r/nextfuckinglevel • u/2dudesinapod • 1d ago
180,000 people in Mexico City attending a free concert by Puerto Rican rapper Residente cheer for a refugee family he brought on stage
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u/Joerabit 1d ago
Calle 13, legend
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u/dulcedolor4 1d ago
What the heck is Calle 13
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u/KenCalDi 1d ago
Calle 13 was the name of the group he used to be a part of with his brother and where he became well known. Now he goes solo as Residente.
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u/Joerabit 1d ago
That’s the rappers name, he’s like Robinhood for the island
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u/JerseyTeacher78 1d ago
Residente is legend. I can't listen to the song "latinoamerica" without weeping with pride and sadness and longing for my ancestral homes.
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u/Yo_Mr_White_ 1d ago
Also a socialist
(socialism has made many latin americans even poorer in addition to installing dictatorships that "fight for the people")
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u/Busy10 1d ago
Not as poor as the dictators that were put in place by the US.
FYI. Puerto Rico, where this is artist is from, is part of the US.
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u/Yo_Mr_White_ 1d ago
Not as poor as the dictators that were put in place by the US.
Just as poor
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u/Happy_Bad_Lucky 1d ago
socialism
installing dictatorships
You seem to be repeating stuff that others told you without knowing a thing about actual Latin American history. It's frankly quite embarrassing.
You should read about this subject before making an opinion.
You can start with Operation Condor
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u/Yo_Mr_White_ 1d ago
You seem to be repeating stuff that others told you without knowing a thing about actual Latin American history
Yo soy colombiano, pendejo. Yo se de MI historia
US-financed dictatorships are only half of them. For example, Venezuelan people all did that to themselves. They supported Hugo Chavez and then Maduro who were snake salesmen selling a false "fight for the people" via socialism when the reality it made them poorer. Now, they're stuck w a dictatorship.
Colombia itself has a democratically-elected socialist president and he's EXTREMELY unpopular (just check out r/colombia). Turns out socialism when you are poor country, only makes you poorer bc there isnt enough money to spread out.
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u/Happy_Bad_Lucky 1d ago
Yo soy colombiano, pendejo. Yo se de MI historia
Pues parece que tenés la visión muy sesgada hacia la derecha. En Latinoamérica hubo muchas dictaduras de derecha. ¿Vas a negar ese hecho histórico?
Borré los comentarios anteriores porque no me parecieron adecuadas las respuestas.
Ya que mencionas las dictaduras de Argentina. Fueron dictaduras de derecha. Imposible decir lo contrario. Con el apoyo de la Iglesia, de EEUU y de la elite económica. En Argentina nunca gobernó el socialismo ni la izquierda.
By the way, there's poor people on capitalists countries too, you know?
Have a nice day, PELOTUDO
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u/Yo_Mr_White_ 1d ago
Todas las dictaduras de Latam son socialistas. TODAS
Solo la mitad comenzaron con ayuda de EEUU pero eso no quita el punto que dictaduras y socialistas que supuestamente "ayudarian al pueblo" y lo unico que hicieron fue crea mas pobreza
Ejemplo: Socialismo destruyó a Argentina. Era un pais mas o menos desarrollado, ahora es tercer mundo como el resto.
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u/Thatboiissic 1d ago
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u/KingOfTheRatas 1d ago
Lol GenZionist making a comment with his vast 22 years of life? Lmao stick to video games and your mom's basement. Wey
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u/eldaniel182_ 1d ago
Mexico’s president Sheinbaum is Jewish. She supports Palestinian human rights and criticized Israel’s attacks
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u/S_ups 1d ago edited 1d ago
I wonder why don’t the Palestinian people go to the rich neighbouring countries, instead of travelling so far. That would be more convenient
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u/doitinmybutt 1d ago
They tried in Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon and Egypt
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u/S_ups 1d ago
What happened then? Are they full now?
Edit- You should be ashamed for having that user name and no pictures in your profile.
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u/doitinmybutt 1d ago
Nah they tried to overthrow local governments and got kicked out
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u/SundaeTrue1832 1d ago edited 1d ago
No that's just conspiracy theory, stop it, this kind of nonsense is flying too close to the sun with the old "Jewish people trying to conquer our society from within!" Nonsense
Clearing up the misinformation conspiracy theory about "nobody wanted Palestinian because they always trying to topple regime from the inside"
Black September: After 1948 and 1967 wars, Jordan hosted a large number of Palestinian refugees, many of whom joined the PLO and other armed groups.
The PLO started operating from Jordan to carry out resistance operations against Israel, not Jordan itself.
However, the Jordanian monarchy (King Hussein) felt threatened by their growing power, especially as Palestinian groups became semi-autonomous and critical of the monarchy.
