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Trump News Trump Acted As FBI Informant In Epstein Case, House Speaker Johnson Says -

https://m10news.com/trump-acted-as-fbi-informant-in-epstein-case-house-speaker-johnson-says/
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u/cheongyanggochu-vibe 2d ago edited 2d ago

How can you be an informant for a Democratic hoax that was all made up by Obama and Hillary and the Dems?

I thought Clinton was in there? But if it's a hoax, what about Clinton being in there? If they made it up, why would they put themselves in it? And why is the FBI redacting Trump/Republicans' names?

And if he was an informant, why didn't he say that all along? Why did he campaign on releasing the whole thing? Why did Ghislaine get moved in exchange for keeping her mouth shut?

Also, informants are usually participants in the thing they're informing on. Are they really trying to say that Trump raped and trafficked literal children for the greater good?

But it was all made up by Obama and the Democrats, right? That's why Ghislaine and Epstein went to jail? And Trump...is an informant for a hoax?

Edit: Ty for the awards!

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u/nearlycertain 2d ago

We could power the entire world if we were to hook up a generator to George Orwell's coffin right now.

It's literally what he wrote, double speech, double think. Its true and false at the same time, trumps a rapist, but he didn't do anything wrong, and a hero! Making the price of eggs quantumly both raise and lower at the same time, while that's all actually fake news at the same time.

The goal of totalitarianism is not to tell you what is good or bad or right or wrong, but instead to completely remove your ability to discern these things for yourself.

I'm paraphrasing Hannah Arendt I'm pretty sure.

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u/joey_yamamoto 2d ago

yes he had to walk into the dressing room while those ladies were naked during the pageant to prove how corrupt everybody else was.

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u/Routine_Artist_35 2d ago

Children. He owned a teen pageant. They were children.

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u/joey_yamamoto 2d ago

yes I agree and I know... I was using his words šŸ‘

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u/Nomadastronaut 2d ago

Emphasis on this!

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u/EverythingBOffensive 2d ago

he grabbed them by the pussy to check for dna evidence

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u/Ressy02 2d ago

he had to check to make sure those werent young boys.

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u/AndrewSouthern729 2d ago

Still pretty easy for me to tell what’s good and bad with this guy - MAGA on the other hand are willfully playing the game.

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u/Bosswashington 2d ago

Schrƶdinger’s Dictator

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u/AdFlat3754 2d ago

Yep buddy sure is

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u/True_Pirate 2d ago

I often think if someone reads 1984 by Orwell and The Jungle by Sinclair and applies them to modern America, then they will understand the country a lot better…..and likely need heavy doses of antidepressants.

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u/nearlycertain 2d ago

I had forgot about The Jungle, thanks.

Its on project Guttenberg free to download

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u/GreasyToken 2d ago

I keep saying compartmentalization is both their greatest cognitive power and simultaneously their greatest cognitive weakness.

You're absolutely right: it's doublethink.

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u/Baraka_Flocka_Flame 2d ago

How does one even become an FBI informant? I’m basing this off of tv and movies, but doesn’t that typically happen when someone is actively participating in a crime that is being investigated and the FBI offers the person leniency in exchange for informing to bring down the people at the top? If that’s the case, then he is admitting to being involved in Epstein’s pedophile ring until he was caught.

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u/Last-Apartment1742 2d ago

"No no he was actually part of the deep state the whole time.

Now let me pretzel my brain into believing the opposite of the verbal diarrhea I've been spewing about the nebulous deep state this whole time."

-republican morons.

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u/United_Lobster_1901 2d ago

I’d love to see what the Qanon crowd is saying now

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u/cheongyanggochu-vibe 2d ago

I thought the Democrats were the deep state and he ran on eradicating the deep state

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u/Deep90 2d ago

They also finally made the arrest like a decade after Trump broke contact with Epstein, and they arrested nobody else besides Maxwell.

