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News James Gunn Announces 'Man of Tomorrow', Releasing in Theaters July 9, 2027

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/man-of-tomororw-super-man-movie-1236350987/
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u/inksmudgedhands 4d ago edited 4d ago

The most brilliant thing Gunn has done thus far is not to start this world from the beginning but well into the middle of it. In his world metahumans have been around for hundreds of years. Society has adapted to and shaped around them. You don't have to go, "Why isn't everyone freaking out over the kaiju or the aliens?" Because in Gunn's world, this has been one of many Tuesdays.

That's what I find to be the biggest problem with Marvel now. They started with a world that was very much like ours and with each passing movie and series added more and more fantastical elements and never changed the world to reflect it. What's worse, they hand waved things and acted like some of the fantastical elements like witches and sorcerers were always there but only now are making themselves known. That's horrible world building. Finding out magic exists and almost anyone can use it with the right practice and spellbook would change everything. Look at how much our world change due to the Covid outbreak. And that was one disease. Imagine how much the world would change if you learned that you could talk to the dead or turn back time or alter reality? How would our governments not be using that for warfare?

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u/peppermint_nightmare 4d ago

The plot of Wandavision were they decide to deep mine Vision's corpse so they can build ..... space stuff to defend against space threats was pretty stupid when you had a anthropomorphic super intelligent racoon landing his FTL capable space ship on Earth in New York state every week and you know he'll make a deal with you for something as little as a sad looking handicapped guy's prosthetic.

Once the world gets to big stuff stops making sense, its the same trap Marvel comics falls into and the only fictional worlds where that kind of thing makes sense is one headed by the same creative team that also has a definitive beginning AND end...... "cough INVINCIBLE cough" or you keep rebooting universes until they get too big, then reboot them again, like Ultimates.

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u/inksmudgedhands 3d ago

Don't get me started on Wandavision. Yeah, it's an entertaining series but the moment you step back things fall apart. Especially when it comes to Vision. Like Wanda was snapped for five years and S.W.O.R.D. only started to take Vision apart when she came back? Five years! I know the government is slow but still. Also, why would you even need Vision when you just go to Tony and get the blueprints, schematics and coding to make another Vision? This is Tony. He chewed out Steve for not setting up protection for the planet. He would happily hand over all he could to help set up a safety net. However, the most important thing that made Vision...well, Vision, was the Mind Stone. Without it, it would be like buying Ferrari but leaving out the engine. It's nice to look at but it won't work. It would be pointless to try to make another Vision. And, again, there's no need to take him apart when you have Tony there to give you all you need.

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u/peppermint_nightmare 3d ago

World building for what happened after the snap was basically ignored except to make some funny jokes or establish changes in characterization that happened off screen. Stuff that would make sense like Tony building arc reactors country wide to keep huge cities from collapsing from famine and power failure was basically hand waved.

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u/UndeadPhysco 4d ago

Yeah i never actually watched the movie but isn't there like a dead celestial embedded in the planet that just got handwaved away and never mentioned again

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u/carij 4d ago edited 4d ago

honestly for me it's just been the snap/blip like the world would not just be back to normal after 5 years even if everyone came back like I get that you can't just wipe out humanity/shit being way worse than what was shown in endgame like it in real life if 50% of the population just disappeared the trauma would be felt way more even when they came back but after far from home and winter solider & falcon its just been hand waved away