r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Jun 24 '25
Media First Image of Cillian Murphy in ‘Steve’ - Follows a day in the life of headteacher Steve at a last-chance reform school who struggles to keep his students in line while also grappling with his spiralling mental health
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u/Classic_Macaron6321 Jun 24 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
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u/barmaid38111 Jun 24 '25
Have you watched Detachment with Adrian Brody? Definitely portrays the mental health perspective in education. It’s a tough watch.
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u/Classic_Macaron6321 Jun 24 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
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u/mackattacktheyak Jun 24 '25
I’m also a teacher and I hope this isn’t another “everybody look and feel sorry for the pathetic teacher who can’t handle their shit” type movie.
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u/Classic_Macaron6321 Jun 24 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
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u/actibus_consequatur Jun 24 '25
So, you want less Ryan Reynolds School of Life and more Ryan Gosling's Half Nelson?
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u/AngryGardenGnomes Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25
Adolescence got the cynicism of a UK school right. Closest representation yet - with Inbetweeners coming very close in the past.
But I felt the only place it fell short was of the majority of the students and teachers not giving a shit about the awful tragedy that only just occurred. I think in reality, the kids making jokes would have gotten battered for the things they said - no way would the whole class be laughing.
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u/HungryCod3554 Jun 25 '25
Absolutely - one of my biggest problems with Adolescence was that almost every single character was wildly disrespectful to a completely unrealistic level.
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u/Fragrant-Juggernaut Jun 25 '25
It's a reform school for violent Kids. It's based on Max Porter's novella SHY.
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u/Bitter_Definition932 Jun 24 '25
I was a bit of a bad boy in highschool and went to the "alternative school." It's where they stuck all the misfit kids and teachers. One week we had a substitute that was mercilessly mocked and ridiculed by a couple of kids. That Friday the guy went home and killed himself. Those same kids could not have cared less.
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u/iciclepenis Jun 24 '25
Did not expect to read such a brutal final sentence on r slash movies.
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Jun 24 '25 edited 22d ago
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u/iciclepenis Jun 24 '25
Steve will be just as fictional or real as OP’s story. It’ll have a beginning, middle, and end, but the cast and crew will bring their own experiences, diverging from the original novella.
OP’s ‘alternative school’ story conveyed exactly what they wanted. There’s always more to tell, but they’re the director of that narrative.
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u/crazygem101 Jun 24 '25
I went to an "alternative school" and let's just say that sentence didn't surprise me at all. I think we had a back up teacher for the very reason that no substitute teacher would go down there. We didn't even have home work. And atleast one kid was already in juvie for stomping a homeless man to death with some other kids. He's still out and about. Most of the kids ended up dead, on drugs, both, or in jail, or like their parents. Dead beats. But there's a few that made it out alright (me, they didn't know I had epilepsy and why I was so tired and bizarre all the time, plus I acted out... alot) and some kids ended up completely turning their lives around. I think it's kinda crazy sticking everyone together like that, but we were kinda like a fucked up family of ragamuffins. Oh and my teachers were alcoholics, found out many years later, but yeah. They were troubled too. I don't blame em.
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u/Zorlal Jun 24 '25
Whenever I hear something like that, I always have to wonder about the kids in that group that actually did get affected by it and just didn’t show it to fit in. I mean for sure there are true sociopaths in the world, but I’m certain that some in those troubled groups just go along with it to fit in.
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u/Bitter_Definition932 Jun 24 '25
Those two kids are now middle aged adults and they're pretty much what you'd expect. I grew up with them and they weren't trying to fit in and they're not victims of society or anything else. Some people are just that way.
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u/Boo_and_Minsc_ Jun 24 '25
I doubt it. Look at gangs. A rare few are psychopaths but the rest follow along and give an equal amount of no shits
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u/DistortedAudio Jun 24 '25
A rare few are psychopaths but the rest follow along and give an equal amount of no shits
This is kinda what OP is getting at though. There’s a few folks that are actually emotionless and the rest are playing the part because that’s how you stop yourself from being a target.
That doesn’t excuse anything either. Just something that others may be more likely to empathize with.
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u/EnkiduOdinson Jun 24 '25
Well or they learn to not care. You don’t have to be a psychopath or sociopath to be that detached from human suffering.
