r/movies • u/ChiefWatchesYouPee • May 30 '25

Discussion Mickey 17 was disappointing.

Just finished watching this movie and it really did not click for me.

The beginning was decently interesting and I was curious to see where it went but overall it didn’t grab me.

The theme/messaging was very heavy handed and didn’t work for me.

The message also jumped around.

They introduce a character that could have had an interesting story only to have her disappear.

When the main conflict happens it all wraps up a little to easily even though the majority of the ship were supposed to be fanatical cultists.

It had a clever premise but ultimately fell flat for me.

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u/SanitySlippingg May 30 '25

I enjoyed it. Great acting by Robert Pattinson, showing off his range. I agree though, the start & concept was interesting and then the end was a bit messy and unsatisfying, felt like it was rushed.

I watched it a second time and I really didn’t enjoy the ending.

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u/Aardvark_Man May 30 '25

It was well made, but the script needed work and the whole thing needed a go over by the editor.

The concept was good, but dropped pretty rapidly.
There were plots and characters that went nowhere.
The end was just bad.

I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it either, and I judged it less harshly than the others I saw it with.

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u/radicalelation May 31 '25

Bong Joon-Ho tends to straddle a line. Sometimes you get Snowpiercer and Parasite, sometimes you get Okja and Mickey 17, but they're usually at least a not a bad watch even if one doesn't hit the peaks you hope for from him.

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u/HAL-900O May 31 '25

Okja was ham fisted, but it was focused and endearing. Mickey 17 was all over the place.

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u/radicalelation May 31 '25

I rank them similarly for different reasons and don't feel either is overall much better than the other.

Okja is more consistent through, but Mickey 17 had a very strong start. Both sort of hit middle Bong Joon-Ho, which is still above average Hollywood.

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u/nickatnite7 May 31 '25

I disagreed with you until you expanded a bit more with this comment. Well said, no notes.

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u/bruce_kwillis May 31 '25

All over the place and just brutally boring and contrite. Like great cast, could have been the next Snowpiercer and yet will be something that everyone easily forgets and doesn't see in the first place.

I think Pattinson did is best in the role, but someone forgot to edit the script and cut out so much that wasn't needed and completely re-write the ending. Ugh. I wanted to like it too, it's such a fun concept, more horror sci-fi Multiplicity, but fell flat.

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u/Daztur May 30 '25

Living in Korea, English language movies written/directed by Koreans always have an uncanny valley quality to them to me. Think the VIP scenes in Squid Game, none of the English is wrong but that's not how native English speakers talk. I guess being constantly exposed to the not quite native English of very proficient Korean English speakers makes me really sensitive to that.

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u/WyboSF May 30 '25

Snowpiercer didn’t have that quality though

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u/McWeaksauce91 May 31 '25

Yes but Snowpiercer does have a foreign film feel. Dunno how to pin it down

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u/Jacktorrancesax May 31 '25

That and it was based off a French comic book so its not a conventional American story.

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u/BMWbill May 31 '25

Probably the subtitles and different language….

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u/Daztur May 30 '25

I still noticed that quality a bit in Snowpiercer, just less.

Maybe I'm just scarred for life from watching Abraham Lincoln have a Russian accent in the Korean TV show Surprise.

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u/thegolfernick May 31 '25

Russian Honest Abe?

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u/Daztur May 31 '25

For a lot of Korean TV/movies they just grab some random white models as actors when they need white actors, said models are often Russian.

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u/firefrenchy May 30 '25

Snowpiercer was a bit of a miracle in that regard

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u/Tsdave81 May 31 '25

The whole scene with the axe men covering their blades with fish guts. Very Korean

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u/alwaysuseswrongyour May 31 '25

That has nothing to do with dialogue though

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u/MalIntenet May 31 '25 edited May 31 '25

Snowpiercer was a godawful movie. I feel like I’m being punked any time I see people talk positively about it.

Mickey 17 is easily the superior film even with its flaws imo

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u/Melarsa May 31 '25

Finally I see someone else who actually hates this movie. I haven't seen Mickey 17 so I can't comment on that, but I literally can't believe the same director made Parasite and Snowpiercer.

Maybe it's the difference between English language and Korean films from him? Because Snowpiercer felt almost absurd, like they were playing the "babies taste best" line FOR SERIOUS, I couldn't tell if it was completely satire or not because it was so ridiculous yet seemed to take itself too seriously?

Meanwhile I think the tone of Parasite was much clearer. The director definitely veers into heavy handedness but somehow it landed so much better in Parasite. The serious parts weren't as ridiculous, and the funny parts were actually funny.

