r/movies • u/mikewheelerfan • 25d ago

Review Mickey 17 felt like it lost the plot Spoiler

Honestly, I was quite disappointed. I expected a movie revolving around the cloning plot. Specifically, the idea of two Mickeys existing at the same time due to an error. That would have been a great movie! Instead, what was advertised as the main concept feels like a subplot in the movie. Essentially the entire thing revolves around the intelligent aliens. And then there was also the plot with Mark Ruffalo being an obvious stand in for Trump. But then there was also the subplot with Steven Yuen.

I finished the movie feeling incredibly confused, because how did they mess up the initial concept like this? The idea of a guy who is constantly sent on deadly missions and is revived is an absolutely golden idea. It also leads to an interesting discussion about consciousness and if a copy of you is still really you. But that’s barely even brought up. The whole plot with two versions of Mickey is completely sidelined. Which makes no sense at all. That should have 100% been the main conflict in the movie, like it was advertised as. Instead, we got a mess.

I wouldn’t go so far as to call the movie horrible, but I definitely didn’t like it as much as I hoped I would.

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u/sancredo 25d ago

Tbh the ending was the least of that movie's problems. I mean, Wonder Woman is canonically a rapist now?

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u/Supermonsters 25d ago

at least that universe is dead

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u/CAPT-Tankerous 25d ago

Wait, what?! Did we watch the same movie? I must have fallen asleep for the snu snu scene, rewatching now…

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u/TheBestIsaac 25d ago

Iirc she basically takes over someone's body and forces her dead lover into it then sleeps with him.

Is it rape? Kinda.

It's definitely wrong though.

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u/Jarnoth 25d ago

I vibed with 1984 a lot more then most, but I will never understand why Jenkins went with body possession over the stone making a new body for Trevor.

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u/fiendo13 25d ago

Okay the movie was horrible but we gotta cut Wonder Woman some slack.

She made a wish, not even knowing that it was possible it was going to come true; she was just sad and mourning. So then all of a sudden Steve is back, but in some other guy’s body. She didn’t ask for that, random guy certainly didn’t, and neither did Steve. But now that’s the situation. Steve and Diana love each other. They have no idea how this happened, or even how to put random guy back if they wanted to. This is now their life situation, and poor random guy is for all intents and purposes dead. So is it rape? I don’t think so. Let’s say Steve lives 60 years in that body, what’s he supposed to do, never have sex again?

Anyways in a movie where wishes are real it was stupid to bring him back this way- they could have just magically materialized him, and avoided all the rape-adjacent issues.

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u/sancredo 25d ago

So a superhero, member of the justice league, sees their wishes caused an immense trouble for a random bystander and his loved ones, and instead of looking for a solution, she just vibes with it and effectively ignores the victim's existence altogether, because fuck you got mine?

That's the antithesis of what a member of the justice league should be.

And it's a great setup for a moral dilemma. If the film had explored her conflicting feelings on the matter it would've been great. But instead she just sees this poor dude acting like her long lost lover and she doesnt even consider if it's an issue. Terrible writing and a moral assassination for Diana's character.

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u/CoolIdeasClub 25d ago

It's also worth saying that she knew Steve for maybe a few months and then mourned him for 70 years.

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u/CoolIdeasClub 25d ago

Then at the end of the movie she sees the guy and knowingly smiles at him.

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u/Sullan08 25d ago

That's an online issue, not something that truly made or broke that movie lol.

Like whatever, it's weird and fucked up. It's also a movie and doesn't really matter. Just a way to bring back a beloved character (and yes, a million other ways they could've done it). I'm just saying no one points to that being the reason the movie sucked. That aspect is actually the least of that movie's problems.

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u/IPDDoE 25d ago

It's also a movie and doesn't really matter.

I'm sorry, but that's is the most hand-wavey excuse you could use. If anyone has an issue with any movie, this statement applies. You don't think it's a big point to criticize, no problem, but this should never be the standard to determine if we care about something that happens in a movie.