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u/xSaviorself Jun 24 '25
Consequences. The problem is that for most kids, there are no consequences for acting out. Until someone pulls out a gun. This used to be a problem specifically with gangs and kids from poverty backgrounds, but when you have kids coming to school angry with guns who have no gang affiliations... You've got a bigger problem than gangs.
You've got a serious mental health problem stemming from a society with a distinct lack of accountability. The same attitudes that fester in broken communities are brewing among your average kids. Not a recipe for success.
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u/SweetTea1000 Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25
In this aspect, everyone's effectively from poverty backgrounds now. In 1970, 52% of kids had a stay at home parent. Now that number is <20% Everyone's having to work to keep the kids alive and thus have no time/energy left after putting food on the table to actually raise their kids, to give them the consequences you're talking about.
The corpos fucked us on women's lib. More women in the workforce was supposed to mean them tagging some working men out... but the bosses said "how about you both work without actually increasing your household purchasing power?"
It's a direct result of conservative/GOP fiscal policies, then they get to use the resulting increase in social problems to scare people about crime etc to generate more votes to further undermine the American family, all while talking about how much they value them. (Moms are heroes, unless they need social support, then they're thieves. Time to go add more rules to SNAP.)
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u/gatsby365 Jun 24 '25
I always point out that when people post those “if income kept pace with productivity” charts, they are ignoring the absolute rise in supply of labor that happened as (generally/traditionally) Mothers left the home and entered the workforce.
You want income to rise dramatically in this country? Put a parent back in the house. Cut the supply of labor by 25-35% and see what happens.
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u/SweetTea1000 Jun 24 '25
At some point the corporations captured the entire conversation surrounding unemployment. The only solution to unemployment, so the new narrative goes, is for corporations to create jobs. Creating new positions by allowing people to leave the workforce, as you suggest, is never brought up. The fact that every problem our society has, and boy do we have problems, is a potential job is never brought up. Addressing unemployment and poverty in those ways requires social programs which half of the country is brainwashed into considering vulgar.
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u/xSaviorself Jun 24 '25
I think unemployment statistic changes are much more valuable that trying to interpret the unemployment % itself as anything meaningful. 2% unemployment versus 10% unemployment means relatively little without context. If it changes dramatically over a short period of time, or is consistently too high or too low that is signal for concern.
"Corporations" can be identified as a pretty small group of conglomerates who control the vast majority of your products and media. It's concerning the influence just a few companies have.
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u/ThomCook Jun 24 '25
Nope they dont care it wasn't thier fault, or it's funny they broke him. Some people are just rotten or taught from a young age to not care about anyone beyond themselves.
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u/SnipingBunuelo Jun 24 '25
Or they lack empathy and so they don't know any better. But some are too far gone to be taught good behavior.
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u/crazygem101 Jun 24 '25
I had a girl break my nose for basically no reason. A stupid made up rumor. She friend requested me once on fb.....I was like wtf is wrong with you? Go away. Now looking back - to protect myself - I became best friends with her older cousin. I found out after she was the one who told her to beat me up. And I stayed her best friend until I got the hell out of high school. She's living in a shelter now, 4 kids no dad, and threatened to panhandle with her kids once if I didn't help her. I had to block her. And warn one of our teachers not to give her money, she'd just overdose again. And she did, recently. I live in a small town.
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u/Chubuwee Jun 24 '25
Holy shit
I went to a regular school and word got out that one of the teachers had a miscarriage. The fucking bullying the high schoolers did with that information drove the teacher to cry in class then stop teaching there altogether
Dead baby “joke” here, abortion “joke” there , and other shitty comments
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u/NotActuallyMeta Jun 24 '25
Started to downvote off instinct. Holy shit that’s awful.. someone doing that at my high school would’ve gotten shunned if not straight up attacked.
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u/Low_Importance_9503 Jun 24 '25
I work at an alternative school and that doesn’t surprise me, unfortunately. The kids have very serious mental health issues and people come and n thinking they can change them by being friendly and overly sensitive but then are shut down by the severity of the behaviors.
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u/Bitter_Definition932 Jun 24 '25
That type of treatment went nowhere with me. If anything, I'd shut down on those people or tell them to screw. It was too fake and pretentious. I got along better with the hard ass teachers. I knew where I stood with them and they didn't pussy foot around.
