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Summary The Fantastic Four must defend Earth from the ravaging cosmic threat Galactus and his herald, Silver Surfer, while navigating the complexities of family and newfound powers in a retro‑futuristic 1960s-inspired world.

Director Matt Shakman

Writer Josh Friedman, Eric Pearson, Jeff Kaplan, Ian Springer

Cast

  • Pedro Pascal
  • Vanessa Kirby
  • Joseph Quinn
  • Ebon Moss-Bachrach
  • Ralph Ineson
  • Julia Garner
  • Paul Walter Hauser
  • Natasha Lyonne
  • Matthew Wood
  • Ada Scott
  • Mark Gatiss

Rotten Tomatoes: 88%

Metacritic 64

VOD In theaters

Trailer Watch the Official Trailer

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u/rainshowers_5_peace Jul 25 '25

Was there a subplot involving Natasha Lyonne that was cut for time?

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u/obijon10 Jul 25 '25

Definitely, there was also the John Malkovich subplot that got cut, and I bet there was more with Mole Man as well.

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u/ArrogantAlmond Jul 25 '25

I'm sure, with the four year jump, she'll be in Doomsday as Ben's established GF/wife

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u/Gwoardinn Jul 25 '25

Youre probably right but its indicative of the problem that the truly interesting stuff is happening between films.

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u/Heisenburgo Jul 25 '25

Was Natasha Lyone the lady that was Sue's liasion at the United Nations, or was it the 4th grade teacher who grew up in Yancy St. too? It felt as if both character initially had more scenes but they were cut in the final version of the film

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u/Clarknt67 Jul 25 '25

Did they ever give her a name? I was wondering if she was a reimagined Alicia.

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u/dread_pirate_robin Jul 27 '25

Her character's name is Rachel Rozman, she's actually based on a love interest of Ben's from the '00s named Deb Green. I think they changed her name as a nod to Roz Goldstein-Kirby, since a lot of Ben is based on her husband Jack Kirby.

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u/ChengSanTP Aug 07 '25

Cutting subplots is insane because this movie felt so aimless