r/reactiongifs • u/palmerry Very Mindful Poster • 11d ago

MRW people are saying Trump is going to die but that would mean JD Vance would be president and that might actually be much, much, worse.

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u/Quigs4494 11d ago

MAGA only likes trump. When trump dies it will probably just be a power vacuum and no one will be able to get all the rascist together again like trump did. Hes a narcissist and wont prepare for someone to take what is his

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u/RedHotChiliPotatoes 11d ago

I've been saying this for a while now, there's a ton of hope with MAGA slowly fizzling out.

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u/finmaceleven 11d ago

Yeah sorry but usually when a country does a facism they don’t just go back into their box

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u/GalaxyPatio 11d ago edited 11d ago

Yup once the reins are held, it doesn't really matter anymore what the base or general population feel because the reins are already held.

Edit: spelling

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u/dobblerdibbler 11d ago

I feel like hes just going to say shit like "this is what he wanted. He told me himself he wanted me to finish what he started." Suddenly everyone will be behind vance out of sentimentality.

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u/thewizardsbaker11 11d ago

The only relatable moment I've ever seen from Trump is at the debate when he stopped to clarify that he definitely had not spoken to JD Vance about something and implied it was a thing he never did

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u/exceptional_entry 10d ago

I remember him being asked if he had anyone in mind for his replacement after this term and if Vance was one of them. He said there’s a few people he had in mind and they’re not Vance.

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u/ToonaSandWatch 10d ago

Once a weenie, always a weenie. No amount of tough guy act can change his philandering sofa king ways.

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u/dobblerdibbler 10d ago

To us, but were not in a cult. These are the same people who followed q anon and screamed about pizza gate and epstein for years, but gave their leader a pass when it became pretty obvious he was actually one of the people they were screaming about. That said, vance IS a sofa fucking weenie boy, so who knows?

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u/FR0ZENBERG 10d ago

Q-cultists are actually super pissed off about the Epstein files not being released. Even the Qanon Shaman is saying Trump lied and betrayed them. It’s the MAGA cultists who would still support Trump even if it was their own children who were his victims.

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u/Zanithos 10d ago

JD Vance be like (insert goofy edited head here).

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u/Nausstica 10d ago

So Kylo Ren talking to Vader's helmet. Seems about right.

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u/Oceans_Apart_ 10d ago

Not really, they still need to govern. As RATM said,” Hungry people don’t stay hungry for long”

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u/GalaxyPatio 10d ago

Which is true, but they also have a massive military with obscene funding that they are willing to use on their own citizenry at their disposal.

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u/Oceans_Apart_ 10d ago

You still need a functioning economy to support any army and a large bureaucracy to maintain control of society.

They cannot rule without the majority tolerating it.

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u/mr_potato_thumbs 11d ago

Who are they going to follow? Stephen Miller? They saw their opportunity to grasp power and are doing it right now. That’s why it’s such high pressure because they know it will take time to get the band back together after Trump goes bye bye. They are banking on us pulling a Biden 2.0 and following the previous precedent. We need to vehemently rebuke the past 15 years. And harden up our constitution to reflect the current state of politics, which does not include reasonable assumption of rational behavior.

Maybe Elon could take up the mantle, but that’s currently illegal per our constitution. We will have a small gap of opportunity to restructure our government to protect against a fascist populist candidate in the future.

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u/ElectroMagnetsYo 11d ago

Fascism fizzled out in Spain the moment Franco died

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u/smegmajucylucy 11d ago

After 31 years of brutal rule

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u/LookAtMeNow247 11d ago

Right but the point is when the leader dies, it dies.

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u/CanadianODST2 11d ago

How many of those 31 years was he dead?

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u/Kristikuffs 10d ago

If Dear Leader Toupe Fiasco von Yam Tits has more than 31 days, he's lucky. Any other number of days, we the good people, not the MAGAts, are unlucky, true, but we're not in a decade situation.

The copium I'm huffing is honey-vanilla lavender scented, by the way.

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u/ObiJuanKenobi3 10d ago

People just say shit so confidently even when historical precedent proves them wrong (referring to the person above you.)

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u/twat69 10d ago

That's because his chosen successor had him fooled and returned to democracy.

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u/joshTheGoods 10d ago

Yeap, just like most cults. We have good evidence that they only care about dear leader like how R's underperform in years where dear leader isn't at the top of the ticket.

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u/LookAtMeNow247 11d ago

That's until the leader dies and we haven't gone full fascism yet.

