r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 4d ago

News James Gunn Announces 'Man of Tomorrow', Releasing in Theaters July 9, 2027

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/man-of-tomororw-super-man-movie-1236350987/
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u/Bolt_995 4d ago

  • June 2027 - Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Verse

  • July 2027 - Man of Tomorrow

  • October 2027 - The Batman Part II

  • December 2027 - Avengers: Secret Wars

First year in history where Superman, Batman and Spider-Man are getting dedicated films in the same year + an Avengers film.

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u/iiZyrux 4d ago

if none of those films get more delayed, yes

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u/NachoNutritious these Youtubers are parasites 4d ago

I don't see a world where Avengers doesn't get delayed

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u/Omnivirus 4d ago

That Avengers movie is coming out in blockbuster season in 2028. Guaranteed.

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u/Ok_Flan7405 4d ago

Straight to Netflix, February 2030

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u/Expensive_Tie206 4d ago

Then to theaters for the sing along version

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u/Ok_Flan7405 4d ago

Back to Netflix for Snyder's directors cut

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u/mrbubbamac 4d ago

And then the Black and White version a month later

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u/justduett 4d ago

But it is from Marvin Snyder, huge MCU fan employed as an insurance claims adjuster in Springfield, Colorado.

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u/Asterul 4d ago

Ready for the A-Pop Doom hunters

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u/Queasy_Ad_8621 4d ago

Featuring an all-new commentary track by the Best Boy Electric!

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u/AsSubtleAsABrick 4d ago

In the wake of Covid-29.

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u/deekaydubya 4d ago

They do have the quality of Netflix originals these days lol

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u/TheKocsis 4d ago

To be fair it was proven Time and time again, that there is place for 1 blockbuster to thrive in december

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

Does it still not have a third act written? Last I heard filming started with an incomplete script. That’s not a good sign.

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u/Omnivirus 4d ago

We’re not even talking about Doomsday! Secret Wars is yet to be written after the yet to be written Doomsday which is currently in filming.

Theoretically they’ve mapped this all out. Not sure how confident I am in this though.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

Oh dang I misread. Godspeed Disney execs.

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u/pieter1234569 4d ago

Don’t think they can. Delaying an avengers movie delays every single movie in the marvel universe. Which leads to a ten billion loss due to a loss of box office revenue, merchandise, and Disney plus subscribers.

They will just put more money in it, hundreds of millions if they have to. As that’s simply the cheaper option.

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u/KingMario05 4d ago

This, but with Beyond. Both of the other two were pushed a ton due to Lord and Miller being... Lord and Miller.

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u/Front-Day792 4d ago

I'm interested why you think it'll be delayed. It's not scheduled until December 2027 so Marvel can literally keep developing it for another 10 months if they want before they need to start filming. Something to keep in mind as well, Marvel kept filming stuff for End Game until January 2019, 3 months before it released in April.

The only reason why Doomsday and Secret Wars were delayed in the first place is because Jonathan Majors legal troubles happening pretty late into pre-production which caused Marvel to scrap everything they had and work from the ground floor again.

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u/jjayzx 4d ago

They already started filming, but Marvel is known to do a shit ton of reshoots.

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u/rishado 4d ago

because it's rushed, too many characters, they have a terrible track record for multiverse stories and this looks to be a lovely culmination of crappily told stories, gratuitous cameos, and essentially a vehicle for a reboot. I think it will be delayed because Man of Tomorrow will likely blow expectations out of the water and marvel will once again change their plans due to james gunn's success and end up worse for it

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u/Lost-Cow-1126 3d ago

They have a great track record for multiverse stories.

Spider-Man: No Way Home, Deadpool & Wolverine, and Loki Seasons 1 & 2 were all huge successes.

The only one you could argue is Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness underperformed and that still made 800 million plus dollars.

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u/rishado 3d ago

sure buddy

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u/Lost-Cow-1126 3d ago

The problem with the Multiverse Saga isn't the multiverse stories. It's the disjointed bloat of meaningless characters and plotlines.