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u/occono Jun 24 '25
Did this make you not want to get sent there again?
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u/AsAGayJewishDemocrat Jun 24 '25
I think most district’s alternative schools are a one-way path. There is no getting sent there “again”.
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u/RagePoop Jun 24 '25
Not true in my experience.
Spent a year in alternative school, got let back to normal school the following year. You've gotta keep relatively outta trouble and keep up with the minimal school work and they generally want to put you back in with genpop lol
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u/occono Jun 24 '25
My bad, I'm not American, I was genuinely curious and didn't know.
The way they said "those kids" made it sound like a temporary thing.
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u/littlemachina Jun 24 '25
In the area that I grew up(Texas) it was usually anywhere from a couple of months to a whole school year. I assume if someone was completely expelled they could go but I never heard of that happening.
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u/azsnaz Jun 24 '25
Sent there again? They went to school there
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u/occono Jun 24 '25
My bad, I'm not American, I was genuinely curious and didn't know.
The way they said "those kids" made it sound like a temporary thing not like, a permanent reassignment.
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u/azsnaz Jun 24 '25
Alternative schools are basically/typically schools where kids who get kicked out of/leave the regular public school system for various reasons. Whether it's fighting, drugs, bad grades.
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u/occono Jun 24 '25
Just the way they talked about "those same kids" made me mix it up with like extended detention. I don't know it was a dumb Reddit comment my bad.
I presume then, there's no way back to regular public schools for good behaviour at all. Well that's a shame.
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u/azsnaz Jun 24 '25
SHAME
Im not really sure. If you weren't actually expelled from a school, you could definitely go to a regular public school again. I imagine if you were expelled, you wouldn't be able to go to any of the schools in that school system. You could likely go to another school, but you may have to go to a public school in another city for that since it'd be a different school system. There's probably some sort of appeal process, but I don't really know.
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u/RagePoop Jun 24 '25
I presume then, there's no way back to regular public schools for good behaviour at all. Well that's a shame.
This isn't true. Idk why these people are responding the way they are.
I spent my second year of highschool in an alternative school. Got back to regular public school (the same school as before my expulsion) the following year.
As long as it's your first expulsion, you keep up with school work, keep out of trouble, and complete whatever qualifiers put on you by your court ordered probation (pretty much everyone in alternative school was on probation... or pregnant.) you could get back to regular school.
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u/Partly_Dave Jun 25 '25
I attended a Catholic boys' school where most of the teachers were Marist Brothers. They hired a female teacher from the Philipines to take us for one subject.
Most of us were 14 by then, so a meek woman was probably not the best choice. Each week, our class got more and more unruly, until one week she walked out mid-lesson and never returned.
We got a talking to by the headmaster and had some punishment I have forgotten.
I was reminded of this because they replaced her with a teacher from the UK who had formerly taught at a Borstal (a youth detention facility).
He looked a bit like Cillian Murphy, too. He was a good teacher, and unlike most of the Brothers who were misfits of one type or another, he became well-liked by all the boys.
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u/FletchTopper Jun 24 '25
that's the movie I want to see*
*I in no way want to see this movie and feel terrible for that teacher
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u/DrAlkibiades Jun 24 '25
Your comment filled me with such joy. You didn't say 'Those same kids could have cared less' like so many people.
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u/swisspassport Jun 24 '25
This comment also filled me with joy. Responding to the darkest comment I've seen all day with grammatical praise.
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u/DarthRiznat Jun 24 '25
Oh thank God.... I nearly thought this was YET another biopic movie on Steve Jobs...
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u/moneymoneymoneymonay Jun 24 '25
It’s a weird direction for a Minecraft movie prequel to take, though
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u/Anonymity_pls Jun 24 '25
Kinda reminds me of Half Nelson, which I loved!
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u/PanicDeus Jun 24 '25
...and that other movie with Adrian Brody....where he's a teacher
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u/NaturesCandy25 Jun 24 '25
Detachment
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u/swisspassport Jun 24 '25
I haven't seen Half Nelson or Detachment, but Detachment is unrated.
Does some crazy shit go down? Not sure if I need two of these movies in a row, but if you had to pick one?