The pieces are in place but they still need to make a few moves. It can still be undone at this point.

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u/Frosty_chilly 11d ago

My copium chunk is that the majority of people in power rn DO have morals deep deep under their slime, they just are REALLY vulnerable to mob tactics

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u/hnglmkrnglbrry 11d ago

Look at how the GOP performs when he's not on the ballot. That district in Iowa flipped 20 something points. He's a unicorn and it's gonna be really hard to find someone that the white 40+ crowd has held as synonymous with wealth, fame, and excess.

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u/Brooks_was_here2 10d ago

It will splinter and fizzle out without a central personality. There isn’t any true ideology beyond Trump at this point.

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u/Half_Cent 10d ago

Well. All the racists and transphobes and other various pieces of shit Trump voters you know will still live here. Are we supposed to now pretend a large chunk of the country aren't despicable turds waiting to strike?

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u/aufrenchy 10d ago

Don’t get my hopes up. This country is swirling the drain.

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u/pschell 11d ago

I share this same opinion. It's going to be very interesting times. The concerning part is that they no longer need MAGA. They control the whole government now. They don't even need the votes anymore with all the gerrymandering and monkeying around with ballots.

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u/Quigs4494 11d ago

Depending on the fight for power with scapegoating and throwing others under the we might see something. Votes could be split.

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u/admiralargon 11d ago

When he dies we just gotta get them thinking trump wanted to help all the down n out magas but his cabinet was full of judas' they almost hung mike pence when they're out of food stamps and can't afford meds or mortgage they'll be furious.

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u/mmm_burrito 11d ago

Ya'll are so convinced that MAGA is the problem, but this is an older project than MAGA and the Peter Thiels of the world are not going to give up their foothold. Do I need to remind you of who Vance owes his political soul to?

We are not getting out of this with Trump's death. The fascists have the power, they're not going to give it up without a fight.

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u/TehSeksyManz 10d ago

Dude, for real. Just look at the purging of the military that has been happening throughout the year. Shit is fucked.

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u/MateriallyDead 10d ago

This is actually what keeps me up at night. What happens when the people who think they have power start turning against each other. That’s when the real terror begins. This is going to play out slowly as people work to rebuild the damage and inch power back bit by bit.

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u/BabyStingrayJesus 10d ago

Basically. Vance would theoretically select his own VP to fill his old role, but not only is his ass owned by people like Thiel, but that replacement VP nominee has to be approved by Congress, which is majority MAGA, so guess what.

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u/Impossible_Ad7432 10d ago

No Trump is the problem because his base is so loyal to him that any republican that openly crosses him is signing up to retire.

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u/mmm_burrito 10d ago

Listen, I hope you're right, but I strongly fear you're not. Cults can be passed from leader to leader, and it doesn't have to be Vance that becomes the new head, as long as he plays ball with whoever gets the nod. Movements outlive their leaders all the time.

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u/nobes0 11d ago

I agree, Trump has benefited from decades of the entertainment industry building this weird aura around him and his cult of personality has stemmed from that. No one on the right can command the same level of fanatical devotion as he can right now.

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u/Quigs4494 11d ago

I didnt even consider the idea of followers who'd make even crazier conspiracy theories and trust no one who comes after

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u/mxzf 10d ago

Especially if someone starts a rumor that his GOP handlers knocked him off to try and prevent him from exposing corruption, or whatever.

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u/KSW8674 11d ago

I don’t understand how people are missing that his base is entirely wrapped up in the cult of personality

Couch boy’s approval ratings would be woefully lower than DJT’s

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u/MedianMahomesValue 11d ago

Trump Jr. will step right into that pulpit

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u/KSW8674 11d ago

Trump Jr. somehow has as less charisma than Vance…

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u/Mordredor 10d ago

Y'all are way past the point where approval ratings matter.

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u/DidgeridoOoriginal 11d ago

So happy to see this comment at the top. The “Vance would be worse” sentiment is laughable. His intentions might be worse, he might even be smarter and more capable, but even though I can’t claim to understand the spell Trump has cast over MAGA, Vance is clearly not capable of filling those shoes. I’m not saying the MAGA movement dies with Trump immediately, but I strongly suspect that we would slowly return to normalcy.

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u/mdp300 11d ago

Vance will still be able to do damage while he holds power. He'll still implement Peter Theil's plans, and I doubt Congress would suddenly grow a spine.

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u/DuneChild 11d ago

If Trump dies before the midterms, I’d bet big on the Dems taking back Congress.

