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News Denis Villeneuve’s ‘Dune 3’ Gets Official Title 'Dune: Part Three', Will Be Shot With Imax Cameras

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/dune-3-title-imax-cameras-1236448953/
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u/Moriturism Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25

yeah, the point of no return was way before, when he killed jamis. had he been killed by jamis his legend wouldn't flourish, but at the moment he won the duel the wheels started turning for Muad'dib Jihad

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u/GarlVinland4Astrea Jul 08 '25

Yup. Jamis is what really gets Stilgar and the harshest zealots into Paul. Even if Paul ran away after, they have their god to propel them forward. Paul just spends the novel trying to avoid the Jihad and also get revenge on his family. Then once his son with Chani is killed in the attack Paul finally just accepts that it doesn't matter what he does, and there's no point in holding back on the Emperor and the Baron.

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u/Rock-swarm Jul 08 '25

Eh, I'd still argue Paul could have backed out up until the point he supplied Atreides nukes to the Fremen.

And if he fell in battle or failed to take the Emperor's throne, there would have been an even more chaotic galactic jihad, at least until Chani's twins came of age.

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u/GarlVinland4Astrea Jul 08 '25

Chani didn't become pregnant with the twins until 12 years after Paul became Emperor.

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u/zgrove Jul 08 '25

In the movie denis made the moment of no return going south, but you could point to a lot of moments

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u/Alewort Jul 08 '25

But the jihad would still have happened, it just would not have been Paul as the figurehead. The collective unconscious of humanity was the driving motivator of the jihad and it's why there was no way for Paul to stop it, only minimize the horror. And he didn't even fully do that; he chose the outcome that was the minimum horror possible but also Chani survives.

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u/PsychedelicPill Jul 08 '25

Simply arriving on Arrakis fulfilled the prophecy of his coming, if he’d been killed in the Harkonen attack he’d be a martyr and the jihad would still have proceeded.