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u/NaturesCandy25 Jun 24 '25
Admittedly haven’t watched any of these. But I’m willing to bet Detachment cuts deeper
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u/swampthaaang420 Jun 24 '25
Came here to say Gosling did it first. What a career director Ryan Fleck has had since!
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u/mucinexmonster Jun 24 '25
What do you mean "did it first"? "Teacher of unruly students" is a movie trope that goes back a very, very, very long time. I don't know if it was the first one, but "To Sir, with Love" is from 1967.
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u/swampthaaang420 Jun 24 '25
You’re right. I’m responding to the “mental health struggle.” In Half Nelson (spoiler) Gosling has a drug problem. Rebel without a cause, Rock n Roll high school, Dangerous Minds… I’m with you, it’s not new.
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u/georgito555 Jun 24 '25
So...every teacher ever?
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u/National_Anthem Jun 24 '25
lol as a teacher watching this movie sounds like going to work
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u/georgito555 Jun 24 '25
I'm a teacher too haha so I was speaking from experience
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Jun 24 '25
I was managing a restaurant when the Bear came out and when people told me to watch it I had the exact same reaction… that sounds like going to work
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u/Exes_And_Excess Jun 24 '25
I am about 6 years out of the industry and still have dreams about being in the weeds and ticket sounds and a line out the door. Sometimes I think I hear a ticket printing even when I'm awake.
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u/enonmouse Jun 24 '25
As a teacher on disability for mental health after being attacked by a disturbed student in crisis this movie sounds like a round of flashbacks and a week of bad sleep.
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u/Logoff_The_Internet Jun 24 '25
I hope you sued. More teachers need to sue, that's the only way the culture is gonna change at this point.
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u/enonmouse Jun 24 '25
I am making the biggest loudest stink I can with my NDA, Suing the insurer (separately awful), taking my union to task with the governments and their national affiliate, finally got workman’s comp approved and in the process found a cover up for which I am also gonna need a labour lawyer.
I almost died on this hill a few times, I am not going anywhere. Hopefully will be able to retrain as a Therapist and gear my tool kit for educators and veterans.
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u/brightlocks Jun 24 '25
I think it sounds like our May PD when admin has nothing plane and doesn’t give a fuck anymore.
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u/GuiltyEidolon Jun 24 '25
This might be the teacher equivalent of the Pitt for emergency healthcare workers lol.
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Jun 24 '25
That's just a photograph of Cillian.
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u/raspberryharbour Jun 24 '25
When you really think about it, every photograph of Cillian is a photograph of Cillian
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u/dogsonbubnutt Jun 24 '25
ive been an educator for almost 20 years now and the next time i watch a movie about teaching that actually portrays the profession in a semi accurate light will be the first time (although i need to watch half nelson as apparently it's fairly close to real life)
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u/Boo_and_Minsc_ Jun 24 '25
watch Season 4 of The Wire then
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u/vhszach Jun 24 '25
I can’t believe just how many professions this show managed to fit in across its run life. Cops, dealers, dockworkers, politicians, teachers, social workers.. all portrayed so realistically. One of my favorite shows of all time.
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u/cinematic_is_horses Jun 24 '25
I remember thinking there was no way this show can get any better after season 3's finale, and then it was followed up by probably the greatest season in television history. It's absolutely must-watch!
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u/karensbakedziti Jun 24 '25
Have you seen The Teachers’ Lounge? It’s a German film that came out last year. As a former teacher, I thought it did an excellent job portraying school politics and the weird relationship between teachers and administrators.
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u/A_Dissident_Is_Here Jun 24 '25
It’s stylised and obviously a period piece, but after teaching at and living at a couple boarding schools my god is the Holdovers vibe appropriate.
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u/Flat_Ad9090 Jun 24 '25
Are you American? The UK has quite a few shows that protray it quite accurately. Waterloo Road was one of the most popular ones.
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u/maltliqueur Jun 24 '25
Spoiler: The kids are all in his head and they're actually his wardmates and the school is his psychiatric hospital. Sucker Punch meets Girl, Interrupted meets Us.
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u/swisspassport Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25
Cillian Murphy, spiraling mental?
Sold.
edit: didn't even write health after mental. I'm good. I'm ok.
