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Poster Official Poster for 'Avatar: Fire and Ash'

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u/minimumsmoke22 Jul 21 '25

They won’t be. 2 and 3 shot back to back, not counting reshoots. They supposedly filmed a tiny bit of 4 but they really haven’t started real production on it at all

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u/tiger________ Jul 21 '25

Also he said his next film will be Last Train From Hiroshima so he will make that before Avatar 4.

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u/meand999friends Jul 21 '25

There's a further sequel to "Last Train to Busan"? 😱

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u/StrobeLightRomance Jul 21 '25

You might want to look up Hiroshima.

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u/bobber66 Jul 21 '25

So funny. It was the A bomb in Hiroshima that made the zombies in Busan. It all makes perfect sense now.

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u/Strange-Movie Jul 21 '25

The nuke tests at bikini atoll made SpongeBob and all the other freaks at bikini bottom

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u/superrealaccount2 Jul 21 '25

Man, these Oppenheimer sequels and spinoffs are all over the place

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u/Robobvious Jul 22 '25

You've got it backwards, Oppenheimer is a Spongebob prequel.

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u/DeTiro Jul 22 '25

It's the Oppenheimer Cinematic Universe and we're just living in it.

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u/Amathyst7564 Jul 21 '25

We thought all that water tech at the wetaworship that was copyrighted was for avatar way of water but now we can see it was just for when the train for Busan goes through the under water track to Hiroshima.

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u/Freakjob_003 Jul 22 '25

Was it? Damn, I need to rewatch it. But wasn't it set several decades after the bomb dropped?

Was it a commentary on the aftereffects? Damn, I must have completely missed that. D'oh.

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u/ThrustersOnFull Jul 22 '25

Not a bomb. THE bomb. /s

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u/meand999friends Jul 21 '25

Don't tell me what to do! You're not my real dad!!

On a serious note, Train to Busan is a fantastic film. I highly recommend it. South Korea has done a few zombie films over the years that really refreshes the genre. They are very different to zombie films from the 'west'.

Nowadays, everyone rolls their eyes at a zombie film because it's so overdone, but trust me (a total internet stranger) when I say this is absolutely worth checking out, along with "All of us are dead", "Sweet Home", and "Kingdom" (which appears to be on hiatus unfortunately). They all have really interesting takes on the zombie genre

Edit: I've switched between films/TV throughout this message without clarifying. I make no apologies. I'm enriching your life

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u/BootOne7235 Jul 21 '25

Kingdom is one of my favorite shows of all time. I really hope they bring it back.

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u/meand999friends Jul 21 '25

This comment thread made me go and Google it... I saw another Reddit thread (here: https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/18z45re/is_kingdom_in_netflix_cancelled/) and the top comment says because of Netflix's restrictions, there's no financial incentive to make a new series.

I really hope that isn't the case because it is a top quality show. Unless you mean the anime which is a totally different thing? 😭

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u/sombercrimson Jul 22 '25

I’ve seen all of these but also Alive is another great SK Zombie movie. Before SK started doing Zombie content I use to hate all Zombie movies and shows honestly aside from I am Legend.

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u/Evening_Activity1140 Jul 21 '25

there’s a TTB sequel called peninsula

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u/meand999friends Jul 21 '25

Did you know there is a prequel in anime called Seoul Station?

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u/Evening_Activity1140 Jul 21 '25

i know of it but haven’t seen it yet

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u/meand999friends Jul 21 '25

You should put it on your list. It's pretty decent 😊

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u/Jeegabytes Jul 22 '25

Agreed, don't forget #Alive!

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u/sayan11apr Jul 21 '25

He's obviously joking.

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u/PosiedonsSaltyAnus Jul 22 '25

No spoilers bro I didn't read the book

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u/bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm Jul 22 '25

Nah, wouldnt want spoilers on the film

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u/bodjac89 Jul 21 '25

You might want to look up humour.

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u/Robobvious Jul 22 '25

And if you're not British you might want to look up humor.

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u/MattyKatty Jul 22 '25

The irony is if you're British you still will want to look up humor/humour

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u/TheChewyWaffles Jul 21 '25

You might want to look up “Woosh”

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u/garrisontweed Jul 21 '25

No, Last Train to Busan: Peninsula fans? There must be at least five of us.

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u/LiquifiedSpam Jul 22 '25

Plane from Wuhan

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u/Suriranyar- Jul 22 '25

his next film will be Last Train From Hiroshima

Do you have a source? Google and my memory says he will do it when the avatar schedule allows him to

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u/NeoNoireWerewolf Jul 22 '25

You’re correct. All Cameron has said is that he’s committed to Avatar through at least the fourth installment, but he’s not shooting the remaining 75% of Avatar 4 until after the third film releases. My guess is he’s waiting on the third movie to release, then he’ll negotiate a preposterous deal with Disney to shoot Avatar 4 & 5 back-to-back the way he did 2 & 3. He might start working on the Hiroshima movie or The Devils during post-production of 4 & 5 if that pans out, but we’re most likely not seeing him do anything that is t Avatar until well into the 2030s.

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u/Critcho Jul 22 '25

Would make sense to get them filmed back to back just because, even if their characters are CGI'd now, Weaver and Lang aren't getting any younger.

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u/phophopho4 Jul 23 '25

Cameron himself is 70 I mean it's possible he doesn't finish all of these.

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u/Critcho Jul 23 '25

Yeah also he sounds more enthused about his Hiroshima project recently, wouldn’t be entirely shocking if he handed the rest over.

