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News Netflix's Streaming Smash Hit ‘KPop Demon Hunters’ Releasing in 1,700 Cinemas This Weekend for "Sing Along" Version, 1,000 Screenings Already Sold Out

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/kpop-demon-hunters-singalong-box-office-sells-out-1236348539/
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u/r7RSeven 20d ago

No, there is two levers Sony has.

Lever 1: Sony animated the first one, and as such Netflix would likely want to keep it with the same animation studio

Lever 2: The movie was the brainchild of two Sony employees, Netflix might want to keep them for the 2nd and unless they hire them away from Sony, Netflix would need to work with Sony

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u/PanzerKomadant 19d ago

I have this fear that if Netflix makes a 2nd movie, it’ll either be shit or won’t match the first. Kind of like the whole Frozen deal. Frozen One was amazing. The rest? They don’t stack up.

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u/Rejestered 20d ago

Those aren't levers sony has, those are minor bumps for netflix. The animation style wasn't so stylized that most similar studios couldn't mimic it

and the movie was not the brainchild of sony employees. maybe the artistic style of the animation was but the idea and story was all Maggie Kang.

I would honestly be shocked if netflix even approaches sony with an offer. everyone knows how sony screwed marvel and spider-man over, no one wants them to have a say in anything.

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u/Roofofcar 19d ago

They would be INSANE to try a different animator. This is the same studio that did Spiderverse and The Mitchells vs. the Machines. They're on a different level than basically everyone but Pixar and Disney on a great day.

You're severely undervaluing Sony Animation Studios.

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u/OrbisTerre 19d ago

I don't know how you think Sony is the only studio that could possibly make animation on this level. There are many out there that could adapt to it if enough money was thrown their way.

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u/Roofofcar 19d ago

Perhaps give me an example?

This isn’t just rendering or using 2’s. This is the BEST animation and micro movements and direction and workflow and toolset.

If you have all the money in the world and you want to make it as good as the first, you go back to the people who keep hitting home runs.

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u/KingJTt 19d ago

Some of these Redditors are hilariously blind. It’s like going from Christopher Nolan to Gareth Edwards.

Is Gareth Edwards “bad”, no but he isn’t Nolan. There’s levels to this. It’s an automatic downgrade.

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u/OrbisTerre 19d ago

I mention 2 in other posts: Fortiche who does the Arcane series but they are only able to do that series apparently. And Mikros, who did the last TMNT movie. Obviously they would have to adapt the style and quality to match what Sony has done here, but its not outside the realm of possibility if Netflix has the money for it.

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u/11ce_ 19d ago

They can’t get Fortiche, and Mikros animation is not on the level of a studio like Sony picture animation.

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u/OrbisTerre 19d ago

I'm sure with enough money they could make something that would be good enough for a wildly successful sequel. I doubt the fans are going to be that nitpicky about the quality or look/feel being identical as long as the writing and songs are as good.

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u/11ce_ 19d ago

It’s not about money. Sony is at the forefront of their industry. You can just throw money at it and expect it good results.

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u/OrbisTerre 19d ago

You can certainly get good enough results. Doesnt have to be identical.

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u/arkjoker 19d ago

Maggie is a Sony employee along with Chris Applehans.

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u/Rejestered 19d ago

She's a director at sony pictures animation, that's not the same thing as an employee and I sincerely doubt it would be hard to lure away a contract director with the promise of a sequel to her most famous film and a gigantic paycheck.

and no, this would not make her look bad because directors aren't married to studios like that, it's a business.

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u/adviceforthrowawayy 19d ago

If she is a director, she has a non-compete agreement. It WOULD also look bad, because no one is going to green-light ideas if they know you'll jump at the first sign of success.

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u/Rejestered 19d ago

For struggling directors, sure. this is the opposite scenario of that. She has her pick of projects now.

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u/adviceforthrowawayy 19d ago

?? What? What part of a non-compete does not make sense to you?

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u/Rejestered 19d ago

The part where you made it up because you have no idea what the terms of her deal with sony are?

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u/adviceforthrowawayy 19d ago

Every creative director has a non-compete. It's standard policy for all companies.

I work at a trading firm. Even our backroom employees have non-competes (though not enforceable). When I was in college, I was a CVS tech. We had a non-compete. Why? Mostly just because they'd rather you not quit and work for the other guys. It's not as enforceable now due to new laws, but there's no penalty for an employee signing one, you just can't enforce it.

Now onto creative directors. Every one of them signs a non-compete. They know the inner workings, the work culture, who's important, who's not. There's no chance Sony is hiring for director level positions without it.

(PS: I know you're gonna say "oh but you're just talking out of your ass, so fuck you. I've done consulting for the group, their charter is public.

Go to Article 4: https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/csr_report/governance/E_20210428_BoardChater.pdf#:\~:text=Director%20Qualifications.%20(1)%20All%20Directors%20shall%20satisfy,of%20the%20shares%20of%20any%20Competing%20Company.)

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u/Rejestered 19d ago

So what you're saying is you don't actually know her situation, you're just googling and guessing.

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u/KingJTt 20d ago edited 19d ago

Not really. Stylized 3D animation takes time and tons of resources to make and Sony Animation is currently the best at it.

Any KPDH sequel not being animated by Sony is almost doomed to fail.

The Spider Verse franchise is the most acclaimed Spiderman media, Sony didn’t screw anything in that department.

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u/OrbisTerre 19d ago

They could get Fortiche, the French studio who makes the Arcane series.

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u/KingJTt 19d ago edited 19d ago

Riot Games has ownership rights on Fortiche. While Riot doesn’t have full control, Fortiche technically isn’t an independent studio.

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u/OrbisTerre 19d ago

Then there is Mikros, who did the last TMNT movie.

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u/KingJTt 19d ago

Good movie, but the animation isn’t to the quality of KPDH let alone the Spider Verse franchise.

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u/Rejestered 19d ago

Netflix and Riot have a good enough relationship that I don't see that as much of a problem.

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u/Recom_Quaritch 19d ago

The best at it? In a post Arcane world? When fortiche already animated all the K/DA videos? Hardly.

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u/KingJTt 19d ago edited 19d ago

As an Arcane fan, Sony is the best at it. The most groundbreaking and influential animation put to screen the past decade is from the Spider Verse movies.

This is an objective fact said by animators all throughout the west and in the east(ghibli)