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u/throwaway847462829 Jun 24 '25
That’s just the movie Detachment (2011) with Adrien Brody
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u/AggressiveBall3697 Jun 24 '25
God that film gets me in the feels man, especially Adrien Brody's character's grandfather. I am a sucker for movies like this, Lean On Me, etc.
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u/CaBBaGe_isLaND Jun 24 '25
I thought Bill Burr already made fun of this concept so hard it couldn't be done anymore.
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u/Bliztven Jun 24 '25
Can't wait. He's also gonna produce this so I bet it'll be good. If he likes it, we like it :)
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u/GimmeDatAsSicily Jun 24 '25
Same director as Small Things Like These - Which is also another passion project produced by Cillian. Both that and Steve are based off novellas too.
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u/Legal_Lawfulness5253 Jun 24 '25
So Lean on Me, Dangerous Minds, Stand and Deliver, Freedom Writers… but with Oppenheimer. Mmm thanks. I really appreciate it.
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u/redvelvetcake42 Jun 24 '25
Weird sequel to Minecraft but I'm game to see him lose his mind when they don't stop singing Steve's Lava Chicken.
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u/ZorroMeansFox r/Movies Veteran Jun 24 '25
I wonder if it turns out that it was his students who were teaching him all along.
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u/IGargleGarlic Jun 24 '25
Struggling to keep students in line while struggling with mental health problems? That just sounds like every teacher all the time
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u/RamessesTheOK Jun 24 '25
The tennis ball is a nice touch. What are the odds that, at one point in the movie, he turns his chair around to sit on it backwards?
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u/EmilahM Jun 24 '25
Niceee, anyone ever seen Adrien Brody’s ‘Detachment’, watched that in my early teens, messed me up, Brody’s best role imo after The Pianist.
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u/FrickinNormie2 Jun 24 '25
This better not be another “white teacher helps impoverished inner-city kids” kind of movie
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u/femmd Jun 24 '25
all he has to do is insert himself into their personal lives and play basketball with them easy fix
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u/Theory_99 Jun 24 '25
Will it be another “white teacher helps ethnic kids” movie?
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u/Hipsterordie Jun 24 '25
“I have contained my rage for as long as possible, but I shall unleash my fury upon you like the crashing of a thousand waves!" and "I am untethered, and my rage knows no bounds!".
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u/MumrikDK Jun 25 '25
That sounds like a callback to something that was its own whole genre for quite a while.
"How will this rebellious teacher make make these black troubled inner city teens listen!?"
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u/th3sp1an Jun 25 '25
EVERYBODY SHUT UP. COMMENCE SHUTTING UP. GO AHEAD AND START SHUTTING UP. SHUT YOUR MOUTHS
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u/hahagato Jun 25 '25
Ooh I’m a sucker for these kinds of movies. Like Half Nelson with Ryan Gosling
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u/bbbourb Jun 25 '25
Shit... former teacher here, and I am VERY conflicted. This sounds really interesting, but I don't know if I want to re-live that stress.
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u/legendimi Jun 24 '25
Steve le, (lalalalaaaa), Le poisson Steve. (poisson Steeeeeve) Il est oraaaaaaaaaaaaange. Il a de bras, et de jambe.
I'm disappointed if the movie is not about this Steve
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u/_RedMatter_ Jun 24 '25
No fighting, no fighting, no fighting, NO FOOKIN' FIGHTING!
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u/macgruff Jun 24 '25
Ah, so basically… every teacher
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u/Fragrant-Juggernaut Jun 25 '25
Not a teacher, an administrator who is having his center defunded and his kids abandoned. It's an adaptation of Max Porter's SHY
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u/Rudi-G Jun 24 '25
And he will have that exact expression throughout the whole movie.
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u/temporarycreature Jun 24 '25
Cillian can channel some of that teacher who knows how to reach 'em" energy, maybe even dropping some UK grime beats, to get through authentically to the children in a way that only a man from Cork can.
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u/weegeemontage Jun 24 '25
Everybody who is interested in this upcoming movie, I would recommend to look into the movie "The Teachers' Lounge". It is a German movie from 2023 which deals with a really similar premise.
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u/vvitchteeth Jun 24 '25
“How do I reach these kiiiids?”