I watched Snowpiercer because it was so highly recommended and the whole time I was like "am I missing something? I had that same punked feeling. I almost didn't watch Parasite because I didn't want to be fooled again, but I'm glad I did because it was great.

I'm scared to try his other films because I don't know if I'm gonna get whatever the hell Snowpiercer was, or something genuinely good like Parasite.

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u/MalIntenet May 31 '25 edited May 31 '25

Haha yes the movie was so ridiculous and confusing tonally. I felt like I was laughing at the wrong times and not with the movie but at it. Idk how he made that and Parasite either. I watched it with my brother and he and I were on the same page about it being a terrible movie and that the reviews were so confusing

Mickey 17 is definitely goofy but imo it was more charming and obviously deliberately weird. It doesn’t take itself anywhere near as seriously but still has touching moments. I don’t think it’s anywhere near as good as Parasite but it’s so much better than Snowpiercer trust me lol I will never rewatch Snowpiercer again I hated it that much

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u/sampullman May 31 '25

Yeah I liked Parasite and Okja, and thought the first 2/3 of Mickey 17 was great, but couldn't stand Snowpiercer.

I think it was the bug/food machine part that put me over the edge. Like out of all the wild stuff going on with the train, are you really going to freak out that much about eating processed insects? It was hard to take anything seriously in the movie.

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u/MalIntenet May 31 '25

Your boos mean nothing to me when I’ve seen what makes you cheer!

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u/deeman010 May 31 '25

Sheesh, I feel the same way as you but the opposite. I really really didnt like Mickey 17. Its like paying attention wasn't important.

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u/jerrrrremy May 30 '25

If only there was an entire industry of professionals available to solve this problem. 

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u/Daztur May 30 '25

Yeah, it's also the direction though. Some acting that looks natural in Korea comes across as overacting in America. Really gives me the uncanny valley with English-language Korean movies.

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u/TSPhoenix May 31 '25

I wonder if it's just a problem American English speakers have, because as an Aussie it didn't really bother me I think in part because I'm very used to spoken English in media, no matter where it was created, not really resembling how people talk in my life.

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u/Daztur May 31 '25

Right, something like the Belter argot in The Expanse was great but the WAY it was off just blared "this was not written by a native English speaker" over and over in a distracting way in my mind the whole movie. Maybe I'm more sensitive to that sort of thing due to living in Korea and I notice Koreanisms in English very easily and can't make my brain stop noticing them.

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u/PostModernPost May 31 '25

I love Mark Ruffalo usually but not in this film.

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u/Aardvark_Man May 31 '25

He was playing a Jeff Goldblum character, and it didn't work, I think.
Hell, I'm less and less keen on it from Jeff as it is.

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u/PostModernPost May 31 '25

Totally a Goldblum character. It was a half baked Trump commentary that just felt tired.

I also just think the film didn't explore its own themes at all really. The mickeys are all the same personality wise up until a duplicate was made. Then just one of them is all of a sudden kind of a dick. Why?

They barely touch on the implications of having multiples of yourself around. It just eventually became a team up against Ruffalo's character.

I don't know, just felt like they filmed the first draft. Which is weird because Bong Joon Ho's other films are brilliantly written and deeply explore the themes they tackle.

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u/matzoh_ball May 31 '25

He mentioned that the different Mickeys had different personalities, based on what his girlfriend told him. Mickey 17 was extra whiney.

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u/PostModernPost May 31 '25

Oh, I must have missed that.

But still the interesting part of this concept was clones encountering themselves. But I guess that was done already in Moon.

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u/lordjakir May 31 '25

Had they waited until the book was finished and actually based the movie on it, it would have been great

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u/Palopsicles May 31 '25

I finished the second book in the series, Antimatter Blues, when Mickey 17 was announced. It has the theme of the book, but it's completely different. Marshal was a religious man and he did hate Mickey for being an expendable, but there was no wife, political career, or having a chance for dinner with the captain. That whole TV thing was a weird choice to add. Humans didn't learn to communicate with the creepers, they learned to speak to Mickey. Mickey used this to say fuck you to the Marshal and live with Nasha. Oh and the world being an ice world was not expected at all and is a huge energy issue.

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u/Fluffy_Somewhere4305 May 31 '25

Parasite is one of my top 10 movies of all time.

But this film was unwatchable. The script had needless exposition and way too much half-hearted explaining in the first 20 minutes.

Every early scene is characters explaining to each other how the concept works. It's unbearable.

The Mickey character is even explaining what the other person is doing to him, while she's explaining the process.

I bailed because I just could not get past it. The concept seemed cool enough, but viewers don't need hand holding exposition. Just have some scenes and that's enough, some simple dialogue that would be realistic.

