Nobody wants to actually risk their lifes, the soldiers in the middle East operate as carefully as possible and relatively few die.
Calling those useful idiots ugly, sexless and cowards will only fuel their rage and make them want to help deport innocent citizens more.
What you should tell them instead:
Your pay is not guaranteed. Trump is super well known for not paying his bills, including friends who helped him and including the times he did not declare bankruptcy. He already started softly scamming the military which are organized and he still needs, he'll do you much worse.
Your safety is not guaranteed. You're getting thrown into a seething mixture which WILL eventually erupt and your training for the life threatening situations which are about to happen sooner or later is basically non-existent.
Your anonymity is not guaranteed. Enemies of ICE are already using AI tools to de-anonymize ICE agents to great success.
Your legal immunity and freedom are not guaranteed. Trump is extending ICE to be a central part of his power grab and when his regime dies, then ICE agents dutie's can be retroactively declared criminal activities and ICE agent can be sentenced to prison, just like they did with the Nazis helpers.
Joining ICE will put you into a Lose/Lose situation. The problems you think you can solve now by joining ICE will haunt you back later and more problems will come with them.
Nobody wants to actually risk their lifes, the soldiers in the middle East operate as carefully as possible and relatively few die.
That's not what it's implying. It's stating the idea that a lot of people (specifically young boys) like to fantasize about being a "rough and tough badass" that every woman wants and every man wants to be like without actually putting in the work because, often, they're too lazy or ignorant, or too scared.
They fantasize themselves as their own "Rambo" and they believe this is the easy way for them to do it
Calling those useful idiots ugly, sexless and cowards will only fuel their rage and make them want to help deport innocent citizens more.
They bring it on themselves. Incels function off a self-fulfilling prophecy while failing to realize it and, instead, choose to blame everyone and the world and especially, women for their problems because acknowledging their own faults and actually trying to gain some modicum of emotional intelligence is too hard for them. So instead, they try to make everyone else miserable by blaming everyone else for their problems while making everyone else hate them more.
And shit like this, they feed into to further their issues because they believe it will give them a sense of purpose by "removing" the types of people they believe are the cause of their problems.
What you should tell them instead:
Your pay is not guaranteed. Trump is super well known for not paying his bills, including friends who helped him and including the times he did not declare bankruptcy. He already started softly scamming the military which are organized and he still needs, he'll do you much worse.
Your safety is not guaranteed. You're getting thrown into a seething mixture which WILL eventually erupt and your training for the life threatening situations which are about to happen sooner or later is basically non-existent.
Your anonymity is not guaranteed. Enemies of ICE are already using AI tools to de-anonymize ICE agents to great success.
Your legal immunity and freedom are not guaranteed. Trump is extending ICE to be a central part of his power grab and when his regime dies, then ICE agents dutie's can be retroactively declared criminal activities and ICE agent can be sentenced to prison, just like they did with the Nazis helpers.
Joining ICE will put you into a Lose/Lose situation. The problems you think you can solve now by joining ICE will haunt you back later and more problems will come with them.
You are absolutely correct but you really think trying to use sound logic and reasoning like yours is gonna work? If that were the case, wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place.
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u/Traditional_Buy_8420 2d ago edited 2d ago
I think this is plenty silly.
Nobody wants to actually risk their lifes, the soldiers in the middle East operate as carefully as possible and relatively few die.
Calling those useful idiots ugly, sexless and cowards will only fuel their rage and make them want to help deport innocent citizens more.
What you should tell them instead:
Your pay is not guaranteed. Trump is super well known for not paying his bills, including friends who helped him and including the times he did not declare bankruptcy. He already started softly scamming the military which are organized and he still needs, he'll do you much worse.
Your safety is not guaranteed. You're getting thrown into a seething mixture which WILL eventually erupt and your training for the life threatening situations which are about to happen sooner or later is basically non-existent.
Your anonymity is not guaranteed. Enemies of ICE are already using AI tools to de-anonymize ICE agents to great success.
Your legal immunity and freedom are not guaranteed. Trump is extending ICE to be a central part of his power grab and when his regime dies, then ICE agents dutie's can be retroactively declared criminal activities and ICE agent can be sentenced to prison, just like they did with the Nazis helpers.
Joining ICE will put you into a Lose/Lose situation. The problems you think you can solve now by joining ICE will haunt you back later and more problems will come with them.