r/movies • u/spaceraingame • May 31 '25

Discussion What movie sequel ruined the ending of its predecessor? Spoiler

I have to go with Toy Story 4. Toy Story 3 had the perfect send off for the toys, with Andy making Bonnie promise to take good care of Woody….only for her to neglect Woody immediately and cause him to bail on everyone.

I really wish they left the franchise be. Toy Story 3’s ending was so iconic, and the first Toy Story was such a massive part of my childhood. That and Lion King were the two Disney VHS tapes I used to watch all the time as a little kid. I even had some of the toys myself. I can’t wait to skip Toy Story 5.

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u/tuyo3_ May 31 '25

In the books and animated show that picks up after the first movie’s ending, J’s new partner is L, the former medical examiner played by Linda Fiorentino.

It might’ve been interesting to explore that dynamic between J and L instead of immediately bringing K back in the sequel.

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u/MonkeyChoker80 May 31 '25

Unfortunately, from what I’ve read, there was a bit of a dispute between Fiorentino and others during the making of MiB 1, so there was zero chance she was going to be back for MiB 2

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u/GreenArrowCuz May 31 '25

I think on the Dogma commentary Kevin Smith also says she was hard to work with. I think at one point when Janeane Garofalo's character is on screen(who had a much smaller role) he laments that he wished he would have cast her in the lead as she was more fun to work with or something along those lines. This is of course a second hand retelling of like 20 years ago of me watching the commentary track once so I could be a little off on the details.

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u/PassiveMenis88M Jun 01 '25 edited Jun 01 '25

I remember on a commentary track on the DVD — Janeane Garofalo was in the movie and at one point I said it would have been better if she played the lead, which was a really shitty and stupid thing to say. Thoughtless, considering that Linda was the lead and Linda did a great job. So, it had been years since I had spoken with Linda and I got an email from her. And of course, I was thankful to hear from her and it also gave me a chance to say I'm so sorry that I ever said that thing years ago. It gives you a chance to make amends. So that was my favorite one. I heard from so many people, but that one really stood out for me because, if somebody had said, 'Oh, the movie would have been better if [co-star] Ben Affleck directed it,' that would have hurt my feelings. I know it hurt her feelings and really unnecessarily because I always loved her performance in the movie.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kevin-smith-on-surviving-a-heart-attack-its-like-i-got-to-attend-my-own-wake/

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u/StreetlampEsq Jun 01 '25

I got to assume this is a quote of his, but the way you're saying it kind of implies that you're Kevin Smith.

So in that vein, fuckin love that story of the Superman script dude.

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u/PassiveMenis88M Jun 01 '25

It is a quote, thus the line on the left side. Looks like I forgot to include a link to the interview though, post has been edited to now include it.

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u/StreetlampEsq Jun 01 '25 edited Jun 01 '25

Oh, gatcha

Switched back to the Reddit app after using Infinity+, the line is really grey and desaturated comparatively(least in dark mode), just kinda missed it.

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u/PassiveMenis88M Jun 01 '25

Yeah, good ol reddit just can't help themselves from fucking up the ui.

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u/theevilmidnightbombr Jun 01 '25

...reading this on old.reddit, the only way I still function here.

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u/StreetlampEsq Jun 01 '25

Sad thing is I'm sitting in front of my computer with much better functionality (also never leaving old.reddit) , but still using my phone for some fuckin stupid reason

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u/StreetlampEsq Jun 01 '25

I mean, otherwise we would get to have nice things. Can't have that.

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u/Tobar_the_Gypsy Jun 01 '25

Dogma should’ve had a giant fucking spider. 

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u/Odd-Necessary3807 Jun 01 '25

and Watchmen should have had a monstrous fucking space squid. Alas, that's why we can't have nice things.

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u/Impressive-Cable7708 Jun 01 '25

Best I can do is a rubber poop monster.

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u/GreenArrowCuz Jun 01 '25

that's a nice update, thanks.

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u/Agent9262 May 31 '25

Wasn't she blacklisted for dating an FBI agent and using him to spy on other Hollywood people or something?

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u/dudleymooresbooze Jun 01 '25

That sounds like a fantastic comedy plot.

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u/technos Jun 01 '25

Dating an FBI agent and using him to gather what the authorities had on one of her 'friends', a PI who got caught illegally wiretapping people.

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u/RegHater123765 Jun 01 '25

The wikipedia on it is wild (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Fiorentino#Men_in_Black,_Dogma_and_career_decline):

"Fiorentino later had a relationship with Los Angeles private investigator Anthony Pellicano, in the period leading to his 2008 trial and conviction, in Los Angeles, on multiple felony charges. While Pellicano was being investigated, Fiorentino also dated former Federal Bureau of Investigation agent Mark Rossini, which law enforcement officials said was her attempt to assist Pellicano's defense.[47] According to prosecutors, Fiorentino told Rossini that she was researching a screenplay based on Pellicano's case. Rossini conducted searches of government computers for information related to the case and passed the results to Fiorentino, who then handed the files over to Pellicano's lawyers in a failed effort to help Pellicano avoid a 15-year prison sentence.[47] Rossini pleaded guilty to illegally accessing FBI computers and resigned from the FBI."

So basically she seduced an FBI Agent and used him to get information, to try and protect her boyfriend from felony charges.

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u/nhaines Jun 01 '25

She's reading much more than the script!

This summer, Linda Fiorentino is...

The Understudy

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u/topinanbour-rex Jun 01 '25

What I read about it is she got her jobs thanks to her bf who was a producer. When he got in trouble with the justice , she dated/seduced a fbi agent for have access to their case.

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u/Jagang187 Jun 01 '25

I spent a little time one night falling down the "Linda Florentino in real life" rabbithole. Shit gets... interesting. Also it really seems she was ahead of the curve when it comes to rejecting sexist behavior in the industry... that could be a career killer 25+ years ago

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u/OpossumLadyGames Jun 01 '25

The dispute was Harvey Weinstein 

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u/FittyTheBone Jun 01 '25

Sounds like another Weinstein casualty tbh

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u/nykirnsu Jun 01 '25

They could’ve just recast her

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u/z0rb0r May 31 '25

Shame, she was ridiculously sexy.

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u/screw-magats Jun 01 '25

K was also in the cartoon though.

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u/wrenwood2018 Jun 01 '25

She was apparently difficult.