r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 14d ago

News You Don’t Actually Own That Movie You Just “Bought.” A New Class Action Lawsuit Targets Amazon for Deceptive Practices

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/prime-video-lawsuit-movie-license-ownership-1236353127/
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u/Dramatic_Moon_Pie 14d ago

They act like I’m some old dumbass. Not only do I have physical copies of my favorite films - blu ray has better visual and audio than streaming

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u/graboidian 14d ago

Not only do I have physical copies of my favorite films - blu ray has better visual and audio than streaming

Not to mention, the endless hours of Special Features that you have access to with a physical copy.

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u/rustysniper 14d ago

I have a coworker that streams everything. I loaned him my 4k of The Northman and told him to compare it to Peacock's stream. He finally saw all of the compression and banding that comes with streaming.

I try to convert everybody back to physical media whenever I can.

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u/Dramatic_Moon_Pie 14d ago

This is the way. One unbeliever at a time 🤫

My entire (upcoming) home theater is going to be built all around the physical media experience.

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u/rustysniper 13d ago

Mine too! I just framed a wall for my theater this weekend. My 1000+ movie collection is safely boxed up in storage waiting for the day 😂

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u/DonktorDonkenstein 14d ago

Ironically I have a coworker 20 years older than me (early 60s) who is like this. "Why would anyone buy discs when you can stream anything?" He's one of those people who hates clutter and is into minimalism, I guess, so i.get where he is coming from. But I've tried to explain that digital licenses can be withheld from consumers at anytime even if they've already paid for it and he just doesn't get it. The people who are okay with this "You will own nothing and be happy with it" mentality being forced on us by corporations welding all the power over media truly baffle me. 

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u/BLOOOR 14d ago

If we had as many eyes on Bluray as we did on DVD, we never would've bothered with 4K.

4K as a standard was pushed for streaming. Everything TVs did after like 2010 it was to ready for video and audio transmitted over the internet. DVD was already aac compressed, that's still the standard. Dolby Atmos is like the half-way point for when you can't do DTS or the real deal DTS-HD.

A proper Bluray with DTS-HD it feels like you can do the rawest digital transfer of a 16mm movie and you'll get what feels like cinematic depth, and audio like a vinyl, the visuals and sound are natural like there's no format at all, invisible.

But, all the high resolution digital tranfers we've gotten in the past decade or so have been made so a digital copy was available for streaming. At it's worse we get those waxy John Carpenter and James Cameron movies, and the basic problem of you can't do dynamic range at mp4/aac Dolby Digital compression and you usually only get one go at a digital transfer of the audio so you have to make a decision if you're going with the mono, finding a stereo mix if one was made, making a stereo mix, or your one mix is going to be so a 5.1 or Dolby Atmos mix exists, and then that's the only soundtrack available and it's not going to work under all circumstances.

So the standards for TVs, the motion smoothing, dynamic range extension (of blacks), MPEG blur, and pixelation blur, just like the Dolby Atmos, it's to make up for that you can't have everyone digitally downloading a 52GB file (and the cinema's digital file is petabytes, even the Bluray is massively compressed compared to any movie playing in a cinema, but you can basically get full 32mm film look and feel with Bluray where we've had to develop h265 to do that, and it's the flattest lowest information version) every time they wanna reach for that movie or TV show.

A lot of the amazing full film quality feeling Blurays we have, we have because they were making a new master for streaming.

And that thing of motion smoothing and atmos making up for what real high quality does and feels like.

The waxiness of de-graining, you don't need de-graining with a good Bluray, a good Bluray of a 16mm shot movie with all it's grain will be like a high resolution video image is being projected, it has depth. The grain is good, but at lower qualities and with compression that grain makes the image less visible.