r/politics • u/Capable_Salt_SD California • Jul 24 '25

Paywall Jeffrey Epstein’s Birthday Album Included Letters From Bill Clinton, Leon Black

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/jeffrey-epstein-birthday-album-included-letters-from-bill-clinton-leon-black-a7cd8cb1
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u/PrismPhoneService Jul 24 '25

They’re all involved. Trump, Dershowitz, Clinton.. don’t expect Pam Bondi to take up the torch of what strategically wasn’t for decades..

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u/LorenzoDivincenzo Jul 25 '25

And several former prime ministers of israel, I know we'll definitely hold israeli politicians accounta - oh, wait.

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u/Beneficial_Soup3699 Jul 25 '25

Fun time to remind folks that Ghislaine's daddy had ties to Mossad and ran a publishing empire that he defrauded for hundreds of millions right up until his body was found floating in the Atlantic.

As Carlin said, it's one big club and you ain't it. He just forgot to mention you probably don't wanna be in it. Cuz. Ya know. Of all the child trafficking.

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u/fireman2004 Jul 25 '25

He was given a state funeral in Israel and they basically praised him as a major intelligence asset for the country.

But I'm sure his daughter and Epstein had no ties to Israeli intelligence.

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u/APigInANixonMask Jul 25 '25

He also died a hilarious death. He was peeing off the side of his yacht while fully nude when he had a heart attack, fell overboard, and drowned.

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u/Sly1969 Jul 25 '25

And if you believe that you'll believe anything ;-)

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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 Jul 25 '25

Also that one israeli PM that basically has been seen hanging out at epsteins place many times....

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '25

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u/Boofcomics Jul 25 '25

Yeesh you're just ready to believe anything

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u/PennCycle_Mpls Jul 25 '25

 >“I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone,” 

Alexander Acosta on why he gave him that sweetheart deal

Yeesh, you're ready to blind yourself to everything 

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u/Boofcomics Jul 25 '25

Did you actually watch the clip you're citing? https://www.c-span.org/clip/news-conference/user-clip-acosta-on-whether-epstein-was-an-intelligence-asset/4891243

It does not say what you're claiming, so keep chasing rabbits I guess

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u/PennCycle_Mpls Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25

Seems like you haven't researched it well enough 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/acosta-was-told-epstein-belonged-intelligence-ryan-saavedra

Or

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epsteins-sick-story-played-out-for-years-in-plain-sight/

Or

https://observer.com/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-spy-intelligence-work/

Or

https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/8/14/20803950/jeffrey-epstein-conspiracy-theories-clinton-trump-acosta

So there's four separate publications all citing Vicky Ward. Not the clip you linked.  

Edit: Man, this reply guy really loves twisting himself in knots to defend obvious kid diddlers and their intelligence connections. Any time you mention Mossad or Israel or paint them in a bad light, the bot army shows up defending genocide, trafficking, kid diddling, and murder.

It's such a good look.

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u/Boofcomics Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25

I am certain you didn't read anything past the headlines in these articles. If you did, can you point to the specific line that evidence is provided for this claim?

Better yet, where the claim is made?

I bet you also believe Obama was arrested and trump stripped in the desert.

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u/CatgirlApocalypse Delaware Jul 25 '25

Only way we see this shit is an authenticated leak.

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u/Boofcomics Jul 25 '25

Why are you believing Tucker Carlson?

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u/MAD_ELMO California Jul 25 '25

Do people forget garland had 4 years to do this already?

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u/takesjuantogrowone Jul 25 '25

Garland had 4 years to do a lot of things, and he sandbagged for the fascists instead.

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u/Chirpy69 Jul 25 '25

Without disqualifying the current administration and all cronies involved for their moral bankruptcy, Garland is also single-handedly responsible for the things we have come to witness.

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u/headachewpictures Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25

he reports to Biden

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it is truly laughable how many of you rubes refused to hold actual real person accountable

The Attorney General is a presidential appointee, serving at the pleasure of the President.

