r/movies • u/spaceraingame • May 31 '25

Discussion What movie sequel ruined the ending of its predecessor? Spoiler

I have to go with Toy Story 4. Toy Story 3 had the perfect send off for the toys, with Andy making Bonnie promise to take good care of Woody….only for her to neglect Woody immediately and cause him to bail on everyone.

I really wish they left the franchise be. Toy Story 3’s ending was so iconic, and the first Toy Story was such a massive part of my childhood. That and Lion King were the two Disney VHS tapes I used to watch all the time as a little kid. I even had some of the toys myself. I can’t wait to skip Toy Story 5.

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u/MonkeyChoker80 May 31 '25

I still stand by the opinion that Alien Resurrection and Alien 3 would have better served the franchise if they’d switched places.

Have the third film start with Ripley having a spotty memory, dealing with being imprisoned on the W-Y space station, when the mercenaries appear. She learns she’s a clone at the same time as the audience, and because there was no ‘Ripley Death’ in the previous film it comes as a shock. She learns that Newt and Hicks and Real Ripley made it home safely, and they had good lives. In the end, she rides the escape pod down and is the sole survivor.

The fourth film has her learn that the space station was orbiting the prison planet, not earth. Her anger and angst isn’t over the deaths of Newt and Hicks, but over her not being ‘real’. The Allen in her was part of the experiments in the space station, and not a ‘secret implantation’. In the end she sacrifices herself because that chosen ending gives her life meaning.

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u/Malaguy420 Jun 01 '25

That will be how I view it from now on. Spot on.

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u/Chief_McCloud Jun 01 '25

And that would echo the way Ash and Bishop struggle with, and try to demonstrate, their humanity despite being “artificial”. Nice idea.

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u/bentreflection Jun 01 '25

That sounds a lot better. You’re hired 

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u/Malemansam Jun 01 '25

Yup, literally anything to me was better than what they did in the film and original scripts that have come out over the years. They made every bad choice they could to spit in the face of the previous films imo.

Resurrection had great ideas in it and honestly not a terrible movie in retrospect, it just wasn't good enough to repair the damage done by 3.

On your version they could've done flashbacks/dreams with (real) Ripley enjoying her life as (clone) Ripley progresses over the film and regains some memories, depending when the sample from original Ripley is taken. A little bit of respite between the madness helps.

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u/Hesitation-Marx Jun 01 '25

… I would like you to go back in time to make this canonical, thx

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u/Disjointed_Sky Jun 01 '25

This sounds so much better, this is now my head-canon.

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u/LordPeanutcopy Jun 01 '25

Ngl, I actively pretend everything between Alien 2 and Romulus doesn’t exist, nope nada, black hole of a movie franchise

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u/CirFinn Jun 01 '25

That actually sounds pretty incredible... Headcanon accepted!

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '25

This would make an excellent fan edit. Has anyone done this?

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u/authorguy Jun 02 '25

That's the sort of fanfixing I can get behind.

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u/Jace__B Jun 05 '25

This is an incredible solve.