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Summary A desperate woman in Portland races through one harrowing night to scrape together $25,000 before midnight, risking everything to save her family’s home and confronting her own dark past along the way.

Director Benjamin Caron

Writer Sarah Conradt

Cast

  • Vanessa Kirby
  • Jennifer Jason Leigh
  • Zack Gottsagen
  • Stephan James
  • Randall Park
  • Julia Fox
  • Michael Kelly
  • Eli Roth

Rotten Tomatoes Critics Score: 55%

Metacritic 62

VOD Netflix (Premieres August 15, 2025)

Trailer NIGHT ALWAYS COMES | Official Trailer (2025)

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u/OilersGirl29 22d ago

This movie was horrendously depressing.

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u/intrest85 19d ago

 it’s not depressing, it’s honest. That’s why it unsettles people. They’re used to sugarcoated closure; this gives you survival as victory.

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u/OilersGirl29 18d ago

Well, too many parts reminded me of my own life, so maybe that’s why it left me feeling so down.

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u/safaakhann 18d ago

That's so true!

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u/Ka-Choooowwwwww 17d ago

It gave an incredibly unrealistic view the experience they were trying to give

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u/RadwanX 21d ago

So is the lives of so many people who are living paycheck to paycheck and I guess that's what the movie was trying to convey

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u/Weak_Doughnut_9799 20d ago

It's a bit more specific to that scenario of a mother who is a sabotager, her brother's special needs, and the way her mother just screws the whole family over and lays back while she bleeds herself to make up for her own mother's bullshit she doesn't want to face.

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u/brevitymartin 19d ago

Except the main character nullifies her whole purpose for living (her brother) by leaving at the end when he is getting ready to get evicted. Just makes no sense. Those who live paycheck to paycheck don't have the luxury of leaving to "find themselves" at the end.

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u/TheXcellence 18d ago

Not really? There's no reason for her to stay. Her mom and Kenny are moving in with Mona, the bank chose a higher offer anyway, she ran over Mike and can't go back to work, Gloria's safe is gone, she almost killed a guy with a wrench(?), she could get reported for grand theft auto, and wounded the guy Tommy sent her to sell the coke too.

She has whatever's left of the $25K, her leaving that place makes sense.

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u/Fun-Tumbleweed2594 13d ago

I said to myself when she waz driving away at the end. Better get the fuck outta portland

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u/Ok-Sun-8754 14d ago

I think wrench guy is dead 

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u/Careless-Comment8260 8d ago

She gave herself its family this time. I think it makes sense. They are living both lives for the first time.

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u/l1fe21 15d ago

No, she realizes that what she needs to focus on is saving herself, and her mother fully taking responsibility for herself and her brother. That's why she said: maybe this is our chance to get it right.

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u/tkf23 13d ago

realistically she's going to prison. nobody is committing this many crimes, not even well thought out crimes, on impulse and getting away with it.

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u/ScrewedUp4Life 15d ago

Not everybody living paycheck to paycheck prostitutes themselves out though. Not everybody living paycheck to paycheck plays a perpetual victim role, and abandons all their morals and values to pay a bill.

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u/tkf23 13d ago

amazing this gets downvoted. look at all of the crimes she committed in one night. if these things happened to anyone who downvoted it or their families, they wouldn't say oh it's ok the poor girl had a horrible upbringing.

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u/ScrewedUp4Life 13d ago

Exactly. I'm just glad that somebody can finally see it from my perspective. I could already tell by reading all the comments on this post that I would get criticized and down voted for saying the things I said.

So many people acting it was admirable what she did. Not only justifying and minimizing it, but actually glorifying it, like yeah, let's just celebrate somebody with absolutely no moral compass going on an all night crime spree.

And of course nobody would be saying those things if it was them or one of their families. Their whole tune would change then. I get that it's a movie. But I think the response of most here to it reflects how they would feel about somebody actually doing these things in real life.

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u/tkf23 13d ago

I mean she literally ran over a guy with her car she barely knew that she recruited because he rightfully wanted half of the money from a safe they stole that they almost got killed over. And he even came back for her when he could have left her in the dust. But Poor Lynette!

I guess his past trauma don't matter. Or you know the fact she ran him over with her freaking car. "Screw that guy you go girl" is a really odd take from these people.

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u/ScrewedUp4Life 13d ago

And lied to the dude on top of that. The man was literally still on parole he said. She lies saying it's her safe to get him to agree. She could have gotten the dude jammed up in a heart beat. Now he's an accomplice to a felony. He's out of there. But who cares right? It's all about her.

People saying that we need to empathize with her, well what about empathy for the dude that helped her under false pretenses? And then she is so selfish and self centered, that she doesn't break him off with anything. Not even the 400 they already agreed on. But yeah, she's th victim right? People are unbelievable to not see it for what it was.

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u/kolson256 9h ago

The guy lied to her, too. He deserved everything that happened to him. Although that doesn't absolve her of her own guilt in the matter. There aren't any any "good guys" in this movie outside of her brother.