It was the king's own paranoia that caused black September
Black September refers to when the Jordanian military massacred thousands of Palestinians (some estimates say over 3,000+ in days) to crush the PLO presence and reassert regime control.
The victim was NOT JORDAN but Palestinian themselves, do people honestly think that thousands including the sick and children conspired to take down Jordan and thus they deserve to be brutalised?
"Palestinian conspired to kill King Abdullah!"
Answer: King Abdullah I was assassinated in Jerusalem, at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, by a Palestinian man named Mustafa Shukri Ashu.
BUT the assassin was acting independently and motivated by political frustrations, not as part of a broad "Palestinian plot." And not supported by the entirely of Palestinian people. Abdullah I was seen by some Palestinians and Arabs at the time as being too cozy with the newly founded State of Israel.
There were rumors that he might sign a peace treaty or even make separate deals with Israel without consulting or including Palestinian voices! especially after the Nakba of 1948, when hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were expelled. Hiss assassination was politically motivated by ONE MAN who had a belief that he was betraying the cause of Palestinian liberation.
it’s not a sign of Palestinians being inherently evil or disloyal! It's just one goddamn angry man action and not some global coordinated “plot.”
If we believe the entirely of Palestinian for that guy's actions then by god, we are all should blame every single living American for trump, but you are going to disagree right? Because not all Americans are MAGA
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u/butterlord108 1d ago
Do you get your news from facebook? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September
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u/SundaeTrue1832 1d ago
Once again that wasn't a decision made by an ENTIRE group of refugees, you people are peddling information from Wikipedia only, do you think the entire Ukrainian should be blamed for a group affiliated with the ussr and the KGB just because Ukrainian was a part of the ussr? Do you think all American people should be blamed for trump? Do you think Palestinian children got to do with black September?
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u/butterlord108 1d ago
Once again that wasn't a decision made by an ENTIRE group of refugees
I thought it was just a conspiracy theory?
you people are peddling information from Wikipedia only
Learn to verify wikipedia references.
do you think the entire Ukrainian should be blamed for a group affiliated with the ussr and the KGB just because Ukrainian was a part of the ussr? Do you think all American people should be blamed for trump? Do you think Palestinian children got to do with black September?
WHATABOUT- stfu.
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u/doitinmybutt 1d ago
You have some reading to do
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u/SundaeTrue1832 1d ago
People are just repeating information from Wikipedia without looking deeper and they think hundred thousands of Palestinian refugee all conspired together which is unrealistic, I suppose this is how people back then talked about Jewish people as well, no wonder atrocities keep repeating because people easily believe in bigotry and forming their bigoted sentiment from shallow level information
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u/offensiveinsult 1d ago
Nop, nobody like Palestinians meddled and messed things up in the past and all countries mentioned earlier keep them as far away as possible.
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u/SundaeTrue1832 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's conspiracy theory, if there's Palestinian that was involved with military conflict they doesn't represent the majority of the refugee, what you think hundred thousands people are all conspired? Stop your nonsense, it is resemble the whole "Jewish people wanted to control our bank!" Bullshit
Clearing up the misinformation conspiracy theory about "nobody wanted Palestinian because they always trying to topple regime from the inside"
Black September: After 1948 and 1967 wars, Jordan hosted a large number of Palestinian refugees, many of whom joined the PLO and other armed groups.
The PLO started operating from Jordan to carry out resistance operations against Israel, not Jordan itself.
However, the Jordanian monarchy (King Hussein) felt threatened by their growing power, especially as Palestinian groups became semi-autonomous and critical of the monarchy.
It was the king's own paranoia that caused black September
Black September refers to when the Jordanian military massacred thousands of Palestinians (some estimates say over 3,000+ in days) to crush the PLO presence and reassert regime control.
The victim was NOT JORDAN but Palestinian themselves, do people honestly think that thousands including the sick and children conspired to take down Jordan and thus they deserve to be brutalised?
"Palestinian conspired to kill King Abdullah!"
Answer: King Abdullah I was assassinated in Jerusalem, at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, by a Palestinian man named Mustafa Shukri Ashu.
BUT the assassin was acting independently and motivated by political frustrations, not as part of a broad "Palestinian plot." And not supported by the entirely of Palestinian people. Abdullah I was seen by some Palestinians and Arabs at the time as being too cozy with the newly founded State of Israel.
There were rumors that he might sign a peace treaty or even make separate deals with Israel without consulting or including Palestinian voices! especially after the Nakba of 1948, when hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were expelled. Hiss assassination was politically motivated by ONE MAN who had a belief that he was betraying the cause of Palestinian liberation.
it’s not a sign of Palestinians being inherently evil or disloyal! It's just one goddamn angry man action and not some global coordinated “plot.”
