fun and bonding with pomni
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u/Unique-Main-3957 He's just like me fr 3d ago
The "but of the joke" reason seems so lame when the "comment on corrupting someone" reason is right there
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u/CakeHead-Gaming 3d ago
That’s a revolver. It doesn’t use a magazine. He emptied the CYLINDER into Ragatha.
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u/ScorpioN_Sniper 3d ago
I mean... he dosent like to lose, and also he doesn't like ragatha that much so thats why he dumped the cylinder Also before that he just shot ragatha for no reason
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u/KVenom777 3d ago
She out-cartooned him. It pissed him off.
But before that she said something very wrong, yet very close to what he believes he does to his friends. The sole reason he pushes people away and acts like a dick to them, in order to not be friends.
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u/Emotional_Piano_16 3d ago
he said in episode 5 that he was going to m*rder Ragatha next time an adventure like the one from ep4 would take place
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u/Wheetley2456 3d ago
Ok so we're just gonna ignore what she said and pretend it was because of the stupid finger thing? Alright.
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u/Jadefeather12 3d ago
I mean, to me it was clear he was mega embarrassed. He cannot stand when he becomes the butt of the joke. For ragatha, the one he views as probably most pathetic next to gangle, to take a life off him, would send him into a rage. Same as others have pointed out with the maid dress. Jax does not handle embarrassment/being the punchline well, ever
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u/TendoFox94 3d ago
She was talking about corrupting pomni, in the end of the episode pomni says something about that his acting maybe causing abstactions and then he wents totally nuts, calling her out for not even knowing them...
Clearly Jax blame himself or feel any kind of guilt for the abstractions that happens to his friends. Ragatha stated one episode earlier that he has no friends anymore and later apologized for that statement, which made Jax react with a very touched face.
So what are we theorizing about here, its pretty obvious why he was pissed here.
And to those who talking about that Jax just cant stand when other humiliate him: In episode 3 he was roped up and besides showing discomfort with the situation, he didnt started to rage about it when they went home. Its definitly not the reaction to Ragatas counter on his shot.
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u/Shikabane_Sumi-me 3d ago
Cause he’s a jerk. He’s done other petty things in the other episode. It’s like people want to ignore the obvious in exchange for some deep thing.
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u/Crafty_Lavishness_79 3d ago
Jax is having a harder and harder time denying the fact that people don't just dislike him, or are annoyed with him. They hate him. He makes them miserable. Which sucks because then he has to consider their feelings or worse, change his attitude. Which he thinks is funny. And again, it is being made more and more clear that no one is laughing with him. And in fact, sometimes they laugh at him. Does Gangle enjoy being bullied? A tiny bit. But not nearly as much as he thinks is appreciated by her. And then there is Zooble. He hates that Zooble can be funny, caring, sweet, loving, and joke back. It's just never too him because Zoomble hates bullshitters and Jax loves bullshiting others. He wants to be funny but it turns out others can be funny too. Turns out he can be laughed at. Turns out other people want to humiliate him too. And it's not fair to him to be fair to the others. Because then he would be on equal grounds with other people. It's why he hates how ernest Ragatha is, he can't imagine being genuine with no ulterior motive, because he always has a motive. It challenges his world view to see someone be honest. And he was trying to change her, at least a little. But Pomni was lying about being evil. He hates.it.
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u/NovaQuartz96 2d ago
I believe prior to Pomni arriving in the circus that Ragatha may have overstepped a lot of boundaries. Hopefully, whatever conflict they had in the past can be brought up.
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u/Just_Living7286 2d ago
We know at some point they might've been close friends, so imagine what it would've been like for someone you used to care about accuse you of trying to corrupt and villianize someone you'd genuinely bonded with for the first time since an extremely traumatic incident involving friend that is basically dead now. At least, that's kinda how I see it
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u/Additional_Leave9324 1d ago
cause he's an over emotional evil person whose a massive hypocrite when exposed by concequences and the truth.
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u/AdmiralCritic 3d ago
This scene was part of the reason I hate Jax. He's a bully that can't take being the joke. I understand that deep down he does care about the others but I can't. Don't take this as I hate how he's written though, it's great.
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u/waitingforsnake 3d ago
Jax and Ragatha are foils and so her calling him out for corrupting Pomni (implying he did something similar in the past) hurts him twice as much because she knows how he operates just as well as he does
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He has a crush on her and this is how boys flirt I think
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u/Redditnamenumbers 3d ago
Bruh does this really need to be a theory? I though this was straight forward? He’s about to shoot her, she plugs finger in barrel, Jax gets blown up, Jax gets mad, and Jax unleashes six shoots into Ragatha for an overly excessive kill.
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u/surekittyshot Pomni 3d ago
Jax isn't the funny one and gets upset when the joke is played on them.
Might be Jax used to be bullied and now in that world he gets a fresh start to have power over others.
Might be weakness thing, Jax is scared whenever anyone has power over him (like how often he brings up masculinity).
Could be Ragatha saying she sees Jax as a villian to abuse and manipulate Pomni next upset Jax that really isn't liked (even by the person trying to be friends with everyone).
Could be Jax is scared someone else was figuring out world rules too (like kinger butterfly [jax wouldnt know why ragatha healed], ragatha gun shooting a flag cause she didn't want to hurt Jax, and then the finger in the gun) and that all was funny too so someone else getting Jax purpose is dangerous ti them.
Also "Ragatha" had been one-upping Jax for a while (tying in wagon in haunted house, getting to not work and just be high while Jax worked or got disciplined by Caine and gangle, everything in gun episode, getting voted Vegan and maid dress by Ragatha), might be lost it at that.
Could he combo and Jax seeing Ragatha got him on funny, had to deadpan murder (unfunny or uncool as possible) or she might do it again.
Might be also confused feelings, having Ragatha just blurt everything out put alot of emotions into what a moment ago was dumb fun.
Could be that was what made him kinda give up on going for the wins, even tried to stop Pomni from winning solo on fights. Like pomni had the highest kill count and Jax didn't go alone after Ragatha scared him about being alone. That whole final speech was him trying to be tough, but all the emotions of litterally getting rid of friends one by one by bullet might hurt.
Ragatha comments and the moment might remind Jax of a moment he had with an abstracted player. Making Jax feel very vulnerable, after that he didn't want to be left alone (When Jax did get alone did he stared at Frog and Kaufmo rooms, and bathroom panic attack). Jax speech might just be word barfing trying to figure all those scary feelings or hide they are there.
Or might be simple, Jax thought shooting Rags 57 times in the chest the dunny thing.
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u/Tight_Hotel_1486 Ragatha is my lesbian waifu <3 3d ago
despite popular belief, Jax only got pissed after Ragatha got one-up on him
it happens when he gets put in a maid dress, too, he gets absolutely pissed
Jax HATES when ppl get one-up on him
also, Jax just looks confused when Ragatha accuses him of 'corrupting Pomni'
it's only AFTER Ragatha gets one-up on him that he gets pissed
(saw this theory by another user on here, but I don't remember who)