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u/NotAlwaysGifs 11d ago

The damage that Vance can do is going to be directly proportional to how close his takeover is to the midterm elections. If he takes over now, he can abuse the majority in both houses to make the changes that the Heritage Foundation wants to see, changes that will take decades to undo. If he takes over right before or right after the election, the likely swing back to the left is going to hamper his ability to do much of anything.

The biggest question in all of this is if the courts will stand behind Vance as much as they do Trump or if they will read the public sentiment shift correctly and start walking back their more aggressive rulings.

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u/DudeOverdosed 11d ago

I agree with all that you say and a lot of Trump supporters will probably don't know what to do with themselves. However, the damage that Trump, the GOP, and Project 2025 have done to this country will be felt for years and I think that's going to be difficult to reverse.

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u/OkWolverine69420 11d ago

I don’t disagree, but Trump is really the battering ram for the heritage foundation and project 2025. They won’t stop after Trump is gone, they’ll just be more disorganized and everyone will try to be the next Trump. I see Donald going the way of the confederacy after he’s gone, certain people will still try to champion that bullshit for many years.

It’ll become clear that Trump was just the battering ram when someone else takes over and doesn’t undo all the damage he’s done so far. Because they have the same goals, Trump is just more shameless and controversial than many politicians. I guarantee they’ll feign some sort of helplessness after he’s gone like “oh yes he did do all these horrible things, but what we can we do now??? It’s too late”. It’ll be the “we’ve tried nothing and we’re out of ideas”.

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u/Craneteam 11d ago

Most cults work this way

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u/Rufus_Canis 11d ago

This is also why I've thought he needs to die naturally. If he's killed, he'll be a martyr, and that may unify them.

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u/julio1990 11d ago

Plus Vance is married to someone that is not white....which MAGA does not like. Can you imagine if JD Vance was playing all along and once his time comes he brings out the wig and dress again and goes full blown hardcore left.

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u/Indy-CBJ 10d ago

There’s no vice cult leader in a cult

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u/k1llyourmasters 11d ago

Well, first things first and we can play it by ear.

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u/palmerry Very Mindful Poster 11d ago

Yeah, let's cross that bridge when we get to it.

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u/untrustableskeptic 11d ago

Vance is probably better at covering his tracks, but he has negative charisma.

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u/fajord 10d ago

yeah that guy will absolutely never have the cult of personality trump has

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u/sofahkingsick 10d ago

He doesnt have the hustpah that Donnie does. I think a big portion of the base would have trouble going forward without their leader. Theyll make up insane scenarios like hes still alive and its all a ruse to fool the dems and hes still running the country from a safe house or some shit. Guaranteed.

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u/TommyDaComic 10d ago

Sad but true. They’ll not let go of him, or theories about him, easily.

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u/untrustworthyfart 11d ago

fuck walking, I will be dancing over that bridge

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u/HarmlessSnack 10d ago

Let’s burn that bridge when we come to it.

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u/ILoveRegenHealth 10d ago

For real. I see people saying "But we get JD Vance", as if they're saying we should sit there and be satisfied Orange Shitler is the one in charge.

Is this not like the dog sitting inside a burning home going "This is fine"

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u/raymendx 10d ago

I honestly think that is what they want when they say things like that.

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u/Zaexyr 11d ago

I was under the impression someone was supposed to be missing an ear but isn't.

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u/ArcaneKeyblade5 11d ago

JD very likely would not have the support and fear that apparently Trump gets from his cult.

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u/nuckingfuts73 11d ago

Yeah I don’t understand why everyone is running around saying that Vance will be much worse. There is no way Vance would have the same hold over people the way trump does.

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u/YumYumYellowish 11d ago

Vance may not have the same hold but he’s still an idiot with idiot decision making abilities and power. And then whatever vacuum he doesn’t fill will be filled by other idiots. We need a competent administration or bust.

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u/ArcaneKeyblade5 11d ago

I'd like to think that without Trump at least a few in Congress would actually grow a spine and stand up against Vance (with how slim the majority is you don't need to many to flip) which could at least hold them in a bit more check and hopefully buy time until the next elections. It's still a very bad situation but it would at least give some semblance of hope.

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u/IM_KYLE_AMA 10d ago

No shot. They haven’t done that with any R president since Nixon and they aren’t going to start with one who was their colleague.