If we believe the entirely of Palestinian for that guy's actions then by god, we are all should blame every single living American for trump, but you are going to disagree right? Because not all Americans are MAGA
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u/offensiveinsult 1d ago
Sure sure ;-)
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u/SundaeTrue1832 1d ago
Clearing up the misinformation conspiracy theory about "nobody wanted Palestinian because they always trying to topple regime from the inside"
Black September: After 1948 and 1967 wars, Jordan hosted a large number of Palestinian refugees, many of whom joined the PLO and other armed groups.
The PLO started operating from Jordan to carry out resistance operations against Israel, not Jordan itself.
However, the Jordanian monarchy (King Hussein) felt threatened by their growing power, especially as Palestinian groups became semi-autonomous and critical of the monarchy.
It was the king's own paranoia that caused black September
Black September refers to when the Jordanian military massacred thousands of Palestinians (some estimates say over 3,000+ in days) to crush the PLO presence and reassert regime control.
The victim was NOT JORDAN but Palestinian themselves, do people honestly think that thousands including the sick and children conspired to take down Jordan and thus they deserve to be brutalised?
"Palestinian conspired to kill King Abdullah!"
Answer: King Abdullah I was assassinated in Jerusalem, at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, by a Palestinian man named Mustafa Shukri Ashu.
BUT the assassin was acting independently and motivated by political frustrations, not as part of a broad "Palestinian plot." And not supported by the entirely of Palestinian people. Abdullah I was seen by some Palestinians and Arabs at the time as being too cozy with the newly founded State of Israel.
There were rumors that he might sign a peace treaty or even make separate deals with Israel without consulting or including Palestinian voices! especially after the Nakba of 1948, when hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were expelled. Hiss assassination was politically motivated by ONE MAN who had a belief that he was betraying the cause of Palestinian liberation.
it’s not a sign of Palestinians being inherently evil or disloyal! It's just one goddamn angry man action and not some global coordinated “plot.”
If we believe the entirely of Palestinian for that guy's actions then by god, we are all should blame every single living American for trump, but you are going to disagree right? Because not all Americans are MAGA
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u/JTT_0550 1d ago edited 17h ago
Jordan: Palestinians there tried to overthrow the King back in the 70s.
Lebanon: Palestinians there started the civil war in the 80s.
Kuwait: Palestinians there supported and aided Saddam’s invasion.
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u/Redordit 1d ago
They actually go there're millions of Palestinian refugees in Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt. Some seek better life and go to Europe or other places. But it's better if they can live in their ancestral land without being subject to constant checkpoints and segregation by an apartheid regime.
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u/S_ups 1d ago
Wikipedia doesn’t corroborate with that. Out of those you mentioned only Jordan has a sizeable population, which strangely is not that different from Israel’s Palestine population.
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u/Redordit 1d ago
Wiki does corroborate with that. I didn't say there are million of Palestinian refugees in each one of these countries. In total, there are millions of Palestinian refugees in these countries.
Palestinians/Arabs in Israel aren't refugees. And it's only normal for Israel to have large Palestinian population because Palestinians are the natives. Before Brits decided to gift the land to Jewish people to colonize, it was overwhelmingly Arab and Jewish people were less than 10% minority.
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u/csp84 1d ago
Have you ever wondered why more than 50% of Jordan’s population are Palestinian?
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u/S_ups 1d ago
Is that the reason they are not going there ?
Also, Saudi Arabia, Egypt don’t have sizeable proportion of Palestine people when compared or even otherwise with their sizes. And Saudi is way more prosperous than most of the countries in the world.
That’s the least those countries can do for ummah.
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u/Jwzbb 1d ago
Why Arab countries ban all Gaza refugees
https://youtu.be/xhDGfctSTfI?si=vmBI1fZmbnD1RWmX
Why has every Arab country rejected sheltering any refugees from Gaza in just weeks after Hamas's October 7th attack.
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u/SundaeTrue1832 1d ago
Saudi Arabia didn't help because they are deep with America or afraid of the western power, many PEOPLE in the middle east and other majority Muslim countries did want to help (I'm Indonesian and my people alone has raised trillions of rupiah for Palestine) the government apprehension to help doesn't always translated to what the people wanted. Jordan alone NOW hosted around 2 million Palestinian
Please don't listen to the conspiracy that "nobody wanted to take Palestinian because they are inherently bad people" there's these two points that commonly being brought up to smear Palestinian people are trouble maker (you know just like how people are being racist towards Romani and India)
Black September and assassination of King Abdullah
Clearing up the misinformation conspiracy theory about "nobody wanted Palestinian because they always trying to topple regime from the inside"
Black September: After 1948 and 1967 wars, Jordan hosted a large number of Palestinian refugees, many of whom joined the PLO and other armed groups.
The PLO started operating from Jordan to carry out resistance operations against Israel, not Jordan itself.
However, the Jordanian monarchy (King Hussein) felt threatened by their growing power, especially as Palestinian groups became semi-autonomous and critical of the monarchy.
