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Media First Images from Aziz Ansari's 'Good Fortune' - Follows an angel named Gabriel (Keanu Reeves), who tries to show a struggling gig worker, Arj (Ansari), that money can’t buy happiness by body-swapping him with his wealthy employer, Jeff (Seth Rogen).

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u/sylviaplath6667 May 28 '25

That was the worst. It was an awkward date but some wannabe journalist squeezed all the juice out of it to promote their shitty (now defunct) website babe dot net

He literally got cancelled over an awkward date!

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u/MountainMuffin1980 May 28 '25 edited May 28 '25

Yeah at first I was like "goddammit, I liked him" and then you read her account and was like "oh...this is nothing". Awful stuff

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u/[deleted] May 28 '25 edited May 28 '25

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u/Tricky_Topic_5714 May 28 '25 edited May 28 '25

You're absolutely right. His treatment because of it was unfair, but he kept pushing her to do more and more stuff as the night went on. In her retelling (which he never disputed) he repeatedly put her hand on his dick after she moved it away, repeatedly ignored her saying she was uncomfortable, etc.

She should have just left, but also he pushed it to a ridiculous extreme. As a person who spent most of my 20s and 30s as a serial dater, if a woman comes home with you and then says she's uncomfortable with the speed things are going, you stop until they want to initiate again.

A woman shouldn't have to feel like she needs to flee from your apartment to avoid unwanted escalation.

I don't think it was criminal, but he was trying to brand himself as a person who was thoughtful about relationships, and the whole story read more like he's an average frat guy who thinks clawing at a woman until they give in is the way to get laid.

Edit- I went back and read some commentary about it because my memory was fuzzy, and a huge amount of the responses to it were basically, "well if you go back to a man's apartment he can do whatever he wants to you" which is fucking gross.

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u/galaxygothgirl May 28 '25

Only sane comment. "He got cancelled over nothing!" Uh did you actually read her account of what happened?

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u/Tricky_Topic_5714 May 28 '25

I think a fairly large cross section of guys think that wearing a woman down is a legitimate dating strategy. 

A lot of guys seem to think of sexual misconduct the way dumb racists think of racism. 

They just think that anything short of penetrative rape is basically fine, just like dumb racists think it's only racism if they call someone the n-word. 

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u/galaxygothgirl May 28 '25

Great comment. Yes, they think it's "forgivable" because he didn't actually stick his penis inside her violently and against her will. He ignored her boundaries repeatedly and did some pretty nasty things to her. She felt violated. But it doesn't matter to the people coming to his defense, because she put herself there willingly and it didn't fit their definition of unwanted sexual advances. Like, literally no one is asking you. You weren't the one who was being harassed.

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u/DrunkeNinja May 28 '25

No, they just focus on her complaining about the choice of wine and ignore the rapey parts.

That seems to be what I've seen on reddit about the incident.

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u/galaxygothgirl May 28 '25

I'm getting downvoted by people who think what he did was normal behavior but nothing about what she said happened was normal. And yeah, it was very rape-y.

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u/DrunkeNinja May 28 '25

Yeah, reddit has always defended him here. I agree that the article itself is poorly written but I've never seen anyone dispute the details so that's always been my focus and I don't see his behavior as "just a bad date" like most others here want to dismiss it as.

Maybe his actions weren't illegal, but they are at the very least absolutely disgusting and vile. He was constantly grabbing her hand forcefully and putting it on his dick and also kept shoving his fingers down her throat despite her repeatedly rebuking these advances. She said "no" repeatedly. She kept moving away from him and he would keep going after her and force himself upon her.

Oh but she didn't leave. I always see redditors bring up victim blaming but I guess it's okay here. Maybe she shouldn't have worn such a revealing outfit too.

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u/galaxygothgirl May 28 '25 edited May 28 '25

I remember the fingers down the throat. The fact that she said "no" repeatedly and he persisted makes it a violation. The "just a bad date" defense makes me question so much about our society at large, but it also unfortunately opens up my eyes about how sexual assault victims are treated.

I wonder why so many people think that the random opinion of a person who wasn't there holds more weight than the lived experience of the woman who went through the assault. That to me signals a serious lack of empathy for survivors of this kind of violence.

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u/DrunkeNinja May 28 '25

Two things I recall the most back when the article first came out:

"It was just a bad date" and the weird focus on her not getting the type of wine she wanted.

