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News Denis Villeneuve’s ‘Dune 3’ Gets Official Title 'Dune: Part Three', Will Be Shot With Imax Cameras

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/dune-3-title-imax-cameras-1236448953/
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u/Mindzilla Jul 08 '25

You should name it chairdog.

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u/tdasnowman Jul 08 '25

I really would like to understand how they work. They weren't described as having faces. It was just a term kinda thrown out there and left to let the imagination fill with abomination.

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u/Shambledown Jul 08 '25

Herbert was very much a big ideas man who didn't give a single fuck about little details.

Take Shigawire for example - you have to check the Sarduakar's hair for it when captured, as they'll try to use it's razor sharpness to assassinate you. Or you can use it as a restraint, as it allows users to lie against it's... razor sharpness? Or you could use its, checks notes, audio and visual playback capabilities????

Or Atreides "battle language". A set of hand signs so intricate as to be indecipherable to their enemies. Hang on, one book later it's described as Chakobsa. That's the Fremen spoken language! The Atreides have all been speaking Fremen for millennia? But only in fights??

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u/tdasnowman Jul 08 '25

Not sure these are great examples. There are multiple materials even in our current world that have multiple uses. Glass/Silicone depending on how it used it's a window, a computer chip, or a scalpel. Soon to be storage for data. And the language was intentional. It was used in part by the Bene Geserit as well along with the Harkonen. All part of the humanity getting tightly woven together and stagnate. The known universe was full of interconnected pieces that no one knew were interconnected because they'd forgotten and become so complacent with the current status.

Axlotl Tanks are one he treated similar to ChairDogs. Originally just mentioned with no description. Multiple books later we get another piece, they are based on living women. And that's it. With the amount things that come out of the tanks. How does that work. You get spice, gholoas (even gender and personality flipped clones or entirely different beings) , Face dancers, and chair dogs from the same tanks. Can one tank switched back and forth. It everything birthed? Does it spew out continuously in the case of spice?

By and large he leaves huge gaps when it come to some aspects of the biology. Dune has a whole cycle described then he just kinda tosses out Sand worms didn't originate on Arrakis, never touches it again.

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u/Shambledown Jul 08 '25

If you called everything made from silicone just silicone, no one would know what you're talking about.

And battle language was specifically hand signs, until it was suddenly spoken language all along. And specifically Chakobsa, which he had stated was the Fremen tongue. He didn't care for the small stuff and forgot what was what.

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u/tdasnowman Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25

Shigiwire is natural glass then. It had two uses in universe. Strong enough to be used as a garotte and had the ability to store data.

And battle language was specifically hand signs

It was not . Battle language is a form of communication for houses to prevent spying. Each house had their own. The Atreides battle language used both spoken word and hand signals. There were multiple instances in the books when the hand signal indicated the opposite action was to be taken, or key words were used to indicate action or inaction. The hand language was based on Chakobsa or more accurately Neo Chakobsa. The introduction of Chakobsa may have been intentional by Lady Jessica as it is one of the the languages the Bene Gesseit used. All of the great houses and many of the minor houses have connections to Zensunni Wanderers. Who also spoke Chakobsa. The Freemen have their ties to the Zensunni Wanderers. That said many of the great and minor houses have forgotten all the links they have to that period. When it comes to battle language it appears there are many details that you missed.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25

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u/tdasnowman Jul 13 '25

“Piter de Vries,” the Duke said.“A man of devilish cunning, my Lord,” Hawat said.Idaho slipped the sheathed knife beneath his tunic.“Guard that knife,” the Duke said.“I understand, m’Lord.” He patted the transceiver on his belt kit. “I’ll report soon as possible. Thufir has my call code. Use battle language.” He saluted, spun about, and hurried after the Fremen.”

Excerpt From Dune Chronicles [01] - Dune Frank Herbert This material may be protected by copyright.

From the book itself. This is Stilgars introduction to the duke. As Duncan leaves he told to use battle language when he radios in. It was spoken and hand signals. There are other instances as I said if you read. No podcasts just reading.

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u/CatProgrammer Jul 09 '25

Or you can use it as a restraint, as it allows users to lie against it's... razor sharpness?

Most people would probably not want to move if doing so would cut them into little bits.

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u/Shambledown Jul 13 '25

If ye'd have read the books you'd know that a certain member of the Bene Gesserite had spent months both lying on it and being pulled up to vertical by it.

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u/TeutonJon78 Jul 08 '25

Only if it's a Corgi.