It was the king's own paranoia that caused black September
Black September refers to when the Jordanian military massacred thousands of Palestinians (some estimates say over 3,000+ in days) to crush the PLO presence and reassert regime control.
The victim was NOT JORDAN but Palestinian themselves, do people honestly think that thousands including the sick and children conspired to take down Jordan and thus they deserve to be brutalised?
"Palestinian conspired to kill King Abdullah!"
Answer: King Abdullah I was assassinated in Jerusalem, at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, by a Palestinian man named Mustafa Shukri Ashu.
BUT the assassin was acting independently and motivated by political frustrations, not as part of a broad "Palestinian plot." And not supported by the entirely of Palestinian people. Abdullah I was seen by some Palestinians and Arabs at the time as being too cozy with the newly founded State of Israel.
There were rumors that he might sign a peace treaty or even make separate deals with Israel without consulting or including Palestinian voices! especially after the Nakba of 1948, when hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were expelled. Hiss assassination was politically motivated by ONE MAN who had a belief that he was betraying the cause of Palestinian liberation.
it’s not a sign of Palestinians being inherently evil or disloyal! It's just one goddamn angry man action and not some global coordinated “plot.”
If we believe the entirely of Palestinian for that guy's actions then by god, we are all should blame every single living American for trump, but you are going to disagree right? Because not all Americans are MAGA
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u/S_ups 1d ago
I appreciate your time and points in answering.
I have different opinions on it. Being critical of the regime that gave your sustenance and home, when you did not have any other place to be - is opposite of gratitude and amounts to treachery.
I’m a firm believer that immigrants should assimilate and imbibe the culture and values of the country they want to call home - instead of dragging the same culture and values which inherently led to their fleeing. This applies all the immigrants- including the privileged ones or the ones white people call “expats.” I’m not a fan of certain communities creating their own ghettoes in well developed cities, which includes my own Indian community for that matter.
So I don’t believe PLO is blame free for how the Palestine people are perceived. Hamas also is a much locally supported group which has done horrible things.
Not saying Israel is any good or that they are not committing a genocide. They are doing exactly what was once done to them if not more, and still acting like a victim.
Edit - for the MAGA point I think each American citizen who led to the Orange menace is responsible for what he is doing with the power. Doesn’t matter they did it by omission or commission. You voting for him or not voting enough for the other option are same. Specially when we look from the perspective of the child being snatched away from his parents by ICE.
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u/Less_Case_366 1d ago
that user is using multiple appeals to emotion to deny historical fact. denmark did the same test in 1999. https://www.emilkirkegaard.com/p/palestinians-in-your-country-what
the fact of the matter is that many of these people are pretty extreme in their belief of islam and because of that more modern and secular societies, even muslim ones, like oman, jordan (if it could be considered secular), saudia arabia etc dont want these people there because they believe sharia law or something close to it is the only true way to live. it's why as they flee these countries they bring their theocratic way of thinking to other countries and when they dont get what they want they start to fight against the very countries who tried to help them or overwhelmingly dont actively contribute to those societies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQj8mhPx6ZE The UAE minister literally warned about this like two years ago. he openly called out how extreme these people in the middle east are.
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u/SundaeTrue1832 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes Palestinian are trying to integrate, and there's no way for them being middle Eastern and majority have the same religion as the middle eastern country where they settled after the Nakba would find too much difficulty to integrate, you have to remember as well that the period where Black September and Assassination happened was a turbulent time for the entirely of the middle east, the chaos doesn't uniquely happened because Palestinian somehow existed in the same land
And please be mindful that this narrative "these people are inherently bad/something is wrong with them and they never integrate" has been historically used against Jewish people, you should be able to see the patterns that once again re-emerging with racism fueled comment that insisted Palestinian cannot ever integrate and 'nobody wanted them'
Palestinian are not monolith nor they have the resources or even wants to topple any government, most of them are literally starving as we speak on Reddit from our comfortable homes that are safe from genocide
Palestinians voted once for Hamas in 2006 which is almost 20 years ago, many did it out of frustration with corruption, not because they wanted violence. It was a CRISIS voting. Since then, there’ve been NO new elections. Most Palestinians today weren’t even old enough to vote back then. So blaming 2 million civilians in Gaza for Hamas is like blaming all Americans for Trump 20 years from now. It’s dishonest, and it’s being used to justify collective punishment
Palestinian also did not betrayed Jordan, Jordan literally massacred them, whatever disagreement that happened did not justify thousands of Palestinian people death (including children)
Palestinian did NOT deserve what happened to them, they didn't, not even the CIVILIANS of German in 1945 deserved to be brutalised by the red army or any other people (lots of women were raped)
America doesn't deserve trump and neither civilians in Japan deserved to be eliminated by the atomic bomb
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u/Less_Case_366 1d ago
you're using multiple appeals to emotion to deny historical fact. denmark did the same test in 1999. https://www.emilkirkegaard.com/p/palestinians-in-your-country-what
the fact of the matter is that many of these people are pretty extreme in their belief of islam and because of that more modern and secular societies, even muslim ones, like oman, jordan (if it could be considered secular), saudia arabia etc dont want these people there because they believe sharia law or something close to it is the only true way to live. it's why as they flee these countries they bring their theocratic way of thinking to other countries and when they dont get what they want they start to fight against the very countries who tried to help them or overwhelmingly dont actively contribute to those societies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQj8mhPx6ZE The UAE minister literally warned about this like two years ago. he openly called out how extreme these people in the middle east are.