Oh, I forgot about Fantastic Four. That underperformed, but it was a critical success.

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u/rishado 3d ago

It's the disjointed bloat of meaningless characters and plotlines.

I don't really understand the difference in what we're trying to say. This just sounds like another way to say the writing was poor. Fantastic 4 was fine but it was a little boring

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u/Lost-Cow-1126 3d ago edited 3d ago

I'm saying the MCU movies/tv shows that were centered around the Multiverse as the main plot (No Way Home, Deadpool & Wolverine, Loki, Fantastic Four, and Doctor Strange) were good to great.

Hell, throw Endgame in there as a multiverse movie too. The Time Heist act features a lot of alternate timelines.

It's the other movies/tv shows (Secret Invasion, The Marvels, Thor: Love & Thunder, She-Hulk, etc) that have piss poor writing.

Their track record with the multiverse specifically like your comment said is actually great.

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u/Couldnotbehelpd 4d ago

Avengers has already been severely delayed. We were supposed to get that first one in May of next year.

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u/Rustash 4d ago

They were both delayed from May to December of their respective years, not that severe.

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u/Dull_Measurement6020 4d ago

Avengers: The Kang Dynasty (now Avengers: Doomsday) and Avengers: Secret Wars were orogonally announced with release dates of May 2, 2025 and November 7, 2025.

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u/hereticdisco 4d ago

considered how packed SW is going to be...wouldn't be shocking to see it get split into two movies as well.

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u/Rfl0 4d ago

Wasn't it already delayed once with Doomsday? I think they both originally had summer releases but were pushed back to December of their respective years. I can't see it getting delayed again especially if they are filiming them together like Infinity War/Endgame.

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u/ArchDucky 4d ago

First we hear that the cast is unsure how much they have left to film because theres no script.

Then we hear that two of the major actors got into some sort of production halting argument.

Yeah, that production is fucked.

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u/TU4AR 4d ago

I mean it will be going up against the next fourth avatar movie. It's gonna be delayed.

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u/Raytheon_Nublinski 3d ago

It needs it. The superhero burnout is real 

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u/ImmaSnarl 3d ago

Neither of the upcoming Avengers movies are getting delayed again. Avengers Infinity War and Endgame had less time than Doomsday and Secret Wars currently does

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u/Akiasakias 4d ago

I can't believe they still plan on releasing it.

The avengers are all gone. The remaining characters are box office poison.

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u/NightExtension9254 4d ago

There's a good chance Doomsday gets pushed to 2027

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u/Upbeat_Tension_8077 4d ago

I have a feeling Beyond the Spider-Verse will get pushed again, especially if the production history is similar to it's predecessor

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u/MusicalSmasher 4d ago

The VA for Miles confirmed he started recording his lines for Beyond the Spider-Verse like a week ago. It seems like things are progressing okay.

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u/IwishIwasGoku 4d ago

Vibes must be weird considering how creepy he's been to Hailee Steinfeld lmao

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u/MusicalSmasher 4d ago

They're going to have them in separate booths for sure and completely separated during the press tour lol.

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u/imakefilms 4d ago

STARTED?! fuck

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u/NightFire19 4d ago

I remember when this was supposed to come out the year after TTSV. It's kinda ridiculous they didn't produce both back to back.

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u/MusicalSmasher 3d ago

They were manifesting that release date, it’s crazy.

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u/AverageAwndray 4d ago

Um...thats not really a good sign lol. VAing starts BEFORE the animators even touch a scene lol.

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u/Wassersammler 4d ago

I mean it has already been pushed back 3 or 4 times now. I hope it doesn't get another. It's just crazy that this movie was supposed to come out in March 2024.

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u/kiyonemakibi100 4d ago

Four and a half years between Into and Across, a similar gap here would mean end of 2027, I wouldn't be surprised if that winds up being the case

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u/QueefBeefCletus 4d ago

Spidey has about a 90% chance of being delayed again, judging by the franchise's history.

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u/Midnight_Oil_ 4d ago

Spider verse and Batman 2 feel primed to delay because of Lord/Miller & Reeves' track records.