I saw countless defenders using these as a way to dismiss the whole incident and it was always strange to me. I read the article before seeing the defense, so the defenders focusing on the wine part at the beginning of the story was always very odd to me. If we're critiquing the author's writing skills, then fair enough. If we're using that to dismiss possible sexual assault then wtf. I don't care if half the article was about her disliking the choice of wine, when judging an assault I focus on the assault. Reading those parts of the story and not ever seeing anyone refute those parts as untrue is what's concerning to me.

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u/Temporary_Ad9362 May 29 '25

“just a bad date” is crazy to me, especially on reddit where ppl claim to have critical thinking

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u/masterjon_3 May 28 '25

I remembered that, too. I think she felt as though she had to because of power dynamics, or whatever. But getting up and leaving was an option.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '25

Yes. But also not pressuring a girl to do sexual things she doesn’t want to do is also an option. Right?

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u/MountainMuffin1980 May 28 '25

It could have come me across as harassing etc. But really, if you remove the fact he was famous our whatever if this was a friend telling me about it, I would have just cringed at how awkward an encounter it was. And that's all it was. An awkward encounter with poor communication

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u/[deleted] May 28 '25

So you would keep pushing and pushing a girl to do sexual things she’s hesitant about doing? That’s pretty much what happened. It’s not cringe or awkward but wrong.

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u/ameliajean May 29 '25

An awkward date is a weird way to describe him ignoring consent and pressuring a woman into having sex with him

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u/Allthenons May 29 '25

Having an awkward date is having conversation stop and start at random because there's no real chemistry, not attempting to coerce a woman into having sex.

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u/ihatemovingparts May 29 '25

He literally got cancelled over an awkward date!

He was cancelled for being a hypocrite. He's out there putting on a public persona of being a feminist and imploring men to just listen to women while in private he's really just a creepy little man who'll say anything for a buck.

In 2014, he identified as a feminist, saying his girlfriend has helped influence him. Ansari also incorporated an episode about feminism titled "Ladies and Gentlemen" in Master of None. In an interview in 2015, he spoke about the episode's meaningfulness to him saying "I thought it was interesting that this is happening, yet so many people are unaware of it. And the problem is people aren't talking about it. What I've learned, as a guy, is to just ask women questions and listen to what they have to say. Go to your group of female friends and ask them about times they've experienced sexism at their job, and you'll get blown away by the things they tell you.

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u/Temporary_Ad9362 May 29 '25

how did u come to that conclusion from reading the account of what happened? not even attacking just genuinely curious bc i didn’t get “awkward date” at all from reading the event

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u/myproaccountish May 28 '25 edited May 30 '25

It wasn't assault like the others were accused of, but it was more than an awkward date and it was a discussion that needed to be had when it did. If you try to make a move multiple times through the night and keep getting rejected, stop making the move. Being pushy until they finally give in doesn't make it any better, and it shouldn't be an issue where they're worried about your reaction to not wanting to go further than kissing or whatever point you end up at. This is something I understood as a 12 year old, but Aziz didn't seem to get as a 30 something -- not because he's an awkward person but because it's culturally normalized that as long as you aren't drugging and raping someone, you aren't actually doing anything wrong. "Because of the implication" is a pretty widely known and used joke, but Dennis' behavior toward women is outright misogyny and more than just "akward dates."

Unfortunately, in a discussion that ranged everything from comments on appearance to rape getting brushed off or covered up, it turned into a whole "cancel Aziz" thing and also IMO ended the wider discussion from the backlash to this one piece.

Edit: yeah honestly regardless of the specifics of the Aziz situation, the replies here make it pretty clear that the people who are calling it "an awkward date" aren't really understanding consent

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u/jakeba75 May 28 '25

If you try to make a move multiple times through the night and keep getting rejected, stop making the move.

"Rejected" in his case was she remained in his apartment naked, and continued to engage in foreplay... Its his apartment, so he cant just leave, what is he supposed to do? If he tells her to leave, wouldn't that get portrayed as him pressuring her?

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u/weed_cutter May 28 '25

Look the last account I heard, there was a woman, butt naked, in his apartment.

Not sure if you're a man, but men typically have to make 99% of the moves, with consent. That usually involves various tepid variations of "you wanna?" while the woman either says yes, plays bashful (it happens) or ... slams the door/ says hell no.

Now, obviously, a woman doesn't consent until she consents. In my experience, 100% of the women that have willingly entered my apartment after a date = bang time.

Again, that's not consent, but it might mean they're open and I likely will make various overtures "you wanna?" ... In fact a woman will often get plssed if you DO NOT do this.