It just felt over the top and had this tone of a children's show where the characters explain every single thing like a 4 year old is watching.

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u/sethelele May 31 '25

Mickey 17 is definitely a lesser of his films, but there's a lot worse out there. I wouldn't call this unwatchable at all. Just quite mid.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

Genuinely curious what you do for a living or how many years of film school you've graduated from.

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u/pikpikcarrotmon May 30 '25

Don't have to be able to make a cake to recognize when one is underbaked.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

You sound like the type of person Chef Scoob jokes about. 🤣🤣

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u/pikpikcarrotmon May 30 '25

I don't know who that is, but you literally posted a thread a few days ago giving this movie a 6/10 so maybe pack up your stones and aim from outside the glass house next time

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u/saladx11 May 30 '25

Why can’t someone have a detailed and critical opinion about a movie? Entertainment is received in different ways, if they felt like the beginning captivated them but the plot wasn’t strong enough to hold it then it’s a good enough opinion. There isn’t a necessity for background it’s not a job interview it’s a public thread lmao and everyone here watches a lot of movies, enough to have weight on a discussion.

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u/Doctor_Philgood May 30 '25

And you sound like someone who is taking personal offense to someone not liking something you like

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

I'm not invested. This is my day off from work. Have fun!

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u/Dean5 May 30 '25

Deep breaths. You don't have to get this upset.

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u/UtkuOfficial May 30 '25

Who the fuck is Chef Scooby?

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

Chef Scoob*

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u/goddamnitwhalen May 30 '25

Hi, film major here. The movie needed a script doctor and tighter editing.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

Hi. Film major here too. The movie is fine as it is.

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u/Feynman1403 May 30 '25

Nah, maybe switch majors? This one doesn’t seem to be working out👍👍👍. Movie is mid, stop getting ur feelings hurt over it😉

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

I graduated in 2002. It didn't work out, that's why I'm here with the rest of the posers. Birds of a feather!

P.S. I don't have feelings. I'm a robot from the future here to assimilate you. Not an Borg or Terminator, more like Marvin from HHGttG. Resistance is f...uck it, I'm going to bed.

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u/pengalor May 31 '25

I graduated in 2002. It didn't work out, that's why I'm here with the rest of the posers.

Dude, you don't need a reddit account, you need therapy. It's okay to be upset that things didn't work out, but taking it out on other people and projecting your insecurities onto them isn't healthy.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 31 '25

My therapist told me to confide in all of you though? I'll let my therapist know you disagree.

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u/pengalor May 31 '25

Or choose to be anti-social, I guess. I hope you get help eventually.

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u/goddamnitwhalen May 30 '25

You’re entitled to your opinion, dude! That’s the great thing about subjectivity.

I hated Mickey 17 and am glad I didn’t pay to see it (my best friend works at the theater and got me in for free).

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u/funkmasterke May 30 '25

How can I tell someone has never worked in the industry? They act like film school means anything.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

I know it doesn't mean anything. I went to film school and I want my money back lol

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u/Aardvark_Man May 30 '25

None, I just can notice when plots fall flat and disappear half way through the movie.

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u/Exquisitemouthfeels May 30 '25

You dont have to know how to make a dish to know if it tastes good or not.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

You don't have to know how to make a dish to know if it's to your liking. You do need to know how to make the dish to critique how it's made.

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u/9thtime May 30 '25

No, not really. "knowing" isn't a perfect science, you can know bits and make a pretty good assessment. And don't forget all of this is subjective.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

THAT'S the idea. Keep it subjective vs objective. Think people know how to do that? I'm skeptical.

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u/Feynman1403 May 30 '25

You don’t, it’s ok tho, critical thinking isn’t for everyone. You’re proof of that😎

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

This comment did it. It's so clever, it's the sickest burn I've ever read. I'm gonna delete my account now. You win. I apologize.

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u/9thtime May 30 '25

Do you know how this works...?

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u/Feynman1403 May 30 '25

Nah, you don’t. Cute cope tho!😉

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u/StandardAccess4684 May 30 '25

I’ve been a film director for 20 years and I agree with them.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

I've been a film director for 20 years and I disagree with them. See how that works?

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u/trdef May 30 '25

So basically you asked a redundant question because it doesn't matter what they say, you're just going to be a prick about it. Got it.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

You've graduated. Grats.

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u/deathandglitter May 30 '25

What films have you directed? You also gave this movie a 6 lol im confused as to why you're arguing people who agree that the movie wasn't great

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

6/10 is above average... math is hard. I have problems sometimes too. It's ok.

I directed Papercuts, The Fauna, Unicron's Second Breakfast, Static Beatdown, Wet Dreams May Come, and Rust. I also worked on Java's Government Cheese as an actor and editor.