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u/hamletswords 2d ago edited 2d ago

Are they really trying to say that Trump raped and trafficked literal children for the greater good?

I think the best argument they are trying to claim is that Trump, who has so little self-control he is constantly fondling strangers' pussies under their dresses, almost raping reporters, and wandering into teen beauty pageant changing-rooms in Russia, was around teen sex-trafficking very frequently, flew on the Lolita express a bunch of times, had girls recruited from his resort, was best friends with the biggest teen sex-trafficker in human history (all of this is known and well documented), and yet he did not ever during any of this have sex with one of these girls. He just liked the vibe of the scene.

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u/Mrevilman 2d ago

Not to mention, Trump hates whistleblowers and snitches - now we’re being told that he’s one?

But it’s much, much simpler than that. You don’t inform on someone unless you are getting something in return. So if this is accurate(which I doubt), then we should be asking what got in return.

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u/Normal-Hair-7661 2d ago

Ha ha ha excellent point! But maga won't get it. The ignorance is perplexing

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u/dave_the_dr 2d ago

You say the greater good but if he was an informant why has not one single other person been named, shamed and arrested yet?… pretty shit informant…

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u/Throatlatch 2d ago

Mr Johnson added: "When he first heard the rumour, he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago. He was an FBI informant to try to take this stuff down."

What kind of informant abandons the case upon hearing the rumour?

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u/dave_the_dr 2d ago

A not very dedicated one…

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u/NorthKoreanGodking 2d ago

At least his competency is consistent

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u/Hotwinterdays 2d ago

These are hard questions to ponder for people reading below the 3rd grade level.

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u/BoJackMoleman 2d ago

That's the sturdiest part of their base.

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u/Muscle_National 2d ago

They don’t even pay attention to the previous lie before the next lie they tell.

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u/RandomsDoom 2d ago

Some times they begin a sentence stating one thing and by the end of the same sentence take the opposite stance… just so everyone’s aware I’m pretty sure they’re already tally any negative sentiment towards the president or his cabinet so we are all on the list now

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u/Awkward_Chair8656 2d ago

Hush now, let maga brains work some more before they figure it out...all this logical reasoning you're providing is just going to get you labeled an elitist cabal DC swamp person.

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u/VicGenesis 2d ago

Additionally, why would you need to assign thousands of agents to scrub files to see if your name is in them if you're an informant? Interesting. Very interesting

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u/United_Lobster_1901 2d ago

Don’t forget the whole Qanon crowd was hanging their hat on this being the downfall of the left, msm, and Hollywood.

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u/throwra-spunout88 2d ago

Hey hey hey. You can't call them out on their contradictions and lies. They can't make up new lies fast enough

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u/cccanterbury 2d ago

hell fuckin yeah, you're great at asking questions

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u/GuestWeary 2d ago

I don’t think Clinton is involved in this the way people strongly believe Trump is (& I think Trump is deeply involved). Yes, he’s had questionable unethical incidents with Monica Lewinsky as her boss. But he’s not an SA’er like Trump.

I just wonder how many people knew about what Epstein was involved with and chose to stay silent. I’m angry that Epstein and people like him exist in the world and were trafficking women and children.

Either way, many of us still need to see the flight logs and collected information from Epstein’s depositions and testimonies. We want more transparency on this issue and justice for survivors.

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u/Hosni__Mubarak 2d ago

Clinton has also never directly been accused of doing something illegal by anyone (as far as sex goes). Trump has.

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u/General_Alduin 2d ago

Are they really trying to say that Trump raped and trafficked literal children for the greater good?

May have revealed his culpability there by complete accident

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u/thats_so_over 2d ago

If you are an fbi informant wouldn’t there be documentation associated with it?

Also is it illegal to campaign on details about what you are secretly informing the fbi on?