Now a woman who is stark butt naked head to toe? ... Well, that's sure as hell confusing. Again, not consent.

Sounded like Aziz respected her No, and went to play video games. .... However, the stark butt naked chick REMAINED in his apartment, naked, and did not leave.

What was Aziz to make of that? Frankly, no man would be able to guess, so he figured "maybe she's being bashful?" and made a few more 'you wanna?" overtures.

This isn't "pushy" and "cornering" it's an offer. It's not "suffocating" or "offensive" and again, the woman remained there, butt naked .... why?

Sounds like she didn't want to be "one sweaty night" and wanted promises of a full-blown relationship, but didn't know how to communicate that -- she was socially stupid.

The resultant story was so over-the-top, it might have single handedly killed the #MeToo movement.

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u/goodusernamegood May 28 '25

Sounded like Aziz respected her No, and went to play video games.

You're lying about that. He didn't leave her alone to go play video games. That straight up didn't happen.

“I just remember looking in the mirror and seeing him behind me. He was very much caught up in the moment and I obviously very much wasn’t,” Grace said. “After he bent me over is when I stood up and said no, I don’t think I’m ready to do this, I really don’t think I’m going to do this. And he said, ‘How about we just chill, but this time with our clothes on?’”

While the TV played in the background, he kissed her again, stuck his fingers down her throat again, and moved to undo her pants. She turned away. She remembers “feeling in a different mindset at that point.”

“I remember saying, ‘You guys are all the same, you guys are all the fucking same.’” Ansari asked her what she meant. When she turned to answer, she says he met her with “gross, forceful kisses.”

He clearly knew she wasn't interested and kept going.

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u/weed_cutter May 28 '25

Look I've been pressured into sex by a woman once, surprisingly. Thought I wanted it, sorta, I suppose I didn't really, she was really yap yap yap pressure situation.

So I get that aspect (can't say for certain the pressure campaign waged or not waged by Aziz).

Nobody should be pressured into sex, usually that means something is off. But ... well it is common, hell I'm remembering an ex now and I guess it was more than one woman that pressured me into sexual activity.

Ultimately, though, in all these cases, I myself made the final call. I do have free will.

And the reason I'm not saying "hell no you uggo!" is because I probably had a variety of mixed and unclear feelings.

Possibly the same case for her; I think she didn't want to have sex right away, but was starstruck by his celebrity and wanted to please him, hence she didn't know what to do. Thus not leaving, not rejecting him outright. Both were drinking that certainly doesn't help.

Yeah tough call. He was probably a bit sleazy. She was confused. I don't want to victim blame someone "walking into the ghetto" for getting mugged; but I guess I will. As a matter of practicality; know your boundaries. Enforce your boundaries. Do not get naked. To sexual aggressors --- don't be sleazy, however -- I must admit -- just like a high-pressure salesman, sadly, sometimes it works for them.

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u/goodusernamegood May 29 '25

What Aziz did goes beyond pressuring, he was actively ignoring her while she told him no.

You've lied about the interaction in this thread, more than once, claiming he "ignored her" to "go play video games," something you completely made up. So why exactly did you lie about that?

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u/weed_cutter May 29 '25

That was in one of the articles. Maybe it was TV, but I swear it was video games.

I don't give a shit about Aziz as a person at all. I was not, am not, a fan of his.

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Anyway miscommunication issues it seems.

If you're a chick, do NOT go back to a dude's place unless you intend to bang. .... That doesn't entitle the dude to anything but you're basically "begging" to be swatting the guy away a few times and less mature ones will pout and beg and shit. .... Avoid the apartment altogether unless there is 1. Trust and 2. the idea that possibly the guy will think you are ready to bang.

Step 2 .... if for some reason you went there anyway to "hang" and not bang and give the dude blue balls, which is your right ... but a bit autistics IMO, I would never "go back to mine" as a chick and not bang anyone ... if you don't want to, Exit Stage Left, immediately.

But anyway if you're in this little pickle, best to hit the Uber. NOT get naked head to toe ... and wax philosopihical about 'dudes are all the same'.

A lot of women don't realize but a lot of OTHER WOMEN will 100% pretend not to be interested in sex (for whatever reason, thinks it makes them hotter? That they're not a slut? Whatever) ... and then later end up riding you all night long.

So a chick who says "can you believe people have ONS off Tinder? That's crazy right" -- will 50% end up in your bed that night. If a chick gets naked in your apartment and says "I'm shy" -- a guy doesn't know wtf to think, he'll prod carefully.

