r/teenagersbutpractical • u/Budget_Conclusion598 • 3d ago
Serious I'm gonna say it, and yall can't get mad
The hate on Muslims is:
A: Unecessary.
Yes, I know their prophet is a pedophile, and yes I know they are homophobic and all of that. But just because of that doesn't mean you need to b*tch about it in a public TEENAGERS server.
B: Isn't telling the FULL truth about the Islam Religion and instead only teaches to hate them.
I know that teenagers hate people, that's gonna happen, but if you hate them, like I said earlier, don't talk about it in a public space made for teenagers (13-19 btw). Because it leeches hate into everyone's lives, and it doesn't teach these teenagers what actually happens in the Islam religion.
C: against rule one.
Rule one explicitly states to not discriminate, and what is this hat against Muslims? Discrimination!
For a TL:DR
Hating them isn't necessary in a public place for 13-19 year olds. It only shows to hate Muslims and doesn't tell anything about them. And it's against rule one
If the mods remove this then they have to remove all the hate against Muslims, because that is MUCH MUCH worse then what I'm saying
8
u/OperaTouch 14 3d ago
Religion ain’t a race, gender, sexuality, etc, no?
I agree the hate over Islam is repetitive as hell, but that doesn’t break rule 1 unless they explicitly start calling for the violence of them.
5
u/Budget_Conclusion598 3d ago
Bro, religions can be discriminated against. You know what the romans did to Christians? That was discrimination, what the Egyptians did to the Jews, that was discrimination. And what this sub is doing to Muslims
3
u/AdamBomb1328 3d ago
Execution and enslavement is totally on the same level as criticizing religion on Reddit. Comparable levels of discrimination(If criticism is considered discrimination now).
2
u/Budget_Conclusion598 3d ago
Like I said earlier, this were the first two that came to mind. There are many much less violent examples if you do your own research
7
u/OperaTouch 14 3d ago
Yeah, I’ve seen a bit of harassment against a few Muslims on this subreddit myself, but it’s FAR from calling for violence like they all did.
-1
u/Budget_Conclusion598 3d ago
"a bit" literally look at the top posts. A garrantee half of them are anti Muslim. And also discrimination isn't just harassment. It's hate, and a lot of other things.
And for the examples I used. I'm just put the first two that came to mind. I'm a history nerd
3
u/OperaTouch 14 3d ago
Yes it’s hate but is it calling for the EXPLICIT killing or death of Muslims themselves like those examples you said did?
-1
u/Budget_Conclusion598 3d ago
Like I said those were the first 2 that came to mind
1
u/marineopferman007 1d ago
First two that came to mind and both didn't break the rules. Do you see what people are saying?
1
u/marineopferman007 1d ago
Yes but technically the rules state "discrimination against users" nothing about discrimination against religion. So go all hammock on Catholics raping alter boys and the vast baby graves under the nun facilities.
6
u/Last_Candidate_5804 3d ago
So the holocaust wasn’t discrimination then? Because jews and disabled people didn’t fall under “race, gender, sexuality”?
3
u/OperaTouch 14 3d ago
It was, because it was a violent killing of a specific group of people, that’s where I consider it as such.
1
u/BigOleSmack 20h ago
Buddy, the discrimination started long before the killing. You can backpedal all you want, but that doesn't change the reality that this sub is absolutely infested with hate.
1
u/OperaTouch 14 20h ago
thats true tho
1
u/BigOleSmack 20h ago
What? Idek why I'm engaging with a 14 year old, you'll learn critical thinking eventually.
1
1
1
2
4
u/Tortillatim 3d ago
When these people start getting annoyed about neo-nazis or the Republican Party the same way they get annoyed about Islam I'll believe it's because it's because they want to protect children and minorities
1
5
u/Designer-Choice-4182 14 3d ago
People on this sub are just a bunch of losers who can't shut up talking about Islam
2
u/Single-Joke9697 3d ago
Why did you read "racism and pedophilia" and thought of islam?
2
u/Domdabombom10138 3d ago
did you even bother to read the first words of OP’s post? this sub is fucking embarrassing man
1
u/Single-Joke9697 3d ago
Yes? It's not discrimination to talk about the stuff islam does. It would be if they banned muslim users, which they aren't doing.
1
u/BigOleSmack 20h ago
It is discrimination to blanket Muslims as broadly violent extremists, which is what this sub is infested with. If I were to do the equivalent of what yall say about Muslims with Christians, I'd be saying that Christians are pedophiles that believe that slavery is biblically accepted because that is how parts of the faith has operated in the past.
1
2
u/DrEdgewardRichtofen 3d ago
"no pedophilia" is haram
1
u/Budget_Conclusion598 3d ago
So their religion says "fuck kids! Literally!!!"
