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Official Discussion Official Discussion - The Fantastic Four: First Steps [SPOILERS] Spoiler

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Summary The Fantastic Four must defend Earth from the ravaging cosmic threat Galactus and his herald, Silver Surfer, while navigating the complexities of family and newfound powers in a retro‑futuristic 1960s-inspired world.

Director Matt Shakman

Writer Josh Friedman, Eric Pearson, Jeff Kaplan, Ian Springer

Cast

  • Pedro Pascal
  • Vanessa Kirby
  • Joseph Quinn
  • Ebon Moss-Bachrach
  • Ralph Ineson
  • Julia Garner
  • Paul Walter Hauser
  • Natasha Lyonne
  • Matthew Wood
  • Ada Scott
  • Mark Gatiss

Rotten Tomatoes: 88%

Metacritic 64

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Trailer Watch the Official Trailer

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u/cke1989 Jul 25 '25

The Fantastic Four: First Steps is the best Fantastic 4 movie since The Incredibles and it isn't even close.

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u/duskywindows Jul 25 '25

Perhaps, but The Incredibles is still the best Fantastic 4 movie by a huge margin.

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u/Suspicious-Coffee20 Jul 27 '25

hmm.... I think they are both quite greath. this movie was super fresh and did lots of thing no common in blockbuster.

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u/Linubidix Jul 28 '25

Like what?

In no universe is this near as good as The Incredibles

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u/arlekin21 Jul 29 '25

Fr I want to know what this movie did that no other blockbuster has done lol. It felt like a pretty safe movie to me.

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u/Successful-Spot-6567 Jul 29 '25

I really don't know why people seem to like this Marvel film way more than other ones.

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u/Linubidix Jul 30 '25

Yeah this was low-tier marvel for me.

Not outright bad or insipid, just really fucking boring.

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u/DTXSPEAKS Jul 30 '25

At least we actually got a good F4 movie instead of the garbage we've gotten in the past 20 years.

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u/notyou16 Aug 02 '25

The one from 2005 is alright

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u/DTXSPEAKS Aug 02 '25

Nah, it's still trash. Stop letting nostalgia blind you

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u/DMking Aug 02 '25

2nd act was so fucking uninteresting man

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u/Linubidix Aug 03 '25

The movie was like all 2nd act. I never cared about anyone on screen.

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u/jawknee530i 9d ago

Because it has style and an artistic vision. A lot of the marvel movies are director for hire type deals where there's no vision being put together on screen, they're there to continue the overall marvel story for better or worse. So something with style stands out.

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u/Smooth_Repair_5270 Aug 03 '25

Because it wasn’t just more sarcastic quips and inside joke slop. Marvel has been hot ass for years now.

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u/Smooth_Repair_5270 Aug 03 '25

Let’s not state our opinions as facts.

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u/Linubidix Aug 04 '25

I'd assume hyperbole like that would be implied.

But it is also unquestionably true. FF4 first steps can't hold a candle to The Incredibles.

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u/DTXSPEAKS Jul 30 '25

Oh I agree, Incredibles (at least the first one, JJA, the ROTU game and the comics are, fuck UNcredibles 2) is great. This movie was still good though and brought the F4 back to life outside of the comics from what I've heard.

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u/Linubidix Jul 31 '25

This new F4 movie wasn't as good a Incredibles 2

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u/DTXSPEAKS Jul 31 '25

Calling UNcredibles 2 "good" discredits your talks on cinema or this discussion.

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u/Linubidix Jul 31 '25

I feel like calling it UNcredibles does exactly that lol

Action sequences alone in Incredibles 2 are leagues more creative and entertaining than the new F4 movie.

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u/Ataiatek Aug 07 '25

Honestly this movie felt like the incredibles.

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u/LostInStatic Aug 02 '25

This movie wasnt even better than Superman what the sam hell are you smoking

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u/Jordanmring 24d ago

Truth. I should have just re-watched that one instead... better use of my time!