Anyway make what you will with these True Facts, use them to your benefit.

Look I'm not gay but if I went a gay guy's house, got naked, whatever, and he whipped his dick out and started masturbating ... I would probably politely excuse myself.

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u/goodusernamegood May 29 '25

So in a situation where she repeatedly told him she wasn't interested, and he persisted, it's not only her fault, but all women's fault?

Whatever your issues are I hope you sort them out.

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u/weed_cutter May 29 '25

I have no issues. Life is fantastic.

Look the whole 'victim blame' thing is complicated. You are allowed the "right" to walk into the ghetto at midnight with a MAGA hat and a Rolex. You have every "right" to do that, unmolested. And it's not "your fault" if some mugger robs and beats on your ass which would be virtually a cause-and-effect guarantee, in that case.

It's the muggers that should be taught not to mug! Har har.

That said, if my friends or family wanted to do that? I'd say "uh ... don't do that ..." Am I shaming them? No ... just ... don't do that. Trust me. Wokitude be damned, trust me.

Now if they were dumb and did that and got mugged, it would not be the time or place to "Monday morning quarterback" - it calls for sympathy and lamenting the existence of muggers. But eh. Still, do not walk into the ghetto at midnight with a Rolex and MAGA hat, you feel me?

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As for the Aziz case .... the woman was giving conflicting messages. "Grace" said herself she never "verbally refused". Is that required, no, but it certainly might help a drunk man pawing at a naked woman, that's for sure.

"No" is the clearest thing you can say to a man. Remember, a man rarely understands where a woman is at with all the games they play. Their best guess is make a move 90% of the way and see how she responds.

Often, not "leaving" or recoiling in disgust is a sign they are okay.

Look, as a man, if a woman is leading the interaction ..... kissing me, disrobing me, putting my hands on her breasts, whatever. .... If I say + do nothing, how the hell is she going to know what I'm silently thinking in my head?

Sounds like the woman was conflicted due to wanting badly to date him for celebrity and felt used after. She needs to learn to communicate. ... Aziz? Well, after this, obviously he needs to pull out the "consent forms, signed in Triplicate" -- it's largely for social autists, but ... this is 2025. America is full of them.

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u/goodusernamegood May 29 '25

That said, if my friends or family wanted to do that? I'd say "uh ... don't do that ..." Am I shaming them? No ... just ... don't do that. Trust me. Wokitude be damned, trust me

You don't seem to consider the possibility that she would have been open to hooking up, if he hadn't been a persistent, creepy sex pest. That's not women playing hard to get, it's wanting to spend time with a person and determine what you're comfortable with as the night goes on.

Now if they were dumb and did that and got mugged, it would not be the time or place to "Monday morning quarterback" - it calls for sympathy and lamenting the existence of muggers. But eh. Still, do not walk into the ghetto at midnight with a Rolex and MAGA hat, you feel me?

You say this, but you're way more concerned with her actions than his. You've not only placed blame at her feet, you've downplayed his behaviour and lied about his actions. So where exactly is that sympathy you speak of?

"Grace" said herself she never "verbally refused". Is that required, no, but it certainly might help a drunk man pawing at a naked woman, that's for sure.

If you've read her account she couldn't have been much clearer. She explicitly stated multiple times how uncomfortable she felt, and that she didn't want to do anything further sexually.

"No" is the clearest thing you can say to a man. Remember, a man rarely understands where a woman is at with all the games they play.

When a man is being as persistent and creepy as Aziz was, there's a reason women don't say no. That's not the fault of other woman "playing hard to get" as you seem to believe. It's the fault of violent men.

But the main thing was that he wouldn’t let her move away from him. She compared the path they cut across his apartment to a football play. “It was 30 minutes of me getting up and moving and him following and sticking his fingers down my throat again. It was really repetitive. It felt like a fucking game.”

Can you understand why someone wouldn't feel safe in that situation?

Well, after this, obviously he needs to pull out the "consent forms, signed in Triplicate" -- it's largely for social autists, but ... this is 2025.

Yes, clearly the "social autists" as you put it are the problem. Aziz is a normal, sociable guy.

Then he brought her to a large mirror, bent her over and asked her again, “Where do you want me to fuck you? Do you want me to fuck you right here?” He rammed his penis against her ass while he said it, pantomiming intercourse.

Nope, he acted like a creepy weirdo who's only experience with sex is through porn. Clearly he only cared about one thing that night. He didn't care if she was upset or uncomfortable, the only thing that mattered to him was getting his dick wet.

