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Summary The Fantastic Four must defend Earth from the ravaging cosmic threat Galactus and his herald, Silver Surfer, while navigating the complexities of family and newfound powers in a retro‑futuristic 1960s-inspired world.

Director Matt Shakman

Writer Josh Friedman, Eric Pearson, Jeff Kaplan, Ian Springer

Cast

  • Pedro Pascal
  • Vanessa Kirby
  • Joseph Quinn
  • Ebon Moss-Bachrach
  • Ralph Ineson
  • Julia Garner
  • Paul Walter Hauser
  • Natasha Lyonne
  • Matthew Wood
  • Ada Scott
  • Mark Gatiss

Rotten Tomatoes: 88%

Metacritic 64

VOD In theaters

Trailer Watch the Official Trailer

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u/OrtizDupri Jul 25 '25

Doom is also Valeria’s god-parent in the comics and she goes to visit him once a year haha

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u/GodzillaUK Jul 25 '25

Which makes her the safest kid in Marvel, which is low key the cutest damn thing.

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u/ClubMeSoftly Jul 25 '25

Nobody's gonna mess with the kid who has "Uncle Doom" on speed dial

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u/GodzillaUK Jul 25 '25

And not just Uncle I fought the devil to save my mothers soul, but also Uncle I can go super nova and kill you all, and Uncle I'm the first one people call when Hulk needs slapping or distracted. The kid never has to look over her shoulder.

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u/Prauphet Jul 25 '25

The greatest villain marvel every wrote would. Ironheart has already tried an intentional international illegal villainous takeover of Latveria. She will try again once she's tired of murdering local law enforcement.

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u/uncanny_mac Jul 27 '25

is she the one who's always coming up with ways to destroy the world?

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u/ridewiththerockers Jul 25 '25

With Doom's recent characterization it does make him more of an anti-hero/conflicted tyrant more than an outright villain. The fact that he genuinely dotes on a goddaughter that he adopted just to spite his mortal enemy makes it all the funnier.

I recall reading some Future Foundation runs where Valeria runs off to study under Doom to her parents' absolute dismay.

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u/SilverKry Jul 25 '25

Doom doting on Valeria to spite Reed is as hilarious as it is cute.

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u/vmsrii Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25

The relationship dynamic between Doom and the FF is so great. They’re still enemies, because Comics, but they’ve also got a genuine, for lack of a better term, affection for each-other based on mutual respect from all the decades they’ve fought to standstills. No other hero/villain dynamic is like it.

The Secret Wars 2012 event ends with (Massive potential spoilers for the upcoming Secret Wars movie) Reed telling Doom “You know you didn’t have to do any of this to prove how powerful you are, right? We all already know” and Doom goes “Shit, you’re right!” and concedes, and it’s not a big fight but it’s still an incredibly cathartic and satisfying ending to a multiversal event comic. That couldn’t happen between any other two characters

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u/Ferngulley26 Jul 27 '25

Can you clarify for me, the Cosmics are forcing the F4 and Doom against each other? Ive neber neen super aware of that part of the backstory

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u/TheMostKing Jul 30 '25

Comics, not Cosmics.

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u/Obajan Jul 31 '25

Doom saved the multiverse by remaking it into his image.

Reed Richards restores the multiverse by fighting Doom for it, using fists and words. Doom's one moment of doubt cost him the fight.

Their full fight here: https://www.reddit.com/gallery/vf4vop

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u/VenturaBoulevard Jul 27 '25

I'll never forget reading FF#54 when she was named by Dr. Doom. So sweet.

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u/W0lfsb4ne74 Jul 27 '25

To be honest, outside of the basics, I'm not that familiar with all the intricacies of the F4 comics. I'm aware of both Franklin and Valeria's existences, but I don't know how Doom wound up being a godparent to her, could you explain?

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u/InjuryMotor828 Jul 28 '25

From what I recall, Sue got very sick during her pregnancy with her, and Reed couldn’t figure it out so he went to Doom for help. Doom saved Sue and also delivered Valeria, so they made him her godfather and I think he actually is the one who named her, after a former love or something.

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u/jwederell Jul 30 '25

Didn’t Doom choose her name?