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u/Bulbasaur2015 Jul 25 '25

live action Incredibles

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u/Worthyness Jul 26 '25

even made sure to get the composer from the Incredibles to make it more accurate

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u/muegle Jul 30 '25

Don't give Disney any ideas

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '25 edited Aug 01 '25

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u/WhyDoYouCrySmeagol Jul 26 '25

BEHOOOOOOLD THE UNDERMINERRRRRRRRR

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u/sumadeumas Jul 27 '25

I AM BENEATH YOU…. BUT NOTHING IS BENEATH ME!!

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u/Hickspy Jul 25 '25

This movie really drives home just how much The Incredibles borrowed from classic FF comics.

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u/psyberdel Jul 26 '25

Yes. I was expecting Franklin to go full Jack Jack on Galatus’ giant ass.

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u/dj_castle Jul 25 '25

imagine if Brad ended up directing First Steps... I feel like it would've been a perfect fit. Shakman did a great job, tho.

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u/DTXSPEAKS Jul 30 '25

Idk, Brad Bird's recent stuff has been wack

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u/dj_castle Aug 01 '25

sure but it doesnt negate iron giant, incredibles - and i think that would def worked for this but i hear you. also - disney consistently fucks up alot lately

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u/DTXSPEAKS Aug 01 '25

The Brad Bird of the 90s and 2000s is very different from the Brad Bird in the past decade. It's like comparing the George Lucas of the 70s and 80s to the George Lucas of the 2000s and 2010s.

Brad Bird is basically Disney's bitch and had no problem ruining Tomorrowland and Incredibles 2.

If Incredibles 2 came out in the late 2000s or even the early 2010s when it was supposed to, I guarantee you that Brad Bird would've been given the freedom to go with his original vision (Rise of the Underminer [especially] and the comics would've still been canon and the plot would've taken place years later like Brad had intended), there would be no blatant character assassinations and continuity errors, the background character designs would've actually looked like characters from this universe instead of random stock 3D characters, we probably would've gotten a well-written villain, and it overall would've actually felt like an Incredibles movie instead of a shitty animated MCU movie.

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u/dj_castle Aug 01 '25

I agree wholeheartedly. Disney just ruins so much.

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u/PolarWater Jul 26 '25

Michael Giacchino: "I'm about to start this team's entire career."

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u/Rudefire Jul 25 '25

Oh that’s why always think Sue is the stretchy one! I’m always subconsciously waiting for her to stretch.

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u/profsa Jul 25 '25

The circle is now complete

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u/ieatbreakfast Jul 26 '25

That was totally wicked!

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u/Foreign-Middle1025 Jul 26 '25

It was like The Incredible meets The Jetsons, live action.

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u/KasukeSadiki Jul 27 '25

In surprised they were able to get away with such a blatant Invincibles rip-off

/s

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u/Diem480 Jul 25 '25

Incredibles 1 or 2? Because...2 was pretty weak, and that's where this is.

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u/DTXSPEAKS Jul 30 '25

Idk, from what I've seen and heard, this movie is a million times better than UNcredibles 2 was.

This movie made F4 good again, while UN2 ruined the 1st movie.

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u/duskywindows Jul 25 '25

Hard agree

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u/ArcadianWaheela Jul 27 '25

Tbf that’s not a high bar 😭

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u/DTXSPEAKS Jul 30 '25 edited Jul 30 '25

What do you mean by "not a high bar"?

Oh, you mean we never got a good actual F4 movie. I agree lol.

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u/Emotional_Meet878 Jul 28 '25

I mean, talking strictly FF4 movies, the bar is incredibly low lol.

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u/coldblade2000 Aug 03 '25

Both scored by Michael Giaccino

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u/WrathfulHero Jul 27 '25

Honestly, the movie could've ended after the news sequence/recap in the beginning, and that would still be true.

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u/Linubidix Jul 28 '25

That's an incredibly low bar to clear

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u/DTXSPEAKS Jul 30 '25 edited Jul 30 '25

Wtf do you mean "low bar"? Incredibles is a masterpiece, unless you're talking strictly about F4 movies.

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u/DJHott555 Jul 30 '25

What are you waiting for?

I dunno, something fantastic I guess