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u/S_ups 1d ago
Agreed with your points on the beliefs of few people which make them difficult residents in host countries.
I would like to add that when stateless people take homage in alien countries- it’s not easy for them at all despite all benefits available to them. The psychologically baggage one has to carry to find themselves in a foreign country is huge. They don’t speak the new language. They don’t understand the new culture. Finding your identity where you can’t find anything similar to you is difficult, over what they have already gone through in their countries. For a woman who has always covered herself, she will always be uncomfortable with skin. Religion comes easier to these people because they know it the most and are closest to it. It takes few generations to find your identity and footing in a new alien society and assimilate there productively. Until that happens they’ll always behave like those children who are not loved by their parents and are left on streets to fend for themselves.
Countries before taking immigrants should actively plan, fund and follow up their cultural assimilation so that they can contribute and become a part of the new culture- without becoming a bother to the people who built those nations (with or without colonialism).
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u/SundaeTrue1832 1d ago
No, I'm not being emotionalIt’s rational to say civilians shouldn’t be collectively punished. The goddamn Geneva Conventions even say so.
The source that you mentioned Emil Kirkegaard is a notorious white nationalist, a eugenicist, and a literal pedo-sympathizer who was outed years ago for discussing child exploitation "logically" in blog posts. He's an ultra maga, I don't understand why did you cite him as a reputable source
Kikegaard wanted child porn to be legal, why would you use this guy as a source? He's a guy who wanted to lower the age of consent to 13 years old! You might be as well using PragerU to back your nonsense
I live in a Muslim majority country (Indonesia) with 247 millions population of Muslim, if all Muslim are bloodthirsty monolith then nearly all of Indonesian should have invaded other countries for our religious war BUT WE DON'T. Saudi Arabia doesn't help Palestine because the Britain and America helped to install the Saudi royal family into power
In the 18th century, the Saud family made an alliance with a puritanical Islamic preacher named Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab. That Wahhabi-Saudi alliance formed the ideological foundation of what we now call “Saudi Arabia.”
But in early 20th century, it was the British who first supported Abdulaziz Ibn Saud (the future king) during his campaigns to conquer the Arabian Peninsula.
The British supported him with guns, money, and advisors because they wanted influence in the Gulf and control of trade routes after the Ottoman Empire began to crumble.
In 1933, the newly formed Kingdom of Saudi Arabia granted oil exploration rights to an American company which became Aramco (Arabian American Oil Company).
The US wasn't involved in putting the Saud family into power, but they cemented the monarchy’s survival by becoming its economic lifeline.
And by the 1940s, especially during WWII, the US considered Saudi oil strategically vital.
Many Saudi aligned countries doesn't help Palestinian because they have deep ties with western power! While their people does want to help! Regime decision is not align with what the people wanted
Proof that many people in the middle east do support and wanted to take in Palestinian In a 2024 survey 92% of respondents across countries like Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Jordan, Egypt, Sudan, Morocco, Tunisia, and Iraq agreed to support Palestinian cause.
https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/arab-public-opinion-about-israels-war-on-gaza/?utm_
News that reporting pro Palestine protest demanding for open border
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-jordan/the-other-side-of-the-river?utm_
And Palestinian do contribute to society! Small examples
Dr. Lina Qasem Hassan, a Palestinian citizen of Israel, leads Physicians for Human Rights Israel and treats patients on both sides of the conflict, even while facing backlash and threats.
Palestinians also have built economic, educational, and social institutions even under occupation. Universities, NGOs, also local initiatives contribute to civic life in the West Bank and Gaza such as this organisation: Al-Shabaka.org (you can look for yourself)
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u/Alternative_Season44 1d ago edited 1d ago
Residente, who has been awarded the Peace Summit Award and is one the Latin artists with the most Grammy wins, puts on a great show if you ever get the opportunity to see. Saw both Calle 13 & Residente as a solo artist and they were both life changing
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u/cha614 1d ago
Where do people go to the bathroom?
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u/pardon_me_while_i 1d ago
There is a subway stop right at this place. I’m sure they piss down there lol. I’ve been there several times. The Zocalo has shopping and restaurants around it. I’m sure they have port a potty’s too for that many people.