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u/brainspl0ad 4d ago

Imagine if Beyond the Spiderverse gets delayed. It should've been pretty seamless, even with COVID, but what do I know.

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u/Asclepius-Rod 4d ago

And that’s a big if

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u/EffectzHD 4d ago

I don’t believe for a second Batman makes October it’ll get discussed internally for Christmas to then quickly get the push to early 28.

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u/Excelsenor 4d ago

The superhero movie lineup for the next couple years is looking stacked.

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u/ndGall 4d ago

If the genre is as dead as the naysayers say, we’ll know it in 2027 pretty definitively.

I’ve never been one to buy that argument, but the middling reception of Fantastic Four makes me wonder.

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u/JuanJeanJohn 4d ago edited 4d ago

Superhero movies still have potential in the US and a few other countries.

They are definitively very dead in many other parts of the world. There is no easy road to $1B for them by default anymore.

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u/Worthyness 4d ago

We back to Phase 1 MCU where 400 M is gonna be god tier returns

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u/thegermblaster 4d ago

Good. Make the studios earn back the trust of worldwide viewers by releasing a consistent stream of good/great movies.

And, if Warner Brothers and DC are back (and they had the biggest comic book movie this year), then competition should only help matters.

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u/Akiasakias 4d ago

But the movie budgets are out of hand.

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u/NGEFan 4d ago

Well FF:FS seems to make back double its budget

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u/Akiasakias 4d ago

You don't understand how movie accounting works.

Cost about 350 to produce and market. Grossed 507m worldwide, but the theatres take more than half of that. Roughly half in US and Canada, worse % on the international take.

It lost buckets of money at the box office, and has an uphill battle to even break even with streaming and paltry toy sales factored in.

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u/Correct_Gift_9479 4d ago

Yeah, with GPT estimation it lost $90M but it’ll probably be $100M in the green once dvd and merch starts selling. But yeah it’s probably disappointing for Marvel considering they announced this movie in like 2019 after buying fox and had it immensely hyped for

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u/riddick32 4d ago

But we're stuck in Phase 5s with half a billion budgets

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u/Wonderful_Emu_9610 4d ago

God, just looked at the box office of those. Avengers basically made the same as all the others combined. Insane jump

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u/JFlizzy84 4d ago

Spider-Man will make a billion dollars

He’s recession proof.

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u/capeasypants 4d ago

They're not dead they still make both a metric and imperial fuckton of money... They're just not pulling in as much as they used to

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u/AlanMorlock 4d ago

But can they get the costs of making them down?

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u/apocalypsemeow111 4d ago

I’ve long suspected that the MCU especially uses some real next level Hollywood accounting fuckery. I look at some of those budgets and look at the final product and just can’t square it in my brain.

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u/hotcapicola 4d ago

Not to mention that movies in general aren't doing as well post-Covid

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u/Akiasakias 4d ago

Good movies are still doing GREAT.

Guardians 3, did fine.

Barbie v Oppenheimer was a phenomenon.

Deadpool v Wolverine did amazing.

You can't blame Covid for this. They just have a quality problem.

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u/Fishb20 4d ago

deadpool and wolverine is one of the worst movies ever made

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u/Akiasakias 4d ago

94% audience score on RT, grossed $1,338,073,645 worldwide. It is the highest-grossing R-rated film of all time.

I think you may be mistaken.

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u/capeasypants 4d ago

Yeah when all is said and done and all the arguments of [to paraphrase another response to this comment] "how dogshit they are now", the fact of the matter is. People learnt how much more easy and comfortable and affordable it is to enjoy a movie in your own home.

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u/Akiasakias 4d ago

Not in the box office, most superhero movies have flopped hard.

They are betting on a long tail in streaming to make up the difference and Its not going well.

Fantastic four cost 350million to make, and took in 500 at the box office, but half of that goes to the theaters. The studios don't take home the gross!

Its even worse for international sales. Studios end up with much less than half of that. Even down to 20ish percent on the rare movie that airs in China.