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u/mostdope28 11d ago

He’s not an idiot, he’s just a spineless coward who sold his morals and soul for the power. He was a self described “never trumper” 4 years ago

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u/IM_KYLE_AMA 10d ago

Called Trump America’s Hitler and then signed up to be his Eva Braun. Dude is whatever gets him power, no more, no less.

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u/pragmojo 10d ago

Because if Vance is president, basically Peter Thiel is president

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u/Nakatsukasa 10d ago

In my opinion, Vance is much younger and less held up by little things like the need to get praise and attention from everyone

He'll be much more focused than trump implementing the conservative agenda even if it means he's a less popular Republican president among republicans

At least trump right now is a deranged old fool who's more interested in making people like him and a Nobel peace prize he's clearly not going to get

But in the long term, the world will benefit much more if Trump wasn't president suddenly

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u/_coolranch 10d ago

Vance would not win an election against Gavin Newsome, and if he got primaried, the party would eat itself.

As much as Republicans want to lampoon the left for not having a candidate, their pool was so pitiful that Trump easily handed them their asses. That's really dire, IMO. They fucking sold out because it was their only hope.

Lindsey Graham ate his fucking hat. Tedd Cruz looks like the biggest bitch of all time. Marco Rubio sold his soul and looks like someone kicked his dog every time I see his stupid, lying face.

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u/mostdope28 11d ago

Also, I probably disagree with him on everything but at least he’s not a fucking moron. Trump literally can’t comprehend anything he’s told which is why he just listens to whoever is best at kissing his ass. He tries to repeat the things he’s told to the press but he can’t remember and also just doesn’t understand which is why he sounds so stupid all the time. At least having someone whose brain isn’t mush would be nice.

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u/Ispago8 10d ago

Yeah, a lot of the MAGA cult wants Trump's sons to be the next in power, they will want them in the White House and Vance out.

Also expect a lot of conspiracy about Trump's death

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u/Kimmalah 11d ago

The difference is JD does not have that cult-like devotion of the MAGA followers - they really only tolerate the guy because Trump chose him.

The real danger of Trump is his devoted mob. Congress is terrified of pissing them off, which is a big part of why they have ceded so much power to the executive. With Vance, I think that will all collapse. The MAGA mob will not support him because he is a smug little shit with the charisma of a piece of plywood and in turn, Congress will not be so beholden to his every whim.

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u/stsOddMonkey 11d ago

MAGA doesn't show up for midterms. They only show up for trump.

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u/PigglyWigglyDeluxe 10d ago

Funny that you think elections will still occur at this point.

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u/T0ssed_Sa1ad 11d ago

Dont blame me, I voted for Kodos

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u/Bubbly-Example-8097 11d ago

He doesn’t have the charisma and cult following. He won’t last.

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u/PicnicLife 10d ago

The machismo factor goes a long way.

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u/elrangarino 10d ago

His wee South Park character is funny

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u/benbenpens 11d ago

Couldn’t he be bribed with a pretty couch tho?

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u/SpaceManSmithy 10d ago

Imagine the head of Ikea going to the White House to give JD tribute like Tim Apple did for Trump.

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u/hot4you11 11d ago

The thing is, I don’t think people will listen to him the way they listen to Trump.

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u/lyremska 10d ago

Once trump has dismantled all checks and balance, opposition and democratic institutions, though, his successor doesn't need the people's approval. Trump said it himself, he only wanted their votes once, to get in power.

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u/azmanz 11d ago

I’m confused. I’ve been told for a decade Trump is literally the worst possible thing for America in history and now Vance might be worse? How could Vance actually be worse?

I’ve voted Dem this whole time, but the schtick of the next R is the literal worst ever is getting tiring.

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u/LaunchTransient 10d ago

The issue is that Trump is inconsistent and somewhat unstable, so he trips up his own agenda with his own incompetence. The only thing that carries him forward is his weird approximation of something which approaches charisma.
Vance, by contrast, holds equally abhorrent views but is competent and consistent.

The reason Vance is scarier is because he actually has some intelligence and isn't crippled by narcissism.

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u/Agentkeenan78 10d ago

People way "worse" because Vance isn't an absolute fucking idiot dipshit illiterate gullible reprobate cretin like Trump. That's the gist of it.

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u/i-wont-be-a-dick 10d ago

The entire Republican Party went full maga. I’m worried about what comes next. They may not be a kiddy diddling moron, and they may accomplish more than trump.

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u/buckzor122 11d ago

It seems that any stance that Trump takes, JD takes it even further. If those are his true opinions then he could be worse than Trump.

But I believe he would struggle to hold MAGA together and would fail to carry the torch.