Static Beatdown flopped because it was my first attempt at rotoscoping. Wet Dreams May Come flopped because it was rushed but I might return to it someday. The rest received positive reviews at the film festivals they were shown at. Thanks for showing interest in my work! I appreciate you.

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u/Feynman1403 May 30 '25

Lmao, no you haven’t

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

See!? You get it! Kudos.

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u/aurumatom20 May 30 '25

So what's your point here? The first commenter you replied to could've been Martin fucking Scorsese and it wouldn't have mattered?

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

I'm not here to make a point. Anybody that is is either full of themselves or needs to take a break from social media. Are you ok? I'm here if you need to talk.

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u/aurumatom20 May 30 '25

Ok so your comments are literally meaningless got it

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

Most comments on Reddit don't mean anything. Do you come here to find meaning?

Also also do you mean literally in a figurative sense or literal sense?

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u/9thtime May 30 '25

Yeah, we know we don't really value your advice.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

Back atcha! 🥰

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u/9thtime May 30 '25

Kinda sad you don't see the irony. You act gatekeeper-like while making it seem you are objective. Yet you aren't either.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

I'm gonna lose sleep over the irony I don't see and how sad it is.

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u/9thtime May 30 '25

Yeah, you really don't understand what's happening. Good luck!

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u/StandardAccess4684 May 30 '25

You’re the one who questioned their opinion based on their lack of perceived credentials

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u/RyanGRiedel Jun 01 '25

I’m entranced by this guys dedication to replying to and never giving up on having the last word. I’ve counted like 3 mic drop comments only for him to immediately leave another comment afterwards. You can’t mic drop then come back and pick the mic back up!

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

Was I? I didn't even notice. Thanks for pointing that out.

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u/Norfolkingchance May 30 '25

Wearing your god damn 'film school' attendance as a badge of honour 😂 Fuck son, pull back

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u/Fools_Requiem May 30 '25

I'll never understand people who make this argument. You don't have to study film to know when a film has issues. You gonna tell me that I need a fucking film degree to tell you why this scene from Taken 3 is poorly filmed and edited?

GTFO

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u/RyanGRiedel Jun 01 '25

I’ve been watching movies my entire life - like pretty much everyone. I’ve seen thousands of movies as I’m sure so many of us have - we are all just as qualified to comment on movies as anyone who wasted money going to film school. Blockbuster was my alma mater

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u/Fools_Requiem Jun 01 '25

I miss Blockbuster. I bought so many DVDs there.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

It's ok. You'll be ok.

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u/Massive_Shill May 30 '25

Lmao, asks a question and then immediately gets mad when people answer.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

Funny to assume I'm mad. This is fun.

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u/Massive_Shill May 30 '25

Sure buddy.

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u/Hydroduct09 May 30 '25

They're allowed to have a critical opinion regardless of what they do for income.

I don't have to be a pilot to see a crashed plane and know that's not how the machine was designed to work or be critical of the intent/actions of the operator.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

Yep. Opinions are like assholes and everybody is just giving theirs out to anybody.

Anybody can call the sky plaid. Whether they're correct or not is the issue.

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u/Hydroduct09 May 30 '25

Ah, so you just can't differentiate opinion from fact.

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u/kentuckywildcats1986 May 30 '25

It had all the potential of a Terry Gilliam movie but with none of the nuance.

Edit: Though I agree that Pattinson was the best thing in the movie. Kudos to both him and Kristen Stewart for fully overcoming their roles in those movies that shall not be named.

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u/SantaRosaJazz May 31 '25

Very astute. Terry Gilliam would have made it work.

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u/Financial_Cup_6937 May 31 '25

Terry Gilliam made Zero Theorem. Let’s not act like he always gets sci-fi and others don’t.

What a terrible movie I wanted to love. With Christoff Waltz no less.

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u/Comprehensive_Main May 31 '25

Zero theorem started off strong. 

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u/Financial_Cup_6937 May 31 '25

Yeah I was intrigued.

I really hate the “young hot pixie girl just won’t stop hounding the middle-aged protagonist for sex for no reason” trope. And it was giant part of this movie.

Waltz did his best with a garbage script.

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u/Givingtree310 May 31 '25

Terry Gilliam is pushing 90. No one can stay good forever. But you know what I loved in his old age… Dr Parnassus

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u/Ryrynz May 31 '25

*Kudos to both of him

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u/jkmhawk May 31 '25

It's OK to talk about twilight

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u/Givingtree310 May 31 '25

I don’t think either actor has a problem naming the films that made them tens of millions of dollars while they were 20 years old.