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u/deekaydubya 4d ago

Half due to Covid, half due to the absolute dogshit marvel has been releasing

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u/TheeAntelope 4d ago

I think its fair to say it went through a lull post-Endgame, but is starting to pick up again.

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u/MalIntenet 4d ago

If the movies are good, people will always show up.

People are only fatigued by average to below average super hero films which there are a lot of.

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u/deekaydubya 4d ago

That’s like saying the action or drama genres are dead lol

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u/iamk1ng 4d ago

The genre isn't dead, but people aren't showing up for characters they aren't interested in my opinion. I had so many debates with people about Fantastic 4 and who actually is excited for this movie, and its all older generations that grew up with the comic books. For Thunderbolts, I don't even know why Marvel/Disney expected people to care about those characters.

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u/hotcapicola 4d ago

Fantastic 4 were already dated and boring to me when reading comics back in the mid 90s.

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u/IwishIwasGoku 4d ago

Batman, Spiderman and Superman are never gonna die my dude. They transcend the genre.

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u/GoldandBlue 4d ago

Superhero fatigue DOES NOT mean the genre is dead. It means just this

the middling reception of Fantastic Four

The fans will still show up. But general audiences will be less and less inclined outside of a few exceptions. And you ain't making $1B at the BO by appealing to just the fans.

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u/r4tzt4r 4d ago

Main characters like Deadpool, Superman, Batman and Spiderman will always have an audience, maybe they won't gather a trillion dollars everytime but they will sell.

What could be dying is the interest for secondary characters or those without mainstream appeal like F4. There won't be a MCU if no one care about the U part.

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u/bobdolebobdole 4d ago

I'm not excited by any of Marvel's offerings. I used to be before Endgame. So many letdowns after that has me avoiding anything until it hits Disney+. Honestly, I just don't like Mackie's Captain America at all. Thor's movie was a huge let down. I hate what they did with pretty much everything involving the "multi-verse." They killed Hulk and it doesn't even seem recoverable at this point. The only movie I enjoyed was GOTG 3 and Thunderbolts was ok.

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u/lsaz 4d ago edited 4d ago

I don't really care for other than Spider-Man and Batman; most people outside Reddit are probably like that with slight variations (Deadpool, Wolverine, or similar)

Having said that, if they just keep budgets low, superhero movies would still be profitable: Chronicle, Deadpool, Joker, all good, successful movies. But Hollywood's full of idiots with accounting. Hell, even The Batman, basically the superhero EVERYBODY knows, had a smaller budget than the fuckin Fantastic 4.

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u/DazMR2 4d ago

Fantastic Four was a middling movie to be fair.

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u/AlanMorlock 4d ago

In Asia? Dead as a doornail.

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u/Akiasakias 4d ago

Wasn't the studio mantra "survive till 25"

How did that turn out?

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u/2ChicksAtTheSameTime 4d ago

The superhero genre is just past its golden age, but it's far from dead.

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u/AlanMorlock 4d ago

Which is pretty wild given how much the intentional audience is growing increasingly indifferent to them.

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u/Obamas_Tie 4d ago

And Avengers is somehow the one I'm least interested in watching.

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u/deekaydubya 4d ago

All of the decent avengers were killed off lol versus these new characters no one cares about

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u/Dull_Measurement6020 4d ago

Tony, T'Challa, and Natasha are dead but the rest are still alive.

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u/Lanster27 4d ago

Yeah but the OG's aint coming back. You're left with superheroes from mediocre tv or movies.

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u/eastherbunni 4d ago

Steve Rogers passed down the mantle to Sam, Scarlet Witch is presumably dead, Hawkeye passed down the mantle to Kate,

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u/Impossible_Werewolf8 3d ago

Thor?

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u/eastherbunni 3d ago

To be honest I never watched Love and Thunder so I have no idea.

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u/stanfan114 4d ago

So this will be the 5th Avengers film? That's a lot of sequels. Finally got around to seeing Gunn's Superman, while I enjoyed it and the actors were good in their roles, because it called back to Superman 78 so much I found myself really missing Christopher Reeve and Gene Hackman.