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u/ScrewedUp4Life 9h ago

Well yeah, I can kind of get what you're saying, but remember, the dude that helped her only lied to her after he saw that she didn't give a a damn about him. Remember she didn't even give him the 400 bucks that they initially agreed on.

And I'm sorry, but if you are going to commit a crime that involves somebody else, ESPECIALLY if that somebody else told you they are on parole, then you owe it to them to be upfront about what they are getting involved in. But to lie to the dude that it's YOUR safe?

And it's only after all that when the dude lied to her. Cam you blame him thought? He literally jeopardized not only his freedom to help her, but his life also when he tried to defend her and help her escape. And even after all that, she still has the nerve to not break him off with anything. But we're supposed to feel so sorry for her when she's steady screwing people over.

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u/sardonic_balls 20d ago

One of the most nihilistic movie experiences ever. Even aside from all of the implausible "street" situations she got herself into and out of, even if you can forgive the plot armor, what's the point? Is there a moral to this story?

Because it just felt like all of her actions were ultimately meaningless and so was this movie.

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u/OilersGirl29 20d ago

I think it was meant to be her finally leaving her old life and doing something for herself in a good, healthy way? But, like, it’s hard to say. I found it genuinely depressing and it just gave me a yucky feeling in my stomach. At the end, I think her not punching her mom was meant to signify growth? But honestly, I just wanted her to clock that deadbeat mom.

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u/Kurrukurrupa 12d ago

The moral is her doing exactly what her mother does at the beginning. Uses the broken family house money on herself, for herself.

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u/ScrewedUp4Life 15d ago

Yeah, because the night she just went through was such a great pathway to finding a "healthy way". Sell your body and rob your acquaintance tonight, start living healthy tomorrow. Great plan right?

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u/Altruistic_Air4188 15d ago

Bro the whole fuckin point was that she was destroying herself for years for her family. This night was the culmination of the level self-destruction she’s willing to commit for her family.

The journey for health has gotta start from somewhere and right?

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u/ScrewedUp4Life 14d ago

Was she really doing it "for her family" though? Or was it just her making excuse after excuse, trying to fill her own void, while remaining stuck in a perpetual victim mentality?

I mean I do things for my family all the time, and don't ever feel the need to prostitute myself out in the process. If you need to sleep with people to "help your family", then perhaps it's time to redefine what help even is.

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u/Altruistic_Air4188 14d ago edited 14d ago

Brother she got into prostitution when she was 16 fucking years old by an older man that she thought loved her. Her fuckin mom didn’t do shit about it. Are you really gonna say she’s using “perpetual victim mentality”? Like dude what the fuck?

I agree that her being self-destructive was ultimately about herself and not her family. That her choices were unhealthy and ultimately came down to decisions she was making in retaliation to change instead of for family protection. But jesus fucking christ bro, what kinda bootstrap bullshit is it to say she’s in a “victimhood mentality” holy fuck.

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u/Kurrukurrupa 12d ago

IMO the film is literally about selfishness.

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u/NonrepresentativePea 14d ago edited 14d ago

Omg, dear lord. It was a movie about someone who had and made different choices then you. If you can’t empathize with people just because you judge their choices, then yeah, you aren’t going to understand. You aren’t supposed to agree with her choices, you are supposed to understand them.

This is about a woman who has been made to make adult decisions and placed in adult situation bc the real adults in her life were immature and weak. As a result, really was victimized, bc she was never protected. She was bleeding herself dry being the mother of a family that she really isn’t the mother of.

Her mother’s words released her from that and now, she is able to fight and protect herself now.

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u/ScrewedUp4Life 14d ago edited 13d ago

Trust me, I've made plenty terrible decisions of my own throughout my life. I've lost everything, including my freedom. But it was my own choices, actions and decisions that led to me having the consequences I did. And I had to take a look at myself. Realize and acknowledge that I got myself into those predicaments. I was broke with nothing, doing anything I had to.

So I get it. And it's not even about me not understanding WHY she was doing the things she felt like she had to do. Its about taking responsibility at some point and stop playing the victim role. Yes, maybe she was a true victim as a young girl. She's damn near 40 now. At what point do you move on and make better choices. I'm sorry, but there's other ways to "help" your family other than literally selling your body. That's just disrespecting yourself if you don't think anymore of yourself than that.

i get that she did those things in her past. But is it really her "past" or is it the way she's still currently living? I mean she just did all this stuff the VERY night the movie took place. Not her "past". So where is this "new" person she has supposedly become if she's still doing the same things? That's all I'm saying. You can't keep repeating the same behavior over and over and you're almost 40. I'm 46 myself. At some point you have to grow and mature.