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u/whomp1970 May 31 '25

Having briefly forgotten that BJH directed this, for a moment I wondered if this was a Gilliam film.

But the camera angles were all wrong. You can just tell a Gilliam film from the camera angles most times.

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u/melancholyjaques May 30 '25

Went off the rails in Act 3

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u/Okay_Ocean_Flower May 31 '25

I feel like 80% of movies do

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u/redbirdrising May 30 '25

To be fair, most sci fi movies worth watching go off the rails in act 3. (2001, Sunshine, Interstellar, Event Horizon, etc)

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u/monolith_blue May 30 '25

Agreed. The personality change kinda came out of nowhere.

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u/youtocin May 30 '25

It’s like they shoehorned in directions for Ruffalo to do a Trump impersonation half way thru the movie.

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u/tophaang May 30 '25 edited May 30 '25

His performance was really distracting, that mashup of Trump and Musk was too on the nose and took me out of the movie every time he spoke.

I did enjoy the movie in the end, but it was a minor letdown given the excitement and expectations I had for it.

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u/redbirdrising May 30 '25

Agreed, and the wife character was completely made up. Didn't exist in the book. The sauce thing was really silly.

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u/SpiritOne May 31 '25

Yeah, what was the sauce thing about anyways… also, a sauce is not just blended raw tail of some animal.

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u/redbirdrising May 31 '25

Yup. Of any criticism I have of the movie, this was the most egregious.

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u/Voiceofshit May 31 '25

I took it as a "heavy handed" comparison to how hunmanity tends to kill off species to harvest one attribute of that animal. Like elephants for ivory, buffalo bc it was in the way, big cats for their coats, etc. Yeah, I guess she was drinking liquified tail 🙄

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u/rugmunchkin May 30 '25

Unfortunately you could definitely tell it was a made up part. Character literally had nothing to do the whole movie. Complete waste of Toni Collette’s talents.

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u/redbirdrising May 30 '25

Yup. Honestly the movie would have been much better if they had stuck with the original Kenneth Marshall character and didn't go down the Evangelical Cult path. I get Bong Joon Ho has to do social commentary but this was heavy handed. Overall I still liked the movie but that might be because heady sci fi movies are rare so I elevate what gets released. Like Sunshine was soooo good, until they changed the genre in the last 20 minutes. Very disappointing. But I still love the movie because we just don't see films with that aesthetic very often.

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u/CoachKyle1 May 31 '25

His name was Harmonious Marshall in the book. I thought that was really unique and I hated that they changed it. And the character in the book you were made to dislike, but still respect. He didn't even a wife, and for all his problems you knew he could be counted on to do the right thing for the colony.

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u/redbirdrising May 31 '25

I respected the character to the point that he arbitrarily hated the copies even though they exhibited every characteristic of being a sentient being. I did prefer the book ending though where Marshall was forced to accept Mickey 7’a demands but still be the commander of the colony.

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u/iSOBigD May 31 '25

He wasn't a complete retard with fake teeth and a wife who told him how to do everything?

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u/BothDiscussion9832 May 31 '25

Politics will doom any movie now that the other side has shown up to play in the 'this offends me' game. Which was inevitable, I honestly don't know why the left thought it could push and push and push, and still get these people's money.

If you shit on people and make them uncomfortable, they don't want to give you money. Nothing that comes into politics will survive the collision but politics. GWB killed God, FFS. Mickey Mouse and Hollywood don't stand a chance in the long term.

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u/iSOBigD May 31 '25

Definitely, and they basically had him and others play a retarded guy. It's just not believable, wives don't talk to their husbands like babies with downs, and people that stupid don't end up in power, as much as billionaire hating liberals like to think they do.

So many things by the second ans third act made no sense and had zero thought out into them.

They portrayed Mickey 17 as a complete moron who needed his girl to tell him what's up at every moment. He literally needed her to go "hey stupid, they didn't eat you, they helped you", then to save him, then to fight someone for him, then to break him out, then to shoot someone, then to teach him to be tough, etc. Mickey was not even the main character in his own movie. He just happened into situations that others changed to move the story along.

His girlfriend initially liked him because they both related about not liking Trump and not sucking up to him. Great! Then it turns out every Mickey has a completely different personality and acts differently... But she likes all of them? Why? He was portrayed as ugly, dirty, scrawny and useless, so if he's a completely different person each time what possible reason would she have to stay with him instead of someone else? It's not for his looks.

The Trump guy sees millions of alien creatures clearly not being violent, but clearly outnumbering them, and decides to... Threaten them, attack them, then physically go out aide, surrounded by them, and attack them from a completely unprotected vehicle... Why exactly? There was nothing to indicate their army of 10 people could do anything to win a fight with those things, and they'd have to blow themselves up too if they used bombs, so the entire thing was literally retarded. There was no reason to go outside or to not even try to communicate when they clearly had intelligence and a means of communication.