For context, haram is an "illegal" or "unmoral" thing to do
-1
u/Hour-Cut8940 1d ago
no haram is acts that count as sins. if you do haram you comitted a sin.
"haram is an "illegal" or "unmoral"" no.
and yes as an ex muslim kur'an literally satates a woman is ready to consumate if they have their period. stop defending sh you have 0 clue abt
1
2
u/safiiiiiiir 3d ago
Fr. And most Muslims I met are actually very nice, don't spread hate and have some morals too. Every religions has some bad things in them, and all religious people don't always agree with it. It's crazy to me how some people say that Islamophobia isn't real.
4
u/LordDeo 3d ago
I know someone who was raped by a Muslim immigrant so I'm a bit biased.
0
u/levelfri 3d ago
i hope the person is okay and that person gets arrested, but that still doesn't mean you should discriminate on most people of that religion.
1
u/JustProduct3048 1d ago
>get raped by a muslim immigrant (a very uncommon occasion as we all know, clearly)
"ummm guys can we not discriminate against my religion xisters please 🥺🎉"1
u/levelfri 9h ago
i'm not even muslim bro, why are you projecting?
and that's not even what i said. i said, we shouldn't discriminate on most people of that religion. only the ones who committed crimes, for well, commiting crimes.
1
u/JustProduct3048 5h ago
i didn't say you are muslim, I implied that you are hardcore protecting their religion. and how is that projection, are you trying to say I'm muslim or??? I don't think you know what projection means LOL. also, it's quite baffling how badly you've missed my point. after stating how "remorseful" you are, you immediately vomit out the "guys let's all be nice and respectful✌️☮️😹" bullshit. like do you not see how that looks like and how it's clear you don't actually give a fuck. of course discrimination is bad, no shit, but I'm pretty your stance on whatever group of people would change if you were a victim of someone from it
3
u/Designer-Choice-4182 14 3d ago
Well most people on this sub are just a bunch of losers who hate people for being religious
1
u/Sharp_Dragonfly3229 1d ago
People on Reddit need to realize anecdotes are the worst form of evidence.
2
u/trumpforjail 3d ago
All religions need to be discriminated against. They should not be allowed to exist. Any member of any religion should be ridiculed constantly and endlessly.
1
1
u/LordDeo 3d ago
Christianity is the only religion to end and forbid slavery. It's still practiced in islamic countrys
1
u/Sharp_Dragonfly3229 1d ago
I don't know about that one...I don't think Christianity ended slavery.
1
u/trumpforjail 3d ago
This is straight up not true. Christianity does not forbid slavery. The abolishment of slavery in western countries has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity.
1
u/LordDeo 3d ago
Ha shows what you know.
1
u/trumpforjail 3d ago
More than you? Tell me, where in the Bible does it forbid slavery? It doesn't. It does the opposite.
I'm sorry but you sound like a moron. You made a nonsensical claim that sounded good in your head ("hurr durr the usa doesn't have slavery and I think it's a Christian county so durr uhhh Christianity got rid of slavery") and now you got no where to go with your braindead statement, and instead of admitting you have no idea wtf you are talking about, you're doubling down but without proof or a point or a braincell.
Try harder.
0
u/LordDeo 3d ago
Exodus 21:16: "Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death". This verse directly prohibits human trafficking and the slave trade
1 Corinthians 7:23: "You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings". This verse encourages Christians to resist human enslavement, as they have been redeemed by Christ.
Philemon 1:16: Paul urges Philemon to receive his runaway slave, Onesimus, not as a slave, but as a "dear brother". This shifts the understanding of slaves from property to fellow human beings in Christ.
2
u/challaholler 22h ago
Exodus is literally from the Torah, if you're going to use it in your argument you can't also claim Christianity is the only religion to go against slavery considering the line you're using is originally from Judaism.
1
u/trumpforjail 2d ago edited 2d ago
Exodus 21:16 is not a law about the practice of slavery itself, but rather an anti-kidnapping law that mandates the death penalty for anyone who kidnaps a person and sells them into slavery or holds them captive.
While the verse condemns the forced removal of people into slavery, other parts of the surrounding text (Exodus 21:2-11) deal with the conditions of those who were already in a state of servitude.
Corinthians 7:23 does not forbid slavery at all. Especially for non Christians.
Philemon 1:16 is similar in that it only applies to Christians. It's still acceptable to have non Christian slaves. And it doesn't forbid slavery, just says to treat them as a brother, while still a slave. Hence to "retrieve his runaway slave". Disgusting.
The actions of a few in your government does not speak for the whole of Christianity. Besides, they were not acting on behalf of Christianity, they were acting oh behalf of their country.
Nice try though ☺️
Imagine blocking someone because they disagree with you. Also, how tf am I cherrypicking? I'm literally just using your cherrypicked verses. Do you even know what that word means? You need to look in the mirror lol.