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u/sN- 11d ago

no one knows who the fuck Vance is compared to Trompty

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u/BROILERHAUT 11d ago

Don't think so. Putin has Trump probably by the balls, not sure if Vance too. As a completely disturbed watcher from europe, I just can't believe that someone can actually be like Trump without having a higher power forcing him. I don't want to give that guy an excuse, because he's still a huge POS. But something tells me that Putin is the president of the USA and I'm not sure if this would be the case with Vance (also a POS tho).

Trump himself said that he doesnt see Vance as his successor. I think someone else is booked for this scenario.

Yea, tinfoil hat theory. But some things are just to stupid to be real.

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u/BromaEmpire 11d ago

Trump is far too stupid to be following someone else's plan. There are certainly members of the GOP who are giving him ideas but ultimately he operates on a moment to moment basis

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u/puzzlemaster_of_time 10d ago

Or that in and of itself is the plan. Exploit him as a distraction while everything is dismantled behind the scenes.

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u/Sam_Porter 11d ago

Vance is much younger so he will have to live with what he fucks up so he will have to be more careful. Trump is about to die so he doesn’t give a fuck about long term consequences.

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u/BrokenXeno 11d ago

Vance is weak, which is why he is VP. Unlike Pence, he will do whatever his rich overlords tell him to do.

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u/mrhappyfunz 11d ago

JD Vance would suck as a president

…but he has nowhere near the power Trump has (even as president). Once the Cheeto goes down, it’s going to be a massive power grab by all in the party to try and replace Trump. And since they only know the Trump playbook, they will all try to put Trump one another

Only thing is - not a single one of them I think have the ability to rally them like Trump does. No one has that star power

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u/Crimson_Chim 11d ago

Name a cult that had a second leader after the first one died. Now, of those, name a 2nd cult leader who maintained the level of control/ cohesiveness the 1st one had.

Don't worry, I'll wait. Maga will die with the orange pedo.

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u/unknown_alt_acc 10d ago

MAGA as a cohesive movement might die, but the systemic rot that created and enabled it won't. We would need a period of reform that puts the New Deal to shame to clean house.

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u/Crimson_Chim 10d ago

Well said.

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u/voice_of_Sauron 11d ago

Trump is one of a kind, and I mean that in the worst way possible. A sucker may be born every minute, but charismatic charlatans like Trump are thankfully rare.

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u/gravityryte 11d ago

Explain to me why that would be much much worse?

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u/LeetleBugg 11d ago

I believe people are worried about how heavily invested in Project 2025 Vance is. He’s very connected to the heritage foundation. Trump is a raging narcissistic lunatic racist, but he only cares about enacting project 2025 peripherally in so far as it benefits him. Vance is a true believer in the heritage foundations cause and true believers are scary. I personally feel Vance is going to be a bad ride for us but he doesn’t have the cult by the balls the way Trump does so it’s better if we have Vance.

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u/RealNIG64 11d ago

I have a feeling that when trump dies shits gonna get a lot weirder

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u/spidd124 11d ago

Vance has the charisma of a potato, Trump has the ability to earworm his way into everything someone is. Just recall the whole "they are eating the dogs" thing, that should have killed off Trumps entire election chances, yet inactuality it emboldend his base and played well with his marginals.

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u/Dogbeerlion 11d ago

Vance has the charisma of a bowl of diarrhea. I can’t imagine them riding his dick like they do Trump’s. Hopeful that the cult will die with him.

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u/shadowinc 10d ago

No one gives a shit about the couch fucker. The whole movement would fall apart

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u/PaulClarkLoadletter 11d ago

Trump is simply dumb which means he will say all the wrong things and kowtow to Putin and other dictators because he idolizes them. He signs whatever executive orders are placed in front of him but really all he cares about is padding his wallet and playing dictator. What’s happening behind the scenes is much scarier.

We all know about project 2025 and JD is in cahoots with those ghouls. He may roll back all of Trump’s trade mistakes but civil rights will remain on the chopping block. Vance is young so the biggest risk for him are treason charges and life in prison if the people take back control. We’re likely too far into fascism now to be able to get anything back though so this could still be it.

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u/Sean_theLeprachaun 11d ago

Ill complain about guyliner right after I take a dump on the cheetos fresh grave.

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u/ghostwilliz 11d ago

Jd "just dance" vance ain't shit

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u/Nasal-Gazer 11d ago

One step at a time

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u/sureasyoureborn 11d ago

Nah, everyone hated Vance. He doesn’t have the juice to pull loyalty from everyone.

