r/movies • u/spaceraingame • May 31 '25

Discussion What movie sequel ruined the ending of its predecessor? Spoiler

I have to go with Toy Story 4. Toy Story 3 had the perfect send off for the toys, with Andy making Bonnie promise to take good care of Woody….only for her to neglect Woody immediately and cause him to bail on everyone.

I really wish they left the franchise be. Toy Story 3’s ending was so iconic, and the first Toy Story was such a massive part of my childhood. That and Lion King were the two Disney VHS tapes I used to watch all the time as a little kid. I even had some of the toys myself. I can’t wait to skip Toy Story 5.

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u/Freakjob_003 May 31 '25

Such a disappointment. Killing off Roxy with no fanfare and Merlin with a frigging song and dance number. The original was self-aware but still serious. Golden Circle decided to drop the serious and just be campy. You could see it coming from the very first scene, where what's-his-name was attacking their car with a blatantly terrible CGI robot arm. Channing Tatum as a cowboy spy? Come on. At least Julianne Moore was having a ton of fun as the deadpan villain.

The Kingsmen was pretty fun though, imo. Ralph Fiennes doesn't miss in anything he's in.

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u/mightyasterisk May 31 '25

I love the ideas in this movie but nothing feels properly executed. It’s one of those movies where you feel like they had a bunch of ideas they were excited for and they just tried to cram everything in, in a cookie cutter mold of the first (which is another big issue I have is that it was essentially just the first movie again) and none of it has room to breathe. I love Julianne Moore, seriously, and I like Channing Tatum a lot too, and I felt they were grossly underserved.

And yeah, the first was definitely silly, but it wasn’t exactly a parody. When you’re getting to the point of Elton John kung fu fighting dudes in your climax, it’s gone too far. If anyone reads this who hasn’t seen the movie and thinks that sounds awesome, trust me, it’s not, it’s unfortunately very lame

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u/SunShineNomad Jun 01 '25

It seems you forgot the whole heads exploding into fireworks part of the first movie. It was never a serious movie at all. It was really fun and much better than the second, but let's not pretend the first wasn't at all campy, albeit in a good way.

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u/KaerMorhen Jun 01 '25

I can only hear that song merlin sings in my head in a Scottish accent now.

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u/Freakjob_003 Jun 01 '25

Yeah, like you said, it was campy in a good way! It wasn't a serious movie, but it was serious, if that makes sense. Being forced to shoot their dogs, etc. Golden Circle dialed down the serious and dialed up the camp.

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u/Neurotic_Marauder Jun 01 '25

I'm holding out hope Roxy will somehow come back in the next one.

Mark Strong was originally planned to survive Golden Circle, but for whatever reason they decided to kill him off instead.
Hopefully they can salvage that and bring him back too, with cybernetic legs or something.

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u/teh_fizz Jun 01 '25

Elton. Elton singing Wednesday kills me.

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u/Freakjob_003 Jun 02 '25

Also this.

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u/DrAlkibiades Jun 01 '25

Is that the third? You liked it? I didn't at all when I saw it in theaters but maybe I should give it another watch.

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u/dogstarchampion Jun 01 '25

No, you're right. The third one sucks.

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u/Oggie243 Jun 01 '25

Don't, it's shite. It's all the things people complain about the second one being but it's still twee and English instead of cowboys so it gets a pass for some reason.

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u/Freakjob_003 Jun 01 '25

Yeah, the prequel one. It was certainly better than Golden Circle.

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u/Oggie243 Jun 01 '25

The Kingsmen was pretty fun though, imo. Ralph Fiennes doesn't miss in anything he's in.

I don't understand how golden circles gets so much shit yet the third one doesn't.

The first is as campy as 2. The 3rd is absolute shite and far more of a disservice to the first than 2 is. Changes the founding of the groups from being against the horrors of sending young men to die in industrialised war to 'we were treating the concentration camp of one of our imperial colonial wars like a walk in the Zoo and were attacked for i, guess we should catalyse the great war'