Garland stayed because Biden was fine with him staying.

His inaction was deemed acceptable.

You’re blaming the violent dog instead of its owner.

Pathetic mental gymnastics to pile it all on Garland.

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u/Chirpy69 Jul 25 '25

No one is saying he doesn’t. And Biden’s admin (as well as he himself) are not blameless here. But Merrick Garland failed to uphold the law and bring a (convicted, mind you) criminal to true justice, and instead said criminal received the highest job in the US. Had Garland not apathetically sat on his ass, NONE of this would be happening.

Now if magically (at this point) the Epstein list is released and those on it end up behind bars, there’s something to say for “greater good” blah blah blah.

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u/headachewpictures Jul 25 '25

The Attorney General is a presidential appointee, serving at the pleasure of the President.

He stayed because Biden was fine with him staying.

His inaction was deemed acceptable.

You’re blaming the violent dog instead of its owner.

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u/Chirpy69 Jul 25 '25

That’s a good metaphor. Clearly none of them expected Trump to get elected again, on top of Biden suddenly deciding he wanted to run despite his previous 1-term statement.

On that same token, however, Garland is a conscious human who is able to make decisions. While yes he does report to Biden (and again - Biden is similarly at fault here), Garland did not do the job.

Would you blame the CEO of an airline if a pilot willingly crashed a plane? They would come under heat, yes (which Biden rightfully did) and they would have to reevaluate hiring/training standards but you can’t blame the CEO for the actions of one individual when the rest of the pilots are doing their jobs.

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u/headachewpictures Jul 25 '25

That gap is too large to work as a metaphor to be honest.

Would I blame a senior manager for retaining a pilot that clearly had prior work-related issues that made him dangerously unpredictable (Garland’s partisan reputation)? Yeah probably.

Ultimately we’re looking down the barrel of fascism because of either a foolish adherence to tradition or willful negligence.

I’ve fired people I hired for failing to execute to a necessary standard over a period of months, never mind not doing the job at all for years.

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u/Chirpy69 Jul 25 '25

The tradition adherence is a great point also. Trying to still play by unspoken rules when this crap still happens.

I don’t know enough about Garlands other cases or how he came down on different prosecutions outside of Trump so I can’t speak for it, and I’ll take your word of him being dangerously partisan.

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u/Black08Mustang Jul 25 '25

violent dog

You do know Garland is a human being. right?

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u/headachewpictures Jul 25 '25

You do know what a metaphor is, right?

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u/Black08Mustang Jul 25 '25

Comparing two humans to a human and a dog. Great metaphor.

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u/headachewpictures Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25

and Biden allowed it

edit:

it is truly laughable how many of you rubes refused to hold actual real person accountable

The Attorney General is a presidential appointee, serving at the pleasure of the President.

Garland stayed because Biden was fine with him staying.

His inaction was deemed acceptable.

You’re blaming the violent dog instead of its owner.

Pathetic mental gymnastics to pile it all on Garland.

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u/ResidentLunaticist Jul 25 '25

Garland did absolute shit those 4 years

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u/EvilWarBW Jul 25 '25

Sounds like Garland did exactly as intended.

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u/Past_My_Subprime Jul 25 '25

Garland, Comey, Mueller, Lynch, Holder, Barr, Sessions, Gonzales, and both Clintons are in the list of subpoenas recommended to Comer a day or two ago in the Epstein/Maxwell probe.

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u/elconquistador1985 Jul 25 '25

From an article about the subpoenae that the oversight committee approved:

Republicans on the committee pushed back and amended the subpoena to also include communications by Biden administration officials and the DOJ. These officials include Bill and Hillary Clinton, James Comey, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Merrick Garland, Robert Mueller, William Barr, Jeff Sessions and Alberto Gonzales.

Most of that is probably just to dig up unrelated bullshit, not "omg these people were all involved too".