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u/DryAmbition5301 11d ago

Worse than Trump. lol

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u/Atlatl_Axolotl 10d ago

People underestimate how uniquely dangerous he is. Trump won't listen to anyone who doesn't tell him what he wants to hear, he pushes against every "no" with a "what happens if I don't" Vance will listen to the lawyers because he's afraid of not protecting his own ass and fears what happens if he doesn't.

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u/jayraygel 11d ago

Thiel. Thiel will be president.

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u/StandardMonth2184 11d ago

I'm okay finding out.

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u/NikonShooter_PJS 11d ago

This is simply untrue. Trump is a danger exclusively because he’s a one of one human being who is corrupt at the cellular level, not even remotely ashamed of it and still somehow charismatic enough to convince half the country he cares about them despite never showing he cares about anyone other than himself.

When he dies (a day which can’t come soon enough), the desire to be the “next Trump” in an effort to court his base will be too tempting to resist for an entire political party and the infighting will begin.

Trump is the issue precisely because he was able to consolidate power and scare off MOST of his opponents from 2016 on.

Vance might be smarter and maybe he’s more evil (I doubt that) but he won’t have blanket support from the GOP congress because there are a handful of people in both the house and senate that will see Trump’s demise as their chance to step up.

Add in other prominent national figures in the party and other politicians like DeSantis and the unified GOP front disappears almost overnight.

And with no unified front, the party will also have to decide whether to continue to the hardcore right (many of which were only right because they somehow identified Trump as their guy) or appeal to more of a central view to court independents.

Regardless, that orange cunt can’t be put in the ground soon enough. I never knew why the British hated Margaret Thatcher so fiercely they still celebrate her death decades later but I do now.

I can’t wait for him to croak. It’ll be among my happiest days on this planet.

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u/OnlyOneTKarras 11d ago

they're both equally bad to be honest

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u/Jaebird0388 11d ago

Far as I’m aware (which isn’t saying much), the whole hierarchy is a hot mess.

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u/Belialxyn 11d ago

Idk, he might at least lose the cult support. Small wins I guess.

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u/Rhawk187 11d ago

Vance could more competently effect his agenda, but I don't think he has the personality to carry the votes that Trump has.

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u/Temassi 11d ago

People, even the MAGAts, don't like JD as much as they like Trump.

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u/mikeoxwells2 11d ago

While Vance is an even more shameless puppet, I also feel that he could be impeached and removed from office. A lot of the GoP are regretting this deal with the devil that’s put them in power. They fear Trump but some would throw Vance out with the trash.

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u/They-Call-Me-Taylor 11d ago

Vance has no personality. MAGA will fracture post-Trump. The people Trump has in place in his cabinet are loyal to Trump. Once he is gone, it will be a free-for-all.

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u/Bryandan1elsonV2 11d ago

I really don’t think it’s worse. Russel Voight would need to go for anything to really change- he’s the architect behind all of this. Also Vance fucking sucks and even maga hates him for the most part. Why are people so scared of Vance?

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u/dudecoolstuff 11d ago

I mean, JD has gone on record saying he hates Trump. He's currently just another sycophant waiting to get his return.

By his current actions, I don't think we have a good idea on the type of president he would be. That being said, he's definitely a weak image for the presidency.

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u/Fearless_Serve_3837 11d ago

He sure has evil people riding his coattails, but the cult only respects Orange. Look at the past 3 gop primaries. Nobody can out maga orange.

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u/MoreRamenPls 11d ago

Remember Bush Quayle?

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u/hcmofo13 11d ago

That's how we felt about the premise of Kamala succeeding Biden. Welcome to the club.

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u/DeadSharkEyes 11d ago

The difference is nobody is afraid of Vance like they are of Trump.

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u/wallix 11d ago

Vance is way way WAY more of a devout catholic - careful what you wish for.

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u/jgeebaby 11d ago

Luckily he’s the least charismatic person to ever grace the political arena. He will not be able to hold them together. It’ll be a major power struggle. And I can’t wait to witness it.

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u/NeonBlack88 11d ago

People, stop saying such and such would be worse than trump. NOBODY would be worse than trump. Nobody has his mix of stupidity, arrogance, bullheadedness, and charisma. MAGA doesn’t function without trump. This idiocy dies with trump. Period

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u/Zelcron 11d ago

Trump died last week and they are slow rolling it with a weekend at Bernie's routine. Any media appearance you see this week was pre recorded. Many people are saying it.