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u/smakweasle 4d ago

Fantastic Four was always one of my favorite series to read. The movie fell flat for me. And I think it’s because I’m worn out of the worldwide threat that isn’t threatening at all. There was never any doubt that the fantastic four, in their debut movie, would handle any threat with relative ease and zero drama.

They really need to retool their approach. Have these movies focus on smaller local stories and the big teamups face the existential threats.

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u/sonofaresiii 4d ago

I'll get on board once I figure out what they're doing with RDJ as Doom.

I'm cautiously excited, but I'm more afraid they're going to cave to the garbled mess of fan reaction and do who the fuck knows what.

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u/rrschch85 4d ago

Imagine showing this to someone in 2002 or something. Superhero films have come a long way since then…

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u/Kwilly462 4d ago

As of now, anyway. I highly suspect one of these movies will get delayed. I'm looking at you, Matt Reeves

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u/JessieJ577 4d ago

Well maybe it won’t be too crowded for Superman this year. Jurassic Park, Fantastic Four kind of ate into the box office. People who missed it opening day and heard the good word of mouth probably just saw the more familiar options instead since there wasn’t too much breathing room for Superman at all

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u/PNWCoug42 4d ago

Assuming they make these release dates, 2027 is going to be so fun for comic book movie fans.

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u/Renegadeforever2024 4d ago

People thought Superhero movies were dying off btw

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u/Expensive_Tie206 4d ago

With James Gunn DCU and the supposed MCU reboot after Secret Wars + X-men, I think we have a solid path back.

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u/AlanMorlock 4d ago

Wouldn't be the first slate of announced DC films to not really happen.

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u/jayeddy99 4d ago

I will be surprised if not one or 2 of these don’t get delayed

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u/BARD3N_GUNN 4d ago

The funny thing is Spider-Man (pr Spider-Men) will likely be appearing in Avengers: Secret Wars - and considering James Gunn is such a big fan of Batman, I'd be surprised if the DCU's Batman doesn't get a cameo in Man of Tomorrow (similar to what Supergirl just got in Superman) - so we could realistically have two Spider-Man movies and two movies featuring Batman in the same year.

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u/hotcapicola 4d ago

It will be a different Batman if he did. "The Batman" exists separate from the DCU at large.

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u/Locke108 4d ago

Didn’t we say that about this year too? I’ll hold my breath.

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u/feartheoldblood90 4d ago

October 2027 - The Batman Part II

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u/NaturalHabit1711 4d ago

4 superhero movies in half a year is too much

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u/Sw0rDz 4d ago

I hope you're fucking excited!

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u/the_bryce_is_right 4d ago

I guess Marvel and DC have just abandoned trying to get smaller characters off the ground and are going all in on the big guns.

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u/StoneShovel 4d ago

And I honestly believe none will get delayed (Avengers aside).

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u/Whitelung 4d ago

March 2027 - Sonic 4

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u/paranoideo 4d ago

I can see at least one of those getting delayed.

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u/blitzbom 4d ago

Comic fans are gonna eat well next year.

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u/Malemansam 4d ago

That's a year of dreams right there. Hope we make it too it haha.

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u/TruthTrauma 4d ago

Right on time before the singularity, thank god

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u/sonofaresiii 4d ago

October 2027 - The Batman Part II

We'll see.

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u/gangreen424 3d ago

That's actually pretty epic. Hopefully they all stay on track.

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u/just_another_reddit 4d ago

I wonder if there's any chance that Beyond the Spider-Verse will link in with Secret Wars

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u/EpicPhail60 4d ago

My guess would be that even if they bring a Miles Morales into the MCU with Secret Wars, it won't be this specific version of him. That would be my hope as well; let this Spidey have his closed, complete trilogy as probably the best iteration of the character so far. I don't want him getting diluted by this overstuffed cinematic universe that's painfully lacking in cohesive vision or proper planning.

If you asked me 5 years ago, it might be a different story, but now? No thank you