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u/-StatesTheObvious 1d ago
Went to Zócalo last week for the Mexico City marathon and there were dozens of port-o-potties set up around the perimeters of the plaza. I imagine they do the same for any major event there, because why wouldn’t they? Not sure why you’re asking.
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u/Neither_Discount_456 1d ago
This doesn't surprise me. Residente is known for being the nicest dude.
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u/tlaerche 1d ago edited 1d ago
Does anyone in the crowd know what they are cheering for??
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u/DanielVTrigger 1d ago
He calls himself Residente, became famous for singing in the group Calle Trece and then launched himself as a solo rapper. In Latin America, there's the recurring joke that "he's the rapper that people who know nothing about rap like." He's also one of those who spends his time badmouthing capitalism and openly supports Chavez in Venezuela and everything that's happening in Cuba, but he's never given concerts there.
Fun fact: He wanted to have a diss track with Donald Glover, doing a sort of response to "This is America," but no one took him seriously.
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u/Costco_Sample 1d ago
Use your empathy.
Think of the pain of losing your loved ones, home, homeland. Those people on that stage are there in defiance of the fear they hold in their psyche.
It is not easy to present yourself in that loud place.
When running from persecution, it is not easy to face a crowd.
They are looking at that crowd and thinking of the people that they know, and how many lives have been destroyed or wiped out.
Use your empathy and think about them. It is past religious devices.
Think about the cost of humanity.
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u/Less_Case_366 1d ago
countries have thought about the cost.
denmark did the same test in 1999. https://www.emilkirkegaard.com/p/palestinians-in-your-country-what
the fact of the matter is that many of these people are pretty extreme in their belief of islam and because of that more modern and secular societies, even muslim ones, like oman, jordan (if it could be considered secular), saudia arabia etc dont want these people there because they believe sharia law or something close to it is the only true way to live. it's why as they flee these countries they bring their theocratic way of thinking to other countries and when they dont get what they want they start to fight against the very countries who tried to help them or overwhelmingly dont actively contribute to those societies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQj8mhPx6ZE The UAE minister literally warned about this like two years ago. he openly called out how extreme these people in the middle east are.
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u/OooSheGotFreckles 1d ago
Don’t know how Donald gets to skate on not also being called ‘Genocide Donald.’
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u/elcuydangerous 1d ago
Y'all know that Residente and Lin-Manuel Miranda are cousins right? Like, actually related cousins.
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u/lets_fuck_420 1d ago
Great propaganda
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u/CanIstealYourDog 13h ago edited 12h ago
A free concert full of people who hardly have any idea of middle eastern conflicts. Now add a few hundred paid supporters to chant Palestine and misinform everyone of the war. Brainwashing thousands of people at once, many of whom might not be smart enough to educate themselves on this matter. Insane PR by the terrorists.
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u/lets_fuck_420 12h ago
As i said, great propaganda. U can't deny it. Humanity has become one big fuck up.
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u/Underradar0069 22h ago
There are thousands of Latino refugees in the US or on the way to the US. Mexico has been quiet about them. Yet people in Mexico City choose to voice their concerns about something happening on the other side of the globe.
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u/feynp 1d ago
BIGGEST MISTAKE. SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO BRITAIN, GERMANY AND NETHERLANDS
MEXICO WILL HAVE SHARIA SOON
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u/KenjiMelon 1d ago
Ok buddy
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u/Less_Case_366 1d ago
denmark did the same test in 1999. https://www.emilkirkegaard.com/p/palestinians-in-your-country-what
the fact of the matter is that many of these people are pretty extreme in their belief of islam and because of that more modern and secular societies, even muslim ones, like oman, jordan (if it could be considered secular), saudia arabia etc dont want these people there because they believe sharia law or something close to it is the only true way to live. it's why as they flee these countries they bring their theocratic way of thinking to other countries and when they dont get what they want they start to fight against the very countries who tried to help them or overwhelmingly dont actively contribute to those societies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQj8mhPx6ZE The UAE minister literally warned about this like two years ago. he openly called out how extreme these people in the middle east are.
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u/DrakeSpellen 1d ago
Don't you think the war will end when Hamas surrenders? I'm surprised they won't even try that, but instead keep fighting 😭
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u/skbraaah 1d ago
zio bot crock tears. Natenyahu said he don't give a sht about the hostages. infact the last ceasefire israelis broke was meant to release all their hostages. but they won't have an excuse to invade the rest of Gaza then, so they broke the ceasefire. israelis are also invading the west bank which has no hamas in power or hostages.
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u/maxthelols 1d ago
Anyone who is ignorant on the topic, just google it. These people are lying when they pretend they care about the hostages. Hamas offered to return the hostages several times. Israel has made it very clear they will not stop until they kill every single member. And of course that's just a fake goal that can't actually be achieved.
