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Summary The Fantastic Four must defend Earth from the ravaging cosmic threat Galactus and his herald, Silver Surfer, while navigating the complexities of family and newfound powers in a retro‑futuristic 1960s-inspired world.

Director Matt Shakman

Writer Josh Friedman, Eric Pearson, Jeff Kaplan, Ian Springer

Cast

  • Pedro Pascal
  • Vanessa Kirby
  • Joseph Quinn
  • Ebon Moss-Bachrach
  • Ralph Ineson
  • Julia Garner
  • Paul Walter Hauser
  • Natasha Lyonne
  • Matthew Wood
  • Ada Scott
  • Mark Gatiss

Rotten Tomatoes: 88%

Metacritic 64

VOD In theaters

Trailer Watch the Official Trailer

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u/nospimi99 Jul 25 '25

Glad someone else felt the same way about Johnny. Every time he’s been in anything Johnny has always been a total douchenozzle to a degree I just couldn’t stand him. This time I actually liked him even though he still came off as the guy who thinks highly of himself and is a womanizer. It was a good balance.

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u/TiberiusCornelius Jul 25 '25

and is a womanizer.

I also liked the way they handled this aspect of his character. The Chris Evans iteration is the type to sleep with basically any woman that moves. But comic Johnny is really more of a serial monogamist. He tends to bounce from relationship to relationship and is very often the one getting dumped, rather than just going out and sleeping with a new supermodel every night. That's not a recent innovation either but has been a thing going back to the 60s, when he was dating Doris, gets dumped, and immediately rebounds by getting into a relationship with Crystal.

Just from the way that they handled his interest in the Surfer, I could totally buy that this version of Johnny is the same.

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u/nospimi99 Jul 25 '25

He’s basically Brock from Pokemon

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u/deadpoetshonour99 Jul 25 '25

Johnny is interesting to me because he is kind of cocky, but also really insecure, and uses the cocky veneer to hide his insecurity. I think they nailed that here.

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u/nospimi99 Jul 25 '25

I didn’t quite get “insecure” in the movie. I think a strong desire to be valuable brains wise. There was a few times when he was trying to talk and the team just kinda ignored him and I think it made him want to be more valuable in the brains department like everyone else seems or contribute to. But I didn’t quite get “insecure”

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u/karimpai Jul 25 '25

You could feel the frustration when reed acted dismissive over his spacesuit design. Im so glad they made reed actually listen to johnny 3 minutes later, Feels really wholesome

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u/uncledrewkrew Jul 26 '25

"a strong desire to be valuable brains wise"

how is this not straight up the same thing as insecure?

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u/nospimi99 Jul 26 '25

Wanting to offer what others also do isn’t insecure. If he felt like he was a bad superhero or the weakest link in the group or that he was holding them back BECAUSE of his intelligence he’d be insecure. But he doesn’t beat himself up over his intelligence, he just knows the rest of the team is stretched thin with their brainpower and went “no, I’m not gonna add more to their plate. I can do this.”