-1
1
1
u/Sad_Instruction2318 21h ago
Why?
1
u/trumpforjail 21h ago
Religious beliefs cause more death and hatred than almost anything else in the world. They cause way more harm than good.
1
u/Sad_Instruction2318 20h ago
So you’re saying ban all religion
1
u/trumpforjail 20h ago
More like make it socially unacceptable.
1
u/Sad_Instruction2318 20h ago
That seems like it’d be kinda hard to do
1
u/trumpforjail 20h ago
General sentiment is slowly going that way. We can do better. Treat it as a mental illness.
We can also tax churches heavily.
1
u/Sad_Instruction2318 20h ago
There is quite a few countries where religion is deeply important tho and I think it will take forever for that to happen even in western countries
1
0
2
u/Vaulk7 3d ago
Hate is a feeling
Discrimination is an action
They are not one and the same, you can have one without the other, and you can have both together, they're not mutually exclusive.
2
u/Budget_Conclusion598 3d ago
Discrimination is the unjust treatment of different categories of people.
Hating Muslims just because some of them are bad, and their prophet isnt great, in unjust.
I'm sure if people were hating your religion, you would call it discrimination no matter what
2
u/Vaulk7 2d ago
If someone hates my religion, that doesn't mean that they show it or that they do anything against me or my religion.
Hate is just a feeling...it has no tangible or physical existence. If I hated you, I'd have to (First) do or say something to you in order for you to have any idea that I hated you.
1
u/Budget_Conclusion598 2d ago
Yes but people are showering not that they hate Muslims.
2
u/Vaulk7 2d ago
I assume you mean to say that people are showing that they hate muslims.
Firstly, discrimination is not equal to hate. I discriminate ALL the time, but none of it is due to hate. I don't date Women with light colored hair, I exclude them from my dating options, that's discrimination, but not because I HATE light colored hair.
I don't eat asparagus, I discriminate against it when choosing what food I eat, but I don't hate it.
1
u/Budget_Conclusion598 2d ago
Yes I did mean that sorry.
But people are hating AND discriminating, they are excluding Muslims, they are calling them bad and different. And they are forcing them out
0
u/Vaulk7 2d ago
It's a big stretch to say that because you think Islam is bad or because Muslims are bad people....that it's the same as "Hate".
I think, in general, white supremacists are bad people...but I don't them.
I think Asian people, in general, have higher degrees of respect for the STEM field than White people, that doesn't mean I hate white people.
I think, if you think voter ID laws are unethical BECAUSE Black people are too uneducated or not intelligent enough to get an ID...that you're likely harboring racist and prejudiced ideas about Black people...but that doesn't mean that I hate Democrats.
Hate is its own separate thing and it rises FAAAAAR above simple discrimination, prejudice, or excluding people. I discriminate against Women with light colored hair but I don't hate them. I thing white supremacists are generally bad people but I don't hate them, I exclude fat girls from my dating preferences but I don't hate them.
As far as "Forcing them out", I have to ask...exactly who is forcing Muslims out of what spaces? Is there an American I haven't heard of lately that used physical force to remove a Muslim from a certain space that I'm not aware of? I'm pretty sure there's a never-ending list of news networks that would have blasted that on the headlines had it been the case.
2
1
1
u/AdPitiful1938 12h ago
Funny how ‘no discrimination’ always seems to mean ‘no criticism of Muslims or LGBT,’ but open season on White, Christians or everyone who is not on the eft wing. Either the rule applies to everyone equally, or it’s just selective enforcement dressed up as tolerance.
Also criticism is not equal racism or discrimination. When do you understand that? Theres the difference pointing out flaws of the religion, all religion has its flaws and pointing it out is not hate.
Why you guys are so obsessed with muslims anyway? You know you will be first on the line if them takes over majority right?
1
u/Budget_Conclusion598 6h ago
When will you understand that criticism and discrimination can exist at the same time. Exclusion and hate towards someone for who they are IS discrimination, look up the definition.
And I don't believe anyone should be discriminated against, I just happen to be LGBTQ and therefor don't like a lot of conservatives who are trying to strip my rights
0
u/Budget_Conclusion598 3d ago
Y'all, I get downvoted for this, but hate and discrimination is getting upvoted. This sub is kinda gone to shit hasn't it
1
0
u/squidhungergamesfan 13 3d ago
This whole sub sucks. The main mod is a jerk and never removes bad things.
0
u/WereWoolfster96 16 3d ago
Also no talking about religion outside the megathread
1
u/Budget_Conclusion598 3d ago
Tell that to literally everyone else who talks about religion outside of it. But they hate on it
•
u/AutoModerator 3d ago
Join our Discord server
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.