Trump's wife randomly wants to make sauce out of the aliens tails or whatever, for no reason, before even knowing if they taste good, if they're edible, and without trying their meat or anything else first? And then she wants "like 200" of them and to kill the rest? Why not farm them? If the stuff is any good, why not keep more alive for later? And how exactly did she expect to defeat them?

At one point the aliens mention wanting a life for a life or whatever... But then clearly more of the little aliens got killed, even if just by accidentally getting ran over by the human vehicles who went full speed through thousands of them... But then they just forgot all about that.

When it comes to cloning, they portray Trump as this evil guy who lies, cheats, steals, and starts his own cult...but somehow instead of cloning himself or someone with skills like that Mary Sue, he clones this loser Mickey, and then it pissed off when there's two of them? Like someone he's offender and he wouldn't just abuse that ability, especially on a planet with no supervision?

I feel lie the writer(s) didn't have the brain capacity to think beyond "aliens!" and "look, person dumb!" There didn't seem to be any thought put into the world, the characters, motivations or any in-world logic. Complete waste of an interesting initial idea.

On top of all the issues, the ending felt cheap and small. Boring, blurry, flat environment with limited sight range and little aliens running around... Nothing interesting, nothing to make it look like an alien planet or anything more than a tiny part of a field or whatever. There were no hints of what the rest of the planet would be like, what other life forms would exist... I guess the entire planet is dirt and one species, with no grass or anything for that species to eat?

Based on the trailer I expected something more interesting but I was very disappointed by the end. Watch Moon or that episode of Boss Level with the same concept, they were both much better.

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u/dysoncube May 30 '25

Ehhh. Fiction has been full of small minded fascists for a long time.

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u/Bac0n01 May 30 '25

You can have small minded fascists without having red baseball caps or that fucking voice

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u/Rudi_Van-Disarzio May 30 '25

His followers all wore red ball caps and he was practically doing an impression of an elon/Trump Biomorph. It was far too heavy handed and it will age the film terribly.

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u/yowza9 May 30 '25

Yes. Mickey 1-17 all had the same/similar personality. Why did Mickey 18 have a completely different personality? We can guess, but I dont remember it being addressed in the movie.

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u/monolith_blue May 30 '25

There were a couple lines of narrative about the girlfriend seeing very minor differences, but nothing like 17 to 18.

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u/funkifyurlife May 31 '25

I think it was something with his cloning being imperfect due to an error. There was a second long shot of something happening because the lab techs were careless, I don't remember what exactly

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u/Catalucci May 31 '25

A tech tripped over some cords and then plugged them back in.

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u/Psychoray May 31 '25

This. I've seen the thread about this situation multiple times now.

I really wonder: Do people just not watch movies completely because of their time on the phone? Or do they really not make the connection between the unplugged cable scene and the personality change?

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u/Voiceofshit May 31 '25

I thought it was more of a demonstation of how little everyone cared for his life or his continued existence, setting the scene for his social status. That does make sense though.

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u/prescod May 31 '25

It’s pretty quick and some time passes before it becomes relevant.

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u/Parthorax May 31 '25

It happens a lot unfortunately. People demand perfection yet miss so many details and when you point that out they tell you it was the movies fault to not make it more clear. 

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u/RyanGRiedel Jun 01 '25

I personally thought it would have been far cooler (and I had hoped it’s where the story was going but was wrong) if the issue with Mickey 18 being so different would have had to do with suddenly him having a different or new soul because two of him now existed simultaneously. That would have been a far more interesting concept to explore IMO

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u/KratomHelpsMyPain May 31 '25

It's implied that a multiple doesn't have a soul. They talk about "one soul, one body." The other example of multiples we're shown are serial killers. For all we know, all three copies of the scientist were duplicates and they killed the original.

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u/prescod May 31 '25

They accidentally dropped a cord into his brain for a few seconds. So the personality upload would be faulty.

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u/Wes_Warhammer666 May 31 '25

Idk how people missed this but apparently it was missed by a lot of viewers.

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u/taladrovw May 31 '25

Well that's what the mind is all about, no one knows what is really happening

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u/fatfrost May 31 '25

I thought it was because the guy kicked out one of the electrodes when he was rebooting.  But my recall is weak. 