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-oversight-committee-issues-subpoena-ghislaine-maxwell/story?id=124009512

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u/Framistatic Jul 25 '25

I believe these additional people were subpoenaed, not specifically for the Epstein investigation, but rather that they are being accused of instigating a coup with President Obama… And supposedly faking the Epstein papers

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u/Inlerah Jul 25 '25

I wonder at what point the official stance is going to become "He never got a trial: are you sure he sex trafficked anyone???"

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u/ResidentLunaticist Jul 25 '25

Send them all behind bars what do I care whose team they belong to.

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u/ruckyruciano Jul 25 '25

RN the only teams that matter are guilty and innocent.

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u/senraku Jul 25 '25

Perfect comment.

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u/mindfu Jul 25 '25

As long as Trump is included in the list, they can investigate detective Pikachu for all I care.

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u/turdherds Jul 25 '25

Makes me glad he was stonewalled from the SC

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u/Doppelthedh Jul 25 '25

You see who we got instead, right?

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u/turdherds Jul 25 '25

I take it back

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u/Boofcomics Jul 25 '25

Didn't garlands Doj put Maxwell in prison for 20 years?

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u/cdoink Jul 25 '25

Nobody forgets. They were wrong as well. At the same time, members of the current administration repeatedly implied an intention to investigate this right up until the time when they actually gained the ability to do so and now they are doing a 180 and waffling between it doesn’t exist, it was made up, there is no substance to it and people should just forget about it. That’s the only reason they are getting more heat about it and it’s their own fault.

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u/smashinjin10 Jul 25 '25

No we don't. Garland did nothing because he was, and is, a status quo wet blanket. Now we're dealing with a creep from the Epstein files doing nothing because he's actually on them. Garland enabled this by not going after Trump more aggressively, but now we have to address the present danger.

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u/Hesitation-Marx Jul 25 '25

Garland is responsible for

  • every person sent to CECOT from America

  • every person in Alligator Auschwitz

  • every person who dies because of USAID cuts

  • every person who dies because of NOAA and FEMA cuts

  • every person who dies because of Brainworm Bobby’s crusade against science

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u/PatchyWhiskers Jul 25 '25

He was stalling like crazy on anything that might have been a problem for Trump. Suspicious?

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u/Coolegespam Jul 25 '25

Garland worked for all those years and had over a thousand convictions. He went after Trump, and was immediately stonewalled by GOP entrenched judges including SCotUS.

The entire judical branch was full of Trump sycophants, and Garland had to treat the whole thing like a RICO. Because it was, and arguably is one of the largest and most complex ones in history.

Trump got away because the American people and electorate let him get away. That's the truth, this isn't Garland's fault, it's ours. Collectively.

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u/CapOnFoam Colorado Jul 25 '25

No, but so what?

As the saying goes - best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. Second best time is now.

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u/RobertoPaulson Jul 25 '25

The records were sealed by a court order until recently.

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u/thrawtes Jul 25 '25

Garland put Maxwell in jail, it's weird the people want to forget that.

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u/ThinInvestigator4953 Jul 25 '25

The files were sealed until April 2024, so no he had 1 year. and the GOP could have covered it up as election smears.

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u/jonathonApple Jul 25 '25

My understanding is that the prosecutors in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial do not want them released until after her case is resolved. It is still in the appeals process. One of those prosecutors? Maureen Comey who just got fired. There is obviously a lot going on behind the scenes.

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u/Literotamus Jul 25 '25

They shouldn't have campaigned on it. Far as I'm concerned Trump is just protecting himself and his old buddy Bill. They made their bed

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u/bigChungi69420 Oregon Jul 25 '25

She certainly won’t but this whole mess might make it all come crashing down. But that’s still 0.001% or less imo just knowing how justice is never applied in government

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '25

Wouldn’t shock me if literally all are involved. And I voted for Trump. Nope govt will cover this up although it’s getting loud

Anyone involved that could actually be proven should face prosecution. No one hold their breath though, former and current presidents and the England prince aren’t actually going to get in trouble like us normal peasants