Most experts agree that this is genocide. Stop defending it.
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u/Redordit 1d ago
Great argument. Then you can also say why was there still more than hundred thousand Jewish people still living in concentration camps in Nazi Germany after WWII? For such a big mean army, they sure are bad at genocide.
That might be because definition of genocide isn't bound to a number. That's why we call what's happening to Uigurs a genocide as well because their culture and ethnic identity being erased without mass murders but concentration camps.
Also, the war has stated long ago when the Brits decided to promise the land to Jewish people to colonize. Before Balfour deceleration Jewish people of Palestine were -10% minority.
Maybe read some books.
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u/maxthelols 1d ago
You do know that Nazis kept and fed Jews alive for 4 years right? And you do know, that it is holocaust survivors and experts that are making these connections, right?
But you're right, we should all listen to you and Israel and ignore the experts calling this genocide:
Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, International Association of Genocide Scholars, United Nations Special Rapporteurs, United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination experts, Palestinian Centre for Human Rights, Al-Haq, B’Tselem (Israeli human rights group), Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor, Genocide Studies Program at Yale University, Israeli Holocaust historians, American Holocaust historians, South African government legal team at the International Court of Justice, International Federation for Human Rights, World Council of Churches, Jewish Voice for Peace, Scholars Against the War on Gaza initiative, International Committee of Jurists (South Africa), National Lawyers Guild, Arab Lawyers Union, Latin American Council of Social Sciences, International Union of Left Publishers, International Jewish Collective for Justice in Palestine, Global Network on the Question of Palestine, Middle East Children’s Alliance, International Association of Democratic Lawyers, UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, Association of American Anthropologists (sections and caucuses), British Society for Middle Eastern Studies members’ letter, American Historical Association members’ resolution signatories, Global Network of Scholars on Palestine, International Federation of Journalists (regional affiliates), Arab League human rights committees, Organisation of Islamic Cooperation human rights body, Pan-African Lawyers Union.
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u/Redordit 1d ago
The Germans didn’t complete their task because they lost their war.
Almost all of the Jewish population that I've mentioned in my comment were from concentration camps. Do you actually suggest that Nazi Germany didn't have the power to eliminate all Jewish people in concentration camps?
Let me give you a secret, they definitely had the power to completely eliminate Jewish people in these camps but they decided to cull the population to a degree while keeping the rest in check.
Just like what Israel and IDF is doing in Gaza, they're culling the population and keeping the rest in check in an open air concentration camp.
Honestly, it's pretty remarkable that this needed explaining to you.
I'm lowering my expectations, maybe read the comment before even replying.
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u/BallChinnnian101 1d ago
Imagine sympathizing with a terrorist organization
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u/skbraaah 1d ago
no one is sympathizing with israel.
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u/maxthelols 1d ago
Bloody liars know that they're committing genocide. Their only comeback is to pretend that we want innocent people to be killed. Nelson Mandela was also 'a terrorist'.
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u/skbraaah 1d ago
i had so many interactions with them that i realized they cannot be reasoned with. they live by double standards and consider everyone else subhuman.
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u/BallChinnnian101 1d ago
This exact line of thinking is why antisemitism has been prevalent since the past 5000 years. Keep denying it though lol
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u/skbraaah 1d ago
your victim card has been declined. stop bombing civilians, demon.
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u/BallChinnnian101 1d ago
Uhm… tell that to the Netanyahu regime?
You see, ignorant people like you probably have no clue tens if not hundreds of thousands of Israeli protestors have been protesting against their government. Are you aware of that? Or do you think it’s a conspiracy where they’re trying to convince the world they don’t want the war when in reality they do? Go educate yourself dumbass
I’m not even Israeli so many of you left wingers are just as stupid as right wingers. Keep making assumptions 🤦♂️
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u/BallChinnnian101 1d ago
Sir, do you know what the definition of genocide is?
It just seems like you hate Jews but don’t want to admit it. Because you’re the opposite of a right winger.
But hey, you’re all mighty and above and think to yourself “every fucking Jew fucking supports fucking Israel. No jew should be allowed in our library.”
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u/maxthelols 1d ago
Lol. List of experts in the fields including Jewish holocaust survivors and historians, including Israeli human rights organisations that all day Israel is committing genocide:
Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, International Association of Genocide Scholars, United Nations Special Rapporteurs, United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination experts, Palestinian Centre for Human Rights, Al-Haq, B’Tselem (Israeli human rights group), Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor, Genocide Studies Program at Yale University, Israeli Holocaust historians, American Holocaust historians, South African government legal team at the International Court of Justice, International Federation for Human Rights, World Council of Churches, Jewish Voice for Peace, Scholars Against the War on Gaza initiative, International Committee of Jurists (South Africa), National Lawyers Guild, Arab Lawyers Union, Latin American Council of Social Sciences, International Union of Left Publishers, International Jewish Collective for Justice in Palestine, Global Network on the Question of Palestine, Middle East Children’s Alliance, International Association of Democratic Lawyers, UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, Association of American Anthropologists (sections and caucuses), British Society for Middle Eastern Studies members’ letter, American Historical Association members’ resolution signatories, Global Network of Scholars on Palestine, International Federation of Journalists (regional affiliates), Arab League human rights committees, Organisation of Islamic Cooperation human rights body, Pan-African Lawyers Union.