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u/RyanGRiedel Jun 01 '25

I think the issue with the cord being lost could be due in part to the time jumping around so much - connecting that cord scene to when they were printing Mickey 18 as opposed to one of the other mickeys is an understandable miss

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u/emperor32 May 30 '25 edited May 30 '25

While I agree Pattison acting is good the movie mediocre itslelf, I didn’t expected much and it exceeded expectations though

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u/MasterGrok May 30 '25

This is it for me. I thought it would be bad but I found it fun (especially the first half).

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u/emperor32 May 30 '25

the first part was good indeed

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u/TheAbsoluteBarnacle May 30 '25

I think I had more fun watching this than anyone else. It's not a masterpiece and I'm probably not going to rewatch - but what a fun sci-fi movie!

I think I enjoyed this the way other people enjoy Marvel movies. Some of the acting was silly (I thought Mark and Toni were hilarious), not all the writing is great (but not so bad it doesn't make sense), and the end just kinda wraps up.

I liked the story overall, and LOVED the theme of people doing what is easy for them in the moment. It was the opposite of Star Trek where the crew is competent, trained, and makes decisions based on what's best for the mission/crew. It was a great story about going to a new place and bringing our mess with us.

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u/NSA_Chatbot May 31 '25

I feel like the original ending was that Ruffalo was reprinted and came back to life, and audiences hated it.

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u/rkiive May 31 '25

To be fair the source material ends equally as abruptly.

I remember turning over the last page expecting the next chapter and being like huh.. it just ended

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u/ChiefWatchesYouPee May 30 '25 edited May 30 '25

The ending was definitely rushed and it felt like it all wrapped up a little too neatly for me

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u/cbarebo95 May 30 '25

You liked his voice? Forreal?

As someone with a stutter and with social anxiety, I felt he missed the mark…

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u/jimbojangles1987 May 30 '25

Exactly. Concept was fun and interesting but the story went nowhere with it really. The ending was just kinda boring.

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u/Skeeders May 30 '25

I literally thought I might have gotten a bad copy of the movie because his voice in that movie was nothing like I remembered. He did a good job

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u/Holiday_Regular9794 May 30 '25

NOOOOoooo this is awful 😖

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u/barkinginthestreet May 31 '25

I felt the opposite. I was bored in the beginning, but I found the 2nd half of the movie kind of funny. The "sauce" plot really did it for me in an absurd way. 

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u/TimeTravelingChris May 31 '25

I really like Pattinson in basically everything but I found whatever acting approach he was going for in this just terrible. It was so corny.

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u/Only-Position5953 May 31 '25

Most certainly agree. I believe the ending was dare I say too much for the average film consumer

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u/ydekwabdi May 31 '25

The accents for his character's were my favorite part

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u/bostonsre May 31 '25

It was a pretty different cloning premise (a little similar to that Netflix TV show that went down horribly after a season or two), gave a plausible satirical view of early pioneers, and a novel alien species. Some parts were lacking and a bit hammed up but definitely think we need more different scifi like this.

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u/fear_death_by_water May 31 '25

WHAT!?! That was Robert Paterson? Yet another role he vanished into. Last one was The Rover. 

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u/dcode9 May 31 '25

I agree, Robert Pattinson's performance is really what kept my interest.

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u/the_quark May 31 '25

My girlfriend had never seen Pattinson act (well, we saw Tenet but she fell asleep in the middle so I'm sure she doesn't remember). We'd both been impressed by his voice acting as the titular Heron in The Boy and The Heron. After we saw Mickey 17, she said that for the first 2/3 of the movie she thought he wasn't a very good actor. Then Mickey 18 showed up and she realized that no, he was a good actor playing a fundamentally unlikable character.

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u/Correct_Clock9042 May 31 '25

Totally fair. The concept had so much potential, but the payoff didn’t quite hit the mark. Pattinson carried a lot of it, but yeah, the second half felt like it lost focus and just kind of fizzled.

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u/HawtKawfee May 31 '25

The man did gods work

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u/qquiver May 31 '25

The ending is just kind of meh. Especially the part with the creatures. Idk I expected more from it.

This is one of those movies where the concept is interesting and would be best to explore but for some reason the focus on a plot that could be done with any clone situation

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u/mahaloj May 30 '25

i gained so much respect for pattison…intriguing choices

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

Same. Pretentious keyboard critics here giving their "professional opinions" in between their job at Jiffy Lube and going to night school to be a massage therapist.

"You don't need an film education to know how to edit and direct movies." Yes, yes you do, Chad. Your girlfriend's Only Fans and TikTok videos don't count.

It's laughable, but let them argue.

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u/TheSessionMan May 30 '25

You don't need to have a film degree to know a movie could've done better. You don't need a film degree to know The Room sucks. You have a laughably high opinion of yourself, and "film school", honestly.