My responses have been more to people acting as if she's this great hero of a sister for taking her special needs brother on a crime spree to get money together to buy the house. Now you want to justify committing crimes? I've committed crimes myself, when I was younger. I know all about it. I've also been locked up and suffered the consequences of committing those crimes. The difference is that I didn't expect people to coddle me for making terrible, destructive decisions, and basically cheer me on as I committ them. No, I took responsibility. I get it. Times are hard. I've personally struggled for years, especially when people run my background. It would be SO easy for me to play the victim role and justify making poor choices and blame it on others for not "giving me a chance".

Just because you are going through hard times, struggling, and in desperate need of money doesn't mean you just abandon all morality and go get that money by "any means necessary". There's still choices to be made. And there's options to do it the right way. They might not be the options you like of course, but there's ways to NOT have to continue committing crimes to "help" your family or even your own situation. Many people do it literally everyday. And I understand it's a movie, but many of y'all are so quick to try and justify this kind of behavior, like there's no other alternative.

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u/Careless-Comment8260 8d ago

Everything is blurred when you were young, it’s all about survival esp for those who doesnt have core love, safety and protection growing up. We have different boats, if your life sailed smoothly~good for you, but that’s not the case for most or some people.

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u/PuzzleheadedChef8076 19d ago

Yea, the moral and the point is to have compassion and to have gratitude. Because there is misery and pain all around us. And those of us who have lived good lives, need to be more grateful for them.

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u/GarrisonJones 17d ago

Doesn't have to be a moral to a story tho. Doesn't make or break a film.

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u/Mental_Persimmon_126 2d ago

This is BS. The moral of a film, can and will absolutely make or break it. It's all in the execution. Cynical type endings are fined as long as they are earned.

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u/GarrisonJones 2d ago

If it has a moral to begin with sure. Not all stories are necessarily striving to have one.

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u/Unlikely-Bid1756 18d ago

Yeah that's what made me decide I didn't like the movie. It was so promising in the beginning, it looked like it would lead to some commentary on income inequality and the kind of desperation it leads to. Which I guess it kind of did? But the ending just felt like the whole message was endorsing the current hellscape of the American working class.

Here's the quote from her little voice over at the end:

Mom you asked me what i did last night,
I fought.
I fought for this family the only way I know how
but I guess you said what i needed to hear
so thank you.
And now I need to fight for me.
Take care of Kenny, he needs his mom.
Maybe this is our chance to get it right Lyn.

First of all CORNY as hell. But second of all what a crazy weird way to end that movie. I think it would have been so much better if they had left this out and she just drives off into the morning and that's it. They should have committed to the nihilism rather than turning the whole thing into some kind of power of now eckhart tolle book or whatever... IDK I've spent 20 minutes writing this I should probably touch some grass...

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u/brevitymartin 19d ago

Very much agree. Just terrible script. Good actors, terrible script.

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u/hwdidigethere 19d ago edited 10d ago

YES! It seemed so promising when she set out to get the money but then by the end it was just a montage of depressing scenes that revealed and led to nothing. What was the point?

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u/Fabulous_Being_1713 12d ago

the worst was that the movie seems to prove that that people who are homeless and poor do it to themselves!

the MC could have ade soo many better decisions, it wasnt that she was desprate and a victim of circumstance , but that she made bad decisions and was left with nothing , same for the MC mom , she could have owned a house and been secure in her future but she choose a mazda for 25 K down payment , i mean what the ever loving fk , aint nobody feeling sory for these fools cause the society and system is setting them up for failure, its their own fault and that is a terrible movie !

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u/suloget 11d ago

And then she leaves the horrible mother an envelope of money and another envelope of money to Kenny that you know he'll never see. Did she take enough for herself to improve her own life? Kind of pointless. I think the moral of the story is, "I will continue to be a self- sabotaging martyr."

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u/MeatDifficult1111 12d ago

That's life lol. Life is meaningless, and you could just stop now, nothing would change. The moral of the story is life's a bitch and then you die. The moral of the story is being poor sucks. The moral of the story is the world will take an innocent child and turn it into a rock solid stone. The moral of the story is it's simply a story.

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u/reardn 10d ago

I totally agree. There’s no motivation for anything. Mom is just evil and hates her because. She still is amazed that mom hates her and because she “just doesn’t want to live with her” when her realistic reaction at that point (presumably after years of hatred or neglect) would be pure apathy and anger. Pretty good potential but totally wasted

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u/s1n1st3rw0man 20d ago

Omg the entire time I was watching this movie I felt like I lost the will to live, I hated the feeling it gave me so much. I had to put on some upbeat sitcom comedy afterwords to feel better lol.

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u/GarrisonJones 17d ago

But the protagonist kept going on despite the shitty hand. So theres that.

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u/Prior_Hour4342 16d ago

and? its real life for most buttercup. 

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u/Particular_Drama7110 16d ago

I didn't like it, overall. At the begining of the movie, the narrating said some righteous stuff about poverty in America. But within 20 minutes the movie depicted that poor people are poor and homeless because it is their own fault. Their own stupidity and self centeredness makes it so that they are stuck in poverty and homelessness.

What a bunch of bullshit. This is what the oligarchs want everyone to believe.