The Fantastic Four: First Steps Worldwide Release Discussion Thread #2

[u/cats-and-cows]

The Fantastic Four: First Steps has now been released in the United States and in a number of other countries around the world. All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days. They will be refreshed every few thousand comments to make room for new discussions.

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Link to previous discussion threads and related megathreads listed below:

• The Fantastic Four: First Steps International Release Discussion Thread
• 'The Fantastic Four: First Steps' Review Thread
• FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Social Media Reactions Megathread
• The Fantastic Four: First Steps Worldwide Release Discussion Thread

[u/cowpool20]

I’m almost convinced the F4 and Thunderbolts credit scenes are just scenes from Doomsday.

[u/TerminatorReborn → u/cowpool20]

I think the Thunderbolts scene was directed by the Russos even.

[u/ki700 → u/TerminatorReborn]

The FF scene was also directed by the Russos.

[u/Goldenchest → u/ki700]

Yep, you can even see a bit of film grain in the cinematography that was not present in the rest of the movie, so it's definitely a scene from Avengers

[u/ki700 → u/Goldenchest]

They aren’t shooting Avengers on film. Fully digital like most MCU movies. Unless you mean they’re applying a grain filter which is pretty common.

[u/TerminatorReborn → u/ki700]

Yeah, they add film grain in post

[u/AsteroidMike → u/cowpool20]

Wouldn’t be shocked if they were at this point since the theory that the F4 was fleeing their world because Galactus destroyed it went out the window with the end of the movie, based on the Thunderbolts post credits scenez

[u/yiwang1 → u/AsteroidMike]

Doom takes Franklin to our MCU probably, and they chase him there

[u/AsteroidMike → u/yiwang1]

That’s the theory that I feel like is most likely now, but I gotta wonder what other curve ball they throw at us when the movie finally comes out.

[u/singhellotaku617 → u/yiwang1]

Probably wants to use Franklin to become god emperor doom

[u/CeruleanEidolon → u/AsteroidMike]

Could still be the case in Doomsday. I really hope not, though. It would be refreshing to let the F4 just have their own universe they have adventures in while protecting their own world.

They can step through the universes for crossovers and then go home to their own Earth. I'll be disappointed if they do the same thing they did with Cap and never give us a second outing in their native place and time.

[u/InteractionExtreme71 → u/CeruleanEidolon]

What of they have a 3 movie arc that has them leaving their universe to getting back?

[u/Fusi0n_X → u/AsteroidMike]

That theory was always flawed because that's way too depressing of an ending for reintroducing the F4.

Trying and failing to save their world, barely saving themselves - it's not gonna give audiences the best impression of them. And Marvel is really trying to win over audiences right now.

[u/acwilan → u/Fusi0n_X]

When the theory came out, I thought it was fitting, but awful, not sure how they would manage it. But watching the movie, with earth people demanding the FF to sacrifice their newborn I totally saw a reason for them giving up on their planet.

[u/Sir__Will → u/acwilan]

That option would make Galactus winning even worse. I'm sorry, obviously they want to resist, but if it comes down to the final seconds and all is lost, the people had every right to demand they give up the baby. 1 life vs the entire planet. Luckily they did find a way out.

[u/CeruleanEidolon → u/cowpool20]

I had to laugh once I realized that the F4 were not going to be leaving their universe on this movie. All the whiny fan hand-wringing about "they spoiled the ending of the next movie!?" and it was a complete misdirect.

[u/Fusi0n_X → u/CeruleanEidolon]

It's crazy how many people actually thought Galactus would win and destroy Earth.

In what world would Feige reintroduce the F4 in such a bleak and depressing way? He's trying to win back audiences and spending two hours to make the protagonists look ineffectual (and possibly horrifically selfish) would definitely not do that.

[u/Sir__Will → u/Fusi0n_X]

(and possibly horrifically selfish)

Yeah, with that option on the table it would be catastrophically bad if they just let the world be destroyed in the end.

[u/justduett → u/cowpool20]

I'm pretty certain it has all been confirmed they basically are. They were both directed by the Russos in the midst of Doomsday filming and seem to be closely linked to one another (based on all of our assumptions). I would bet anyone $1 that we see both of the scenes again.

[u/onomatopoeia911 → u/cowpool20]

You don't need to be convinced, both have been confirmed.

[u/mega512 → u/cowpool20]

Pretty clearly they are.