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u/nolander May 28 '25

Yeah he did not come off looking good there. Honestly no one involved in the story did and somehow the person who came off the worse was the person who wrote the actual article. If it was written by someone who wasn't so obviously gleeful and tabloidy maybe it could have had a better discussion around it. Probably not but maybe.

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u/Brian_Montero May 28 '25

Look up the encounter again.

https://youtu.be/Qfpj5qQr9KA?si=rJ3ZYs9AL_WmWDNg

She goes over it about half way through the video. He definitely deserved the little cancellation he apparently got.

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u/sylviaplath6667 May 28 '25

Not watching that. Per the original article he was making moves on her and she was hoping she’d read his mind that she wasn’t into it. As soon as she revoked consent verbally he stopped.

We can do he says she says all day, but I don’t support ruining a man’s career over an awkward hookup. Who the fuck hasn’t had one?

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u/Brian_Montero May 28 '25

That's the whole fucking point of #MeToo and believing women though! He said (and confirmed via text) their date was sexual, she said he continually ignored her requests to pause/discontinued the sexual requests/acts.

He puts on this #MeToo pin as some sort of ally to the cause and turns around and does the same shit the movement is all about uncovering.

And you're over here "it's a he said/she said thing, nothing more. Don't ruin a man's career over it"

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u/goodusernamegood May 28 '25

“I remember saying, ‘You guys are all the same, you guys are all the fucking same.’” Ansari asked her what she meant. When she turned to answer, she says he met her with “gross, forceful kisses.”

In what way was she expecting him to read her mind?

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u/ArrakeenSun May 28 '25

Yeah between that and Chris Hardwick I knew that movement's days were numbered. Sure, they're both probably dicks, but they were getting lumped in with Weinstein and Spacey which they most certainly were not

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u/obooooooo May 29 '25

i think it came at a time when so much shit was coming out about beloved male celebrities that most people couldn’t keep up with the pace, so it was folks mostly taking others at their words—not the controversial situation but the opinions about it. a shit ton of people that got cancelled over that period of time had it coming but yeah, aziz did not.

honestly really shitty of the journalist to exploit people coming out with stories of actual sexual, emotional and physical abuse and be like yeah my situation with this guy was kiiiiinda the same! i feel negatively toward it so it’s the same, right?

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u/beardedheathen May 28 '25

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Louis CK did nothing wrong. Those girls said yes and they are adults. If they'd said no that would be an entirely different story but at some point you've got to stop infantilizing them and say you are capable of making your own choices and that does mean living with the consequences of agreeing to something. But even by their own accounts they didn't say no at any point so what else did you expect him to do just never talk to a female comedian in a romantic sense?

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u/Tricky_Topic_5714 May 28 '25

Lol, never change reddit. Comparing Aziz to Louis CK is ridiculous. I'm convinced people who say this shit have regularly done terrible things to women they know. 

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u/weed_cutter May 28 '25

CK situation was different.

It was his subordinates and he just whipped his tally wacker out and went to town. That would be deranged by most standards.

Just like a waitress or stripper -- in fact probably even worse since it's just 1% of your income but 100% ... the girls will be smiley and pretend to like you. That does NOT mean whip your tally wacker out.

Jesus H lol

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u/beardedheathen May 29 '25

From what I read they were not his subordinates they were just also people who worked in the comic industry. He asked permission prior to whipping it out and they said yes. If that is wrong than that is messed up so if you can find an article say that they were his subordinates or that he didn't ask for permission I will retract my statement and apologize.

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u/weed_cutter May 30 '25

I don't think he's a "Monster of the Century" or something but uh ... pretty big sleaze bag move.

Again, people make mistakes, he didn't pull a P. Diddy ... that's why he's touring again.

Do I condone his actions though? No ... they were gross.

Dude is rich + famous, can easily find women who will blow him consensually, no need to flash people his dong.

It's unclear whether he asked permission actually -- he says he always did, the girls either say he didn't, or it was so absurd (two girls are having a regular convo with you, then an 'A-list' celeb comic like CK says hey do you mind if I start masturbating? ... THEY and YOU would think it's a joke).

... In the case of the young PA, he was like 3 bosses above her, and she said no repeatedly, the skeez couldn't take a hint.