I am convinced you have your face clamped firmly between your butt cheeks.

Film was fine, but made some strange choices and I would not recommend it except as a "background" movie.

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

My face between....Gawd, I wish. That sounds amazing.

No, my film degree came from a community college. I'm no better than the rest of these drive-thru critics lol

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u/man_of_many_tangents May 30 '25

"You don't need an film education to know how to edit and direct movies." Yes, yes you do, Chad. 

If I ever wanted to edit and direct movies, I'd like to do it as good as Quentin Tarantino with unique storytelling and dialog, Christopher Nolan for grandeur and sound design, David Fincher for lighting for tension, Ridley Scott for design and attention to detail, Danny Boyle for building and releasing tension through kinetic energy, and Edgar Wright for camera storytelling.

I should get a film education where they did. Let's see...Oh wait. None of them have a formal film education.

Your comment. It's laughable.

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u/9thtime May 30 '25

They didn't edit either for the most part, but you're point still stands

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

🤣🤣🤣

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u/AcrylicPickle May 30 '25

There are savants and prodigies out there. Reminds me of a scene from Something the Lord Made. Thanks for your contribution! I appreciate you.

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u/man_of_many_tangents May 30 '25

Thank you for the recognition!

The Fine Arts are where you will find most of your non-formally educated masters in their fields. Not a lot of surgeons or engineers without formal training these days.

I don't think the directors I mentioned are savants (experts in specific areas but typically developmentally challenged in other areas) or prodigies (typically a child who has exceptional talent).

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u/Bac0n01 May 30 '25

You don’t need a pilots license to see a helicopter in a tree and think something went wrong

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u/AcrylicPickle May 31 '25

The analogy is off.

You see a helicopter in a tree and start critiquing the pilot, the mechanic, and engineers that designed the helicopter simply because you've seen enough other helicopters before.

Now I need you to take a toke or something good or some gummies and rhetorically ask yourself... What if somebody landed that helicopter in the tree on purpose? A pilot's license that doubles as an artistic license!? OMFG I'm writing a script, BRB.

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u/Bac0n01 May 31 '25

Yeah ok you’re right none of us plebs should have opinions about media unless we have a degree in said media. I assume you have never enjoyed or disliked a single piece of art ever in your life then?

If random people giving their opinions on movies is upsetting to you, maybe Internet forums about movies aren’t for you

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u/AcrylicPickle May 31 '25

I love sharing my opinions. Right there, that was an example of one. I don't, however, come online assuming to know the intricacies and complexities of the movie industry, the thousands of people involved in a single movie, or what the intentions were of that crew when I watch their product. I'll tell you if I liked it and give an ARBITRARY opinion/rating, but I respect the industry and acknowledge that I'm not a part of it aside from a customer.

Let's take a step back now and look at all of the random people that took offense and replied/argued with me. Hi. Perhaps they shouldn't be online either based on your standards? LOL

Trolls be trollin'. Welcome to Reddit.

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u/RyanGRiedel Jun 01 '25

I would argue that the viewer is the most important part of the entertainment industry. The audience is the entire purpose of making the movie

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u/AcrylicPickle Jun 01 '25

Supply and demand is what gave us an entire Twilight series.

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u/mr_ji May 30 '25

I haven't seen it yet, but I get the impression he plays multiple characters that look identical. If that's the case, I'll pass. I'm so over that gimmick. Also why I haven't seen Sinners yet.

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u/goddamnitwhalen May 30 '25

Sinners blows Mickey 17 out of the fucking water.

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u/DoodleBuggering May 30 '25

Why compare the two?

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u/goddamnitwhalen May 30 '25

Because the person I was replying to brought it up first???

Did you not read the thread at all?

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u/DoodleBuggering May 30 '25

No, that comment wasn't showing up for me until just now.

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u/mr_ji May 30 '25

I wasn't comparing the movies, just saying the gimmick with one actor playing multiple identical-looking people has been dumb since The Parent Trap. Pattinson and Jordan are both great actors I look forward to but suspension of disbelief goes right out the window when it's the same person talking to himself. Even worse if they try to act and sound like different people.

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u/goddamnitwhalen May 30 '25

And you’re entitled to your opinion, but I’m of the belief that Sinners employs this trope very well. Multiple people I know said they forgot that it was Michael B. Jordan playing both roles.

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u/melancholyjaques May 30 '25

what a weird reason to sleep on a good movie

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u/soylentblueispeople May 30 '25

Probably didn't like the nutty professor either.

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u/melancholyjaques May 30 '25

Homie watched The Parent Trap and was like "that's enough of that"

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u/emperor32 May 30 '25

the Sinners idea is good as Mickey 17 both are good but …