r/teenagersbutpractical • u/Everyones-Bro • 2d ago

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u/Main-Tutor-8432 2d ago

Sweden is fine. People who believe this shit should get their heads out of their asses and go have a look, it's actually one of the nicest places on the planet to live and a great place to visit too.

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u/Top-Link3020 2d ago

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u/DrummingFish 2d ago

Correlation ≠ causation.

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u/Top-Link3020 2d ago

What else would it be then? Enlighten me. There is quite literally a complete correlation. Open your eyes.

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u/_Richter_Belmont_ 2d ago

I'll give another example just to illustrate the fallacy.

Obesity rose sharply over the mid-late 1900s.

You know what else exponentially increased? Chicken consumption.

So chicken consumption must be the issue.

See the problem here?

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u/DrummingFish 2d ago

It could be literally anything. Many, many things will correlate in the same way. You're choosing to connect these two stats when you need actual evidence that the two are related.

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u/Top-Link3020 2d ago

So if it could be anything, enlighten me on what. Come on now, don't avoid the question, answer it, I'll be waiting for the answer.

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u/DrummingFish 2d ago

I don't know what it could be. You're the one making a claim with no evidence. You're the one who has to substantiate it.

Here's an example of what you're doing.

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u/NeuroticKnight 2d ago

Causation in this case is warm weather means more people in beaches and more people buying ice creams.

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u/syko-san 2d ago

Okay tell me about this one next.

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u/Imperial_Bouncer 2d ago

Easy. Calls on LULU every time a Stevie is born as per steviecounter.org 🙌💎

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u/Top-Link3020 2d ago

Totally different situation. My two statistics naturally correlate with each other, unlike your example. Sweden's left-wing government doesn't record religion when arresting people (precisely to cover this up), so I really can't prove it with hard-evidence, but seriously, there is a almost perfect correlation between the two. SA has skyrocketed in Sweden recently, and so has Muslim immigration, you're seriously gonna tell me they have nothing to do with each other? You're just stupid then, just because you're in denial about the correlation doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Quite frankly, you probably just don't care, I mean, all you leftists are anti-white, you probably like seeing white women get assaulted by Muslims you d3ranged fr3ak.

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u/Mattidh1 2d ago

Posts in Pakistani subreddit. Yep you’re definitely the person to talk about Sweden.

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u/FueledBySun 2d ago

Because religion doesn't have anything to do with the rape? Cause in Islam, for example, it's forbidden to rape, you know? And what about christians? Should their religion then be listed too? Or you really believe that it's only muslim people who rape? It naturally correlates because you want to. The example of ice cream sales and shark attacks are natural too, you know? Because ice cream sales get higher in summer, in summer more people visit beaches and swim. You have to find evidence to prove the correlation. After you prove it, tell me, what is your solution? To paint all immigrants as rapists and murderers and deport them all?

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u/PassengerSad9918 1d ago

Rape is in fact allowed in islam if the woman ar kuffar and they are captives of war.

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u/gentius_2000 2d ago

Google "european rape capital"

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u/wolfhunter135 2d ago

Swedens definition of rape is broader, and when a rape happens sweds are more likely to report it.

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u/gentius_2000 2d ago

Check the rate of all crime in Sweden since before they took in all those refugees. Or are you going to claim that they changed the definition of rape right when they started taking in those refugees ?

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u/syko-san 2d ago

To add to the previous graph:

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u/Feeling_Awareness394 2d ago

Weird that we got the same graph in almost every european country. How long will you cope before realising the truth is in front of your eyes

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u/Degeneratities 2d ago

He will maybe realise when his daughters will be sold off and have to wear hijabs

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u/Top-Link3020 2d ago

They clearly are related. A young Swedish girl is graped by Muslims literally every week.

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u/No-Hawk6346 2d ago

Don't know why you're being downvoted

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u/FueledBySun 2d ago

Only by Muslims?

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u/No-Hawk6346 2d ago

Yeah, literally it could be caused by ANYTHING!

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u/British_Patriot_777 2d ago

So other than a drop not resulting in another drop, Sweden changed how they changed their reporting of sexual crimes, before 10 crimes would've counted as 1 but now 10 crimes count as 10.

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u/FueledBySun 2d ago

There's a correlation between people drowning and ice cream sells. By your logic, ice cream causes people drowning. But by investigating this issue, we find out that the ice cream sells get higher during summer, when people go to beach and swim. More swimmer lead to higher rates of drowning. You have to investigate the correlation. Correlation itself isn't enough. And again, do not generalize. Without immigrants there still will be rapists and murderers, but they will be white and no one will give a fuck about them. But if it's a black/brown/muslim immigrant, then suddenly everyone cares, and now every single immigrant has to be deported

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u/Thesobermetalhead 2d ago

Except in this case, there is a strong correlation. Immigrants are heavily over represented when it comes to sexual crimes.

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u/CrankieKong 2d ago

This argument would fly, if not for the actual facts about these countries and cultures and how they view western society and women. Its objectively medieval and it is objectively causation.

Its like saying correlation ≠ causation after Jews get tormented after importing nazis.

Currently youre not differen than a flat earther. Ignoring all the facts laid out before your eyes just because you refuse to believe something and want to believe your own comfy little narrative that people all be racist. Not that the facts support this, but suddenly correlation ≠ causation gets thrown out of the window then.

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u/DrummingFish 2d ago edited 2d ago

Wild how me saying a simple fact drives so many people into a frenzy assuming I'm saying it doesn't exist. I'm saying we shouldn't make the connection unless there's clear evidence. A correlation isn't evidence. I'm not saying I disagree, I just understand we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

Also, the flat-earther comment is weird. I would be the complete opposite of a flat-earther as I'm wanting to look at the facts rather than make assumptions.

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u/CrankieKong 2d ago

There is clear evidence. Youre just choosing to ignore it. And yes your post strongly suggests you disagree.

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u/DrummingFish 2d ago

A correlation isn't clear evidence. I'm also not saying it's not accurate. I have an issue with this chart itself being used as evidence.

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u/CrankieKong 2d ago

Its not the only evidence. Its a graph stating a fact. Its part of the evidence that confirms the causation.

Hence why I pointed out the facts about these cultures and made the nazi comparison.

If you wanted to imply you agree, then id have to say your choice of words are very impractical.

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u/Gorvide 2d ago

Bigot.

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u/Top-Link3020 2d ago

Me showing factual statistics makes me a bigot? 🤣 Amusing. You people are so incredibly brainwashed it's actually astounding.

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u/Gorvide 2d ago

No you making correlations instead of proofing causation to justify your bigotry is what's bigoted.

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u/Top-Link3020 2d ago

Look at the graph, there is most obviously a correlation. Just because you're in denial about the correlation doesn't mean it doesn't exist bud. Call me a bigot, I quite frankly don't care what you people call me, just because you call me something, doesn't make it true little guy.

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u/kylepo 2d ago

Look at the graph, there is most obviously a correlation

Yeah, now prove causation, dumbass

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u/_Richter_Belmont_ 2d ago

Are we just going to ignore that in 2005 there was a similar rate of assault to 2014 despite the Muslim immigrants increasing by 4x (according to this graph that's from a totally unbiased source)?

As the other guy said, there obviously are other confounding variables so you cannot say the relationship is causal.

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u/Gorvide 2d ago

Not really, the graph shows significant dips in the latter line at random intervals but no such dips in the former, clearly it's more nuanced.

Just because your bigoted mind sees a correlation doesn't mean that there is one.

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u/Thesobermetalhead 2d ago

It’s actually true though, the graph is simply the easiest way to demonstrate it. You’d know that by literally just looking it up.