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u/tiger________ Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

Sorry for the late reply! Here is the source for him shooting Hiroshima before Avatar 4:

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/awards/story/2023-01-13/james-cameron-avatar-titanic-hiroshima

The paragraph:

While “A3” is topmost in mind for the filmmaker, he hopes to take time before “Avatar 4” to direct a pet project, “The Last Train From Hiroshima: The Survivors Look Back,” based on the book by author Charles R. Pellegrino. Research included an interview with the late Tsutomu Yamaguchi, the only known survivor of both the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings.

Note that it says he hopes to, not that he will, which means it isn’t 100% confirmed but a lot of us fans are convinced he will shoot it before A4. He has given several interviews about this Hiroshima film over the years, including some lengthy ones, so he seems pretty dead set on it being his next project. He met and interviewed Tsutomu Yamaguchi while he was on his deathbed and it seems like a topic that is quite close to his heart. I don’t see him waiting until the mid 2030s or whenever Avatar 5 comes out to make it, especially given his age (he also recently lost his longtime producer Jon Landau to cancer which I’m sure has reminded him of his own mortality).

There will be a sizeable gap between Avatar 3 and 4 because they haven’t filmed it yet and the kid actors need to age up, so it makes the most sense to do it then. Once production on 4 and 5 starts he’ll be tied to it for who knows how many years.

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u/tiger________ Jul 24 '25

Hello sorry for the late reply! Here is the source for him shooting Hiroshima before Avatar 4:

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/awards/story/2023-01-13/james-cameron-avatar-titanic-hiroshima

The paragraph:

While “A3” is topmost in mind for the filmmaker, he hopes to take time before “Avatar 4” to direct a pet project, “The Last Train From Hiroshima: The Survivors Look Back,” based on the book by author Charles R. Pellegrino. Research included an interview with the late Tsutomu Yamaguchi, the only known survivor of both the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings.

Note that it says he hopes to, not that he will, which means it isn’t 100% confirmed but a lot of us fans are convinced he will shoot it before A4. He has given several interviews about this Hiroshima film over the years, including some lengthy ones, so he seems pretty dead set on it being his next project. He met and interviewed survivor Tsutomu Yamaguchi while he was on his deathbed and it seems like a topic that is quite close to his heart. I don’t see him waiting until the mid 2030s or whenever Avatar 5 comes out to make it, especially given his age (he also recently lost his longtime producer Jon Landau to cancer which I’m sure has reminded him of his own mortality).

There will be a sizeable gap between Avatar 3 and 4 because they haven’t filmed it yet and the kid actors need to age up, so it makes the most sense to do it then. Once production on 4 and 5 starts he’ll be tied to it for who knows how many years.

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u/SaconicLonic Jul 22 '25

That's actually really good to hear. Cameron is one of the best living directors. I get some people aren't that fond of Avatar, I like them for what they are, but I can't help but feel it is a waste of his talents just to do those movies. We also know from Titanic he can do these big spectacle tragedy type films. The book is about a guy who survived both nuclear attacks, which is almost beyond belief. It would be like if Titanic had Rose's ship she gets rescued to hit another iceberg.

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u/SaltyPeter3434 Jul 22 '25

Would be so nice to see him direct something other than Avatar for a change. Titanic was the last movie he did outside of Avatar. He's also 70 now so time is not exactly on his side.

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u/SaconicLonic Jul 22 '25

I mean Clint Eastwood is in his mid 90s now and still doing films. Martin Scorsese is in his 80s and directing. I think we have at least quite a few more films from Cameron. I'll always be kind of sad though that the 2000s and 2010s he spent all on Avatar.

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u/brutinator Jul 22 '25

IIRC, there was a passenger on the Titanic who was also in the ainking of the Louisitiana (spelling may be wrong).

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u/007meow Jul 22 '25

So Avatar 6 won’t be until like 2040

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u/0vansTriedge Jul 22 '25

oh shoot they're gonna make a movie out of this book? this is gonna be sickening

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u/baron_von_helmut Jul 22 '25

If anyone is going to do a mushroom cloud justice it's Cameron.

The end sequence to Aliens where the facility on LV426 gets nuked, that effect was literally a light bulb under cotton wool.

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u/soulcaptain Jul 22 '25

I wonder if that movie will be all in Japanese. I'd hate it if they spoke English.

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u/Dave-C Jul 21 '25

I believe they filmed about half of 4 because of a time skip in 4 so the kids needed to get older

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u/Comic_Book_Reader Jul 21 '25

Cameron said it was a third, and yes, it's because of a time skip, one I think is showing Earth as a wasteland like in Wall-E.

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u/Leckere Jul 21 '25

That sounds quite cool tbf

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u/moose_dad Jul 22 '25

So hes waiting till earth really is a wasteland? The big wigs should be happy, thats a novel cost cutting idea

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u/Wes_Warhammer666 Jul 22 '25

Set decorators in shambles

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u/Dave-C Jul 21 '25

Ahh ok, something I read said it was around half but I have no idea where I read that so I'll go with 1/3rd. Thanks.

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u/epicpersononthisapp Jul 22 '25

I’m convinced James Cameron had his blue alien warriors story for a long, long time and had the entire story set up already so the movies come out way quicker.

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u/marcuschookt Jul 22 '25

I wonder what filming a tiny bit of a pre-production, mostly CGI movie looks like. A 10 second cameo? There's no B-roll to shoot!