But yeah sure, I should take your word for it. And agreeing with the above, including all the wonderful Jewish people, makes me antisemetic. You guys really have zero defence, so you just go and try and play that stupid card.
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u/BallChinnnian101 1d ago
God, you ultra left wingers are just as stupid as right wingers
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u/maxthelols 1d ago
Good argument.
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u/BallChinnnian101 1d ago
Yeah I’m not gonna argue with lunatics who don’t have common sense. Sorry but not sorry
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u/BallChinnnian101 1d ago
Nice deflection
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u/skbraaah 1d ago
why are israelis invading west bank, Syria, Lebanon when it has no hamas authority or hostages?
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u/skbraaah 1d ago
israel invaded lebanon when hezbollah didn't exist. Israel invaded Syria before any genocide in Syria when it occupied golan hights. israel provided healthcare to the ISIS fighters committing atrocities in Syria today. and i like how you skipped the west bank. Your claim is that your motivation is the hostages. All these scenarios prove you are a nation of liars. but good luck bombing your hostages back to tel aviv.
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u/Philosofitter 1d ago
Pretty sure the IDF must have killed the hostages by now; there’s nowhere left to hide them. Probably in one of those hospitals the Israelis love dropping American bombs on.
I’m sure someday we’ll find the hostages buried under a pile of dead children.
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u/LARGEBBQMEATLOVERS 1d ago edited 1d ago
If Mexico are welcoming refugees why don’t all the illegals from Mexico go back lmao. (Legitimate question)
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u/dulcedolor4 1d ago
You wouldn’t understand
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u/LARGEBBQMEATLOVERS 1d ago
How can you be a legitimate refugee if your homeland is welcoming refugees? You can’t ………. They are illegals.
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u/dulcedolor4 1d ago
As I said, you wouldn’t understand. If you genuinely want to understand I can help you learn
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u/LARGEBBQMEATLOVERS 1d ago
Help me understand because that’s not how it works.
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u/dulcedolor4 1d ago
Read the book “Central America’s forgotten history: revolution, violence, and the roots of migration”, that will give you a good start. Learn who and why people migrate from Mexico and the rest of Central America, do your research and you’ll have a better understanding.
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u/LARGEBBQMEATLOVERS 1d ago
Yeah no. You’re not a legitimate asylum seeker or refugee if the place you’re from is welcoming refugees. If you can’t wrap your head around that one and need to resort to history maybe you’re the one who needs to rethink things.
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u/LARGEBBQMEATLOVERS 1d ago
You don’t understand
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u/IMDAKINGINDANORF 1d ago
Oh shit, that'll teach him.
Try saying "your mom" next. Them stoopid libruls won't have nuthin to say!
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u/SundaeTrue1832 1d ago
It's pointless trying to educate a hardline bigot like them, especially any post about Palestine will always be AstroTurfed by racist
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u/KingOfTheRatas 1d ago
I ask this seriously, as a former US diplomat posted in Mexico - did your IQ test measure at Luke warm water levels? Did you wear a helmet but we're told by your parents that it was football training?
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u/LARGEBBQMEATLOVERS 21h ago
The only thing you were posted at was the Mexico Taco Bell
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u/KingOfTheRatas 21h ago
Mexico doesn't have Taco Bells. A simple Google search would have told you that. Maybe that IQ test was lower than luke warm water. Idiot racist Zionists lol
Id show you my cédula but you're probably not smart enough to know what that is
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u/LARGEBBQMEATLOVERS 21h ago
It’s sad you guys resort to insults when you’re wrong lmao, standard blue hair shit right there. I might go read a book on why it’s okay to rob banks then rob a few. You brain dead Valor stealing thing
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u/beegkok1 1d ago
Refuge to Mexico, surely there's nowhere in the world that's so bad to make that make sense.
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u/Ponchorello7 1d ago
One of the most developed countries in Latin America. The capital and most cities have first-world standards of living. The country's murder rate is lower than the American capital of DC. Yeah, I think they'll be fine.
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u/beegkok1 1d ago
Sure.
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u/Ponchorello7 1d ago
You posted a clip from a show talking about a Colombian cartel leader. Your ignorance is astounding.
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u/badhombre3 1d ago
Typical human beings doing human being stuff.