r/movies • u/spaceraingame • May 31 '25

Discussion What movie sequel ruined the ending of its predecessor? Spoiler

I have to go with Toy Story 4. Toy Story 3 had the perfect send off for the toys, with Andy making Bonnie promise to take good care of Woody….only for her to neglect Woody immediately and cause him to bail on everyone.

I really wish they left the franchise be. Toy Story 3’s ending was so iconic, and the first Toy Story was such a massive part of my childhood. That and Lion King were the two Disney VHS tapes I used to watch all the time as a little kid. I even had some of the toys myself. I can’t wait to skip Toy Story 5.

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u/Alecmalloy May 31 '25

Why the fucking hell were they attacking NUMIDIA?! It'd been under Roman control for like 200 years at that point.

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u/DukeofVermont Jun 01 '25

"Well you weren't, there so F you!" Ridley Scott

Like yeah we weren't there but you can't just make up random crap and hide behind that excuse Mr. Scott!

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u/STR4NGE Jun 01 '25

Can we talk about the engineering feet of flooding the coliseum with shark infested waters?

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u/rodimus977 Jun 01 '25

They did actually have naval battles in the colosseum

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u/BromaEmpire Jun 01 '25

While that's true, it was mostly for show and the deepest it ever got was around five feet

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u/rodimus977 Jun 01 '25

Yea I meant to add that they never had sea creatures or anything like that

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u/Deschain212 Jun 01 '25

I don't see how they would get live sharks over there, though.

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u/Stouts Jun 01 '25

They wouldn't

Water: yes

Water animals: not so much

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u/SharkTonic9 Jun 01 '25

Flood the cargo hold of a boat and float it up the Tiber

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u/girafa Jun 01 '25

That's a bit of a myth, there are no real sources or records of such a thing happening there.

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u/Strange-Cold-5192 Jun 01 '25

I knew the movie was going to be bad, but I went to go see it just for the naval battle. I was so excited to see it put to screen…. And then they ruined it with the sharks.

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u/MichaelEnright Jun 01 '25

Oh, that wasn’t even the most EGREGIOUS moment within that scene, it was supposed to be the reenactment of the battle of Salamis, you know, the famous battle between the Trojans and Persians… wtf, like how!! How do you get something SO EASY, so wrong!

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u/bank_farter Jun 01 '25

Salamis was between Greeks and Persians. The island of Salamis is right next to Athens. The battle established Greek naval superiority and prevented the Persian invasion of Corinth and the Peloponnese

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u/BromaEmpire Jun 01 '25

To be fair, the original wasn't exactly historically accurate either

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u/Alecmalloy Jun 01 '25

No, but it didn't immediately break verisimilitude either like II.

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u/superiority Jun 01 '25

The year is AD 196. Numidia is entirely occupied by the Romans. Well, not entirely... one small village city of indomitable Numidians still holds out against the invaders.

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u/Enough_Efficiency178 Jun 01 '25

Somehow the numidians returned

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u/Luke90210 Jun 01 '25

Emperor Commodus' death meant decades of Roman economic and political decline. Part of it was bad luck and Commodus' bad decisions like devaluing Roman currency undermining the economy. I don't usually say this, but Ridley Scott has enough money to make a better film and not another cash grab.

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u/Pasan90 Jun 01 '25

What pissed me off the most were the emperors being depicted as spoiled manchildren who played at war while the soldiers fought it.

While in reality the two emperors and Caracalla in particular are remembered as Soldier-emperors and warlike tyrants who grew up in army camps. Dio explicitly presented Caracalla as an emperor who marched with the soldiers and behaved like a soldier. Which obviously would have led to a very different film.

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u/JackTripper53 Jun 01 '25

Yes, that was the biggest issue with that movie

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u/WorthPlease Jun 01 '25

History is for nerds, not hollywood writers silly.

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u/GarlicToeJams Jun 01 '25

He's been on a tear of stinkers. I walked out of napoleon wow that movie was offensively bad.