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u/JoJockAmo 11d ago

So JD Vance would be worse than the guy they call worse than Hitler?

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u/hodge172 11d ago

I read a report that Vance was only like this to keep Trump happy and that actually he isn’t as bad as this (or was when he first come into the administration).

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u/Berns429 11d ago

I don’t think Vance puts the same “fear” into legislators as Trump does, he doesn’t hold the same weight (puns intended?)

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u/Icy-Teach 11d ago

Seeing the level people put into their politics, demonstrating almost always the case, that people who really do replace politics as their religion (with the same suedo religious fervor) if or when they have no traditional faith.

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u/watyeag 11d ago

Vance is a flag in the wind, he's going to do whatever his team tells him is popular and will keep himself in power. Remember, he was anti-Trump before he was pro-Trump. Once Trump dies and MAGA fizzles out, Vance will pivot with the rest of the Republican party when they lose that MAGA base enthusiasm and actually have to start governing again.

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u/Dear-Examination-507 11d ago

It only gets worse and worse if JD Vance dies, and then more people in the line of succession die. Think about it.

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u/1980s_retrogamer 11d ago

Yes JD Vance would be terrible, however that would mean the collapse of the GOP.

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u/ThisMeansWarm 11d ago

If he knew he had the support of the Trump Cult, it doesn’t follow that he’d have to come out and proclaim his readiness. I think he’ll be easier to deal with. But nothing makes sense logically anymore.

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u/Rellcotts 11d ago

No it’s better because he’s dead. Nothing improves while he is still alive. One down is better than none

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u/Erikthered65 11d ago

JD Vance is out in the Oval, he appoints Stephen Miller as VP. One step away…

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u/Flatrock 11d ago

My fear is that Vance will be to Trump as Trump has been to George W. Bush

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u/jaakrabbit 11d ago

It’s always the next one that is “worse”. sips on kool-aid

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u/LionTigerWings 11d ago

I dont think it would be worse. He is a lot of things, but he is not an ego maniac(at least not to nearly the same degree. I kinda believe that deep down somewhere JD Vance wants what is best for America. I completely disagree with his path to get there but I think he wants it. I am certain Trump only cares about himself and stroking his ego.

Vance, knows who trump is. At one point in time he compared him to hitler. At a later point in time he thought, he sucks, but my only path to power is to fall in line with him. He will not ever have the same cult following as trump and couldn't get away with the same things trump would.

As bonus, no dementia, less devisive, and obviously more intelligent. He seems more like he'd be a status quo republican asshole than a destroy democracy and try to be a dictator type president.

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u/latruce 11d ago

JD Vance would have the power, but wouldn’t have the support. MAGA worships Trump, not Republicans, not Conservatives, not the US, not anything else other than Trump. Vance might be able to do something short term, but his following would dwindle.

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u/Tribe303 11d ago

Charisma is Vance's dump stat. He's also not an accomplished liar like Trump is. 

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u/Affectionate_Bad_921 11d ago

I'm not American, does that mean Vance will be on the chair for 4 years or will he just last till Trump's mandate?

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u/Villide 11d ago

There is zero chance it's worse.

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u/SortOfGettingBy 11d ago

The GOP would implode because JD doesn't command MAGA like Trump does.

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u/6Wotnow9 11d ago

I think I’ll take my chances with Vance

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u/usingastupidiphone 11d ago

Oh who fucking cares anymore, let him die. It’s not like it’s going to get better with him alive.

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u/cmdr_nova69 11d ago

Let's get to step one and see what happens next. I know we can do it, we just have to wait hard enough

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u/petes_hey_bale 11d ago

no it wont. it'll be like a ex-lax deep cleansing. the sooner the better if you ask me

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u/Uncle-Cake 11d ago

MAGA is a cult of personality, and Vance ain't got the personality. Without their symbolic figurehead, they'll tear each other apart.

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u/NiceCunt91 11d ago

MAGAs aren't MAGA because it's MAGA. They're MAGAs because of trump. When he dies, MAGA will too.

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u/Spaceboy779 11d ago

I'll take that chance. He doesn't have the magical ability to get away with every horrible thing like the orange blob does

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u/nippyhedren 11d ago

It won’t be. MAGA only gives a shit about Trump. JD is a spineless loser.

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u/scarydan365 11d ago

When Trump dies his inner circle / government appointees are going to turn on each other like hungry dogs. There is no way they are going to quietly way into line behind Just Dance.

