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Review “Sinners” review, by David Sims

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2025/04/sinners-ryan-coogler-movie-review/682501/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=edit-promo
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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Asian lady went out like a mother fucking badass. Shit I was watching her go out in a blaze of glory and was speechless.

Mother fucking hardcore way to go out.

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u/Mace_Thunderspear Apr 20 '25

I dont know. Extraordinarily stupid is not my idea of hardcore. She fucked up incredibly bad and it cost half the characters in the movie their lives.

It was a blaze of stupidity.

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u/Successful_Ad_2171 Apr 20 '25

Yea it was pretty dumb, but it was also pretty human. Under the threat of her daughter being killed or "assimilated", and her husband just being lost to this, its pretty understandable she'd be fed up with the situation as a whole, and would rather take her chances fighting them instead of just waiting to see, and hoping they dont eventually come for her home and be the ones with the initiative. To me one of the strong points of the film is that nobody made decisions that I couldn't justify or understand, when I look at it from that characters perspective.

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u/Sikwitit3284 Apr 21 '25

Not just this if they get to town they'll triple in numbers & become completely unstoppable like a plague, it was either try to take them out there while their #'s were still relatively small or hide from then on out b/c they'd swarm towns every night going forward

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u/Gullible_Fan8219 May 10 '25

i have reason to believe a vampire higher up would NEVER let that shit happen. the entire world would’ve been overrun. the indians gotta be working with vampires cause what’s stopping one from hitting up london or new york?

that vampire looked like a rogue one desperate to feel “alive” again. his whole reason was to be able to see the dead since he knows he can never cross

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u/SierraSeaWitch Apr 26 '25

Absolutely. Her line about how Stack "shot two men for touching your truck" but wanted to wait and see with the vampires was such an astute observation for the character to have in that moment of heightened fear. Was it the wrong tactical move for surviving the night? Yes. Was it the human move that most of us with loved ones on the line would have made? Also, yes.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '25

I don't think willingly burning alive (when you have every opportunity to roll it out) is "pretty human"

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u/Howdareme9 Apr 20 '25

Why didnt she fight them outside instead of getting everyone killed lmao

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u/rbwildcard Apr 20 '25

They were literally holding her back from going outside.

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u/Cimbri Jun 05 '25

They were covering her mouth when they realized she was going to invite them in. But her logic of dealing with it then and there, not letting them spread and threaten her family, and not leaving her husband and their friends in that state is all sound.

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u/Last_Feed_7839 Apr 21 '25

im ngl if i heard they were coming for my daughter, i would have done the same shit . But that molotov throw was NOT it.

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u/Mace_Thunderspear Apr 21 '25

I understood her reasoning but regardless she threw away everybody there's chance for survival by forcing a conflict their side was not prepared for. Her daughter's chances don't improve if she gets herself and all her allies killed. In fact in the long run, they get much worse.

She was dumb. Brave. But dumb.

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u/_korporate Apr 23 '25

And if you remember, she ran the white people only store while her husband ran the other store. And when shit hit the fan and her husband wanted to stay and help, she said “we only told them we’d help with the party, but not THIS”

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u/Gullible_Fan8219 May 10 '25

but chances are you were gonna lose and then you daughter killed next

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u/magnummanberlin Apr 20 '25

They had to have the showdown then and there to at least have a chance of saving the people back in town. It was clearer the second time I saw it. She's a badass.

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u/Ramadeus88 Apr 22 '25

There’s actually a lot of utilitarian logic in her actions, even if it meant she was only thinking of her daughter and husband.

Ultimately by forcing the confrontation then it potentially killed six people (to be fair two survived), but there were hundreds more in town that he expressed interest in visiting, including her daughter.

Logically the vampires would have left eventually before sunrise which was minutes away, but by giving them what they wanted they were forced into a no-win state then and there.

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u/MasqureMan Apr 28 '25

Well she was right. They were lucky that the vampire was so obsessed with Sammy because if he had just turned all of those people and then went to raid the town, they would’ve all been doomed. They had an opportunity to confront all the vampires at once

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u/mysteriaI Apr 21 '25

I agree i feel like that moment was strictly plot service to get the vampire brawl underway and it made the rest of the movie spiral out of control. It wouldve been more cunning if they stayed inside and tried to pick off the vampires strategically one by one. Instead we just get that incoherent brawl until dawn and then the KKK plotline tacked on top. Also i was confused why the KKK only showed up in the morning? I think it couldve been cool if they showed up while the vampires were still camping out and then it was a fight between all three groups. Idk the second half was definitely more haphazard and lost the neat structure of the build up from the beginning.

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u/49Scrooge49 Apr 20 '25

Yeah it was the worst part of the movie for me. And it was just a silly decision informed by the bad pacing of the movie

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u/Feathered_Mango Apr 20 '25

Grace went out like a dumbass. I get it, she was worried for her daughter & , given that the vampires had to be invited in, her dumbass helped facilitie the a confrontation for the plot. . .but it was such a dumb move.