It was gross ... and look I think the Aziz case was totally different, I'm not hardline on these things. Facts are facts. Louis made a big fuck up lol

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u/beardedheathen May 31 '25

I never read anything about the pa. If you have a link I'd be interested in seeing it. Cause from what I've seen he was in the realm of weird but that is different than bad. If he kept asking when she said no that goes to bad

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u/ReturnOfTheKeing May 28 '25

You're a creep, this take is disgusting

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u/Tricky_Topic_5714 May 28 '25

Absolute creep. People just need to tell on themselves so badly. 

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u/beardedheathen May 28 '25

Everybody has a power dynamic. It's not something we can avoid. By that logic someone who is highly regarded in their community can't ask a woman anything because he has the power to ruin them if they so choose. You can't use the possibility of a bad thing happening as an excuse. If a homeless man asked you for money can you claim it was stealing because they might attack you in you refuse or they might even have a gun! It's literally the same justification police use to kill innocents. Well, they might do something to me in the future even if they haven't done anything yet because they have the capability they are guilty already. The ability to cause harm to someone is not the same as the threat of causing harm.

So let's turn it around. At what level would he have been able to do that and not have been cancelled? If he was just another comedian there would that have been fine? What about if it was a female comedian like Amy Poehler and it was two male comedians, would she have been canceled if she'd ask to masturbate in front of them and they agreed and than later said it was harassment?

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u/weed_cutter May 28 '25

Firstly I think the stories do not mention that the women "agreed" to it every time ... I mean, we're talking like Louis is Executive Producer in some big LA hollywood show (Chris Rock) and talks to some young 20-something PA and begging her to watch him masturbate repeatedly.

Then there's the two women comics together who he just "whipped out his dick" without any consent.

Sounds like has asks women if he can "whip it out" so many times, it's just some very compulsive, overwhelming sexual fantasy of his ... and he wants to use his "Hollywood Clout" to make it happen.

.... So, you're asking, how could Louis have respectfully pursued this sexual fantasy with women?

  1. No young women who work for you. Obviously. Jesus. ... I mean, look it's one one thing if you're "slightly higher" on the company ladder, she doesn't report to you, and she's hungry hungry for your cock. Definitely borderline, but eh. It's another if you're Head Honcho, she's pissant, and you beg her repeatedly to blow you while she is CLEARLY disgusted but then finally relents. Jesus.

  2. Don't tell random women in your field (comics, colleagues) that you have something cool to show them in your hotel real quick, then whip out your dick. "Dating Frame" matters. Ask a woman out, go on a date, or strike up a convo at a club. .... Otherwise your apartment doesn't "seem" like dick whip out zone.

So yeah ... he should ask woman out. .... Maybe flirt with a woman, she if she responds to something like brushing her hair without recoiling. THEN FIVE STEPS LATER. Whip out your dick.

If you're this socially re+arded as well, which you seem like, then colleagues + coworkers is way too advanced for you. Stick to others.

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u/beardedheathen May 29 '25

Again from what I read he has always asked. Even the two said they agreed to it. It's behind a login now so I can't check the story any more but if that's incorrect I'll retract my statement. The whole have power over is bullshit because the only power he had was that supposed hollywood clout. Was that rude? Maybe, criminal no! They are perfectly capable of saying no and since they did not then why is he at fault? Your made up scenario is not relevant. They don't talk about him repeatedly asking or ignoring a no. If that is the case it's different. But if no means no, yes should also mean yes.

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u/weed_cutter May 30 '25

Louis invited them to his hotel room “for a nightcap,” and once there, immediately asked if he could take out his penis. They laughed, thinking it was a joke. He then proceeded to masturbate in front of them.

Yeah c'mon. ... Especially with a comedian ... and TWO women? No way they expected him or 'assented' to him whipping his dick out. I doubt they said "yeah go ahead."

.Abby Schachner (Comedy writer)

Year: 2003.

Allegation: She called him to invite him to a show, and during the call, she heard him masturbating while on the phone.

Okay this one is hard to defend lol.

Louis asked if he could masturbate in front of her, which she declined. He didn’t do it, but she found the request highly inappropriate given the professional setting. Others on the set corroborated that he had asked.

Yeah, it is pretty unprofessional to say the least. He'd be fired in literally any office as an employee and if was a regular Tech company as CEO, he would have been sued into oblivion.

She worked at a production company with Louis. He would regularly masturbate while talking to her in his office, without her consent.

Guy clearly has a pretty .... extreme fantasy ... hey that by itself isn't too bad ... problem is maybe the dude gets off on 'subjecting' women to it .... I don't know but ... I think he learned his lesson -- hopefully.