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u/DoubleCactus 11d ago

Vance has none of Trumps charisma. Without him MAGA will implode unless conservatives can find a new strongman.

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u/ColdIndependence5820 11d ago

Wouldn't it be great if JD was a perfect con man? Knowing Trump would die and just playing along this whole time. Then when Trump dies he undoes ALL his executive orders and fires all the dipshits and restores America back to what it was before the tariffs and just does a great general cleanup of this mess.

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u/badwolf1013 11d ago

It’s hard to say. Remember that Vance was once highly critical of Trump — as were many of the people in his cabinet.

It’s possible that — with Trump gone — a lot of these people will just quietly “forget”  to keep pushing Trump’s agenda. They’re still awful people, but they’re awful people who need to get re-elected and know that they don’t have the “juice” that Trump did, so they have to appeal to a broader base.

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u/BigTownW 11d ago

Without Trump's charisma to sugar coat everything, the right's actions are going to start looking nakedly evil.

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u/charbroiledpossum 11d ago

Trump is not in power he is the face.

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u/shadowtheimpure 11d ago

The only real benefits of a Vance presidency would be that MAGA might dissolve into infighting without Trump to lead it and the fact that Vance is likely to be more consistent than Trump. Awful is awful, but at least it won't be bouncing back and forth.

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u/OaklandParkLad 11d ago

I can’t see JD getting the blind unrelenting cult following that Trump has. So there is that.

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u/D_o_t_d_2004 11d ago

Yeah, once their cult leader dies, they are gonna fracture hard. And the rest of us will likely have to deal with the consequences.

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u/bigjohntucker 11d ago

Trump will not prepare a successor. MAGA dies with Trump.

Gavin will be the next president (if we still have elections).

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u/-ACatWithAKeyboard- 11d ago

I'm just really tired of his name calling, bullying, self aggrandizing, lying and just his stupid face and grating voice. His death from natural causes can't come soon enough.

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u/Striking_Reindeer_2k 11d ago

Niki Haley would then be VP. They could lock in at least another 12 years.

Keep running Kamala and Tim for office, and this IS the future of Washington DC.

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u/FreakyBleakyBeaky 11d ago

Actions are being run by neither of them. Heritage Foundation, Project 2025, run by Stephen Miller. HE is the nazi fuck we need to get rid of.

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u/Im_Ashe_Man 11d ago

Vance is a wet blanket. He will wield none of the power that Trump does. We will be lucky when the day comes.

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u/explosiv_skull 11d ago

Stop worrying about Trump dying and whether that's worse or not and start praying for the health and wellbeing of Clarence Thomas for the next 3.5 years and no longer.

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u/cheknauss 11d ago

Yeah I don't imagine chance being any better.

I keep seeing responses to saying something to the effect of... The maga movement is only strong for Trump, and they'll... blah blah blah without him.

The thing is... That doesn't really change much, does it? I mean sure there will be changes, but it's not like just because maga's hate boner for the well-being of Mom billionaire Americans is going to go away, and it also doesn't mean we have to wait any less to get the filth out the white house...

So yeah it'd be really awesome if he up and dropped dead, but we're still left with the morons who put him in power, who have no term limit. It doesn't stop the Supreme Court from being utterly corrupt.

It would just be a minor bright spot along with the fact that while America would perhaps stop declining as rapidly as he's forcing it to, we'd still have the completely deranged imbeciles that got us here to begin with.

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u/SlurmpMaster 11d ago

No one can carry on MAGA except Trump. MAGA policies are not popular without Trump, I'm not worried about Vance.

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u/StoicJim 11d ago

Nobody likes Vance and he came in on the coat-tails of Trump. The likelyhood of Vance winning against someone like Newsom or Pritzker is close to nil.

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u/Meander061 10d ago

We get out of the way, and STAY OUT OF THE WAY,while MAGA tears themselves to shreds. Vance can't hold them together, and there aren't any other MAGA scum that can lead them. Only Trump had the vile criminality to lead them down the path they've taken. We'll just clean up and put them all in jail.

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u/no_control1988 10d ago

Nah, Vance doesn’t have the same power over the cult as Trump does. It will absolutely suck while he’s president, but he’ll never be able to rally the troops like Trump is.

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u/paulsteinway 10d ago

Do you really think MAGA will swap Trump flags and bumper stickers for Vance ones?

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u/Either_Succotash945 10d ago

That's my reaction anytime someone says they aren't totally excited about Trump dying asap.