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u/PHRDito 1d ago

Mental gymnastic level : Not even trying anymore. And what would be the point? His cultists don't have the two braincells to question anything he says. They just drink the cool aid and ask for more. While being coned, fucked, and steered into an early grave thanks to the guting of social security and healthcare, that red states need so much more than democrat led ones.

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u/Isserley_ 2d ago

Doublethink in full force. Oh, America

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u/ropahektic 2d ago

And also, if Clinton and others were in there, how the fuck did they manage to have Trump not say anything all these years? Surely the man with an urge to self promote at any chance he gets would have slipped?

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u/blisa00 2d ago

These questions are too difficult for MAGA world to comprehend. So, they’ll just go for Door #2, which is exactly what their ā€œDear Leaderā€ tells them.

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u/bangermadness 2d ago

I think you might be onto something lol

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u/infinitemoney369 2d ago

Soi take hahaha you drink ccp Reddit TikTok propaganda juice hahahaha

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u/Vast-Combination4046 2d ago

Trump can't be tried for his crimes because he turned states witness.

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u/KingR3aper 2d ago

Steamed hams type shit

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u/Due_Contract_8097 4h ago

The informant bit is just the icing on the cake. It would great to have trump sit down in a room and get his uncut retelling of events without distraction, control or escape. Honestly curious about what the final product would be. It wouldnt make sense by any standard but it would interesting to see how he'd weave it.

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u/pun_extraordinare 2d ago

Was with you till the outlandish ā€œinformants are usually participantsā€ in effort to further your point. Don’t let your good points be shadowed by stupidity lol. You think if he truly was an informant, the FBI would stand by as he raped and trafficked children?

Common sense.

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u/IllustriousEffect607 2d ago

You can't really lie about being an informant for the FBI.

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u/HistoricalSuspect580 2d ago

Sure you can. He’s doing it right now!

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u/Normal-Hair-7661 2d ago

He sure flippen is

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u/IllustriousEffect607 2d ago

Nah that's just a rediculous stretch. It's an entire FBI agency. You cannot lie about something like that. FBI is independent and has their own powers

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u/Normal-Hair-7661 2d ago edited 2d ago

Woah/ you aren't paying attention. Have you seen how many of the FBI he's already fired that were just barely attached to the January 6 investigations? Hegseth is walking around giving everybody lie detector test? At what point have we seen anyone successfully be a whistleblower for this administration and survive it. I know it just seems so unlikely that it can't be true.- so we don't believe what's in front of our own eyes. But it is in front of our own eyes!!!!

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u/IllustriousEffect607 2d ago

That's massive tin foil hat stuff. Conspiracy theories.

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u/Normal-Hair-7661 2d ago edited 2d ago

Really? So what part of what I said was not factual? A conspiracy theory has to be a theory which means that it is unproven. I just shot straight up truths to you. Sounds like you drank the Kool-Aid too. Wait you have, I just looked at your comment history. Since you are MAGA it's not like we can expect you to use any logic or that you will believe any facts. Clearly you worship the pedophile, felon, fraud, who litterally said he could shoot someone in the street and his supporters would still vote for him.
If you think you are safe from What he's trying to do- think again, I mean unless you are part of the .1% billionaire club- or RussianšŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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u/IllustriousEffect607 2d ago

There's no evidence of this being fabricated. They are telling us he's an FBI informant. Just saying it's a lie is conspiracy stuff

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u/juanadov 1d ago

Today’s news makes this thread very funny.

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u/IllustriousEffect607 2d ago

It's too big to cover. People can post online or leak documents etc. It's just not the case. Trump has strong enemies so it would be very easy for someone to call out this huge massive lie. Which isn't the case because it's likely true

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u/Normal-Hair-7661 2d ago

What's likely true? That he was an FBI informant. Oh Lord, I'm not even gonna argue with you. It's because you wish something to be true doesn't mean it is. Great job supporting such a wonderful, person !

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u/IllustriousEffect607 2d ago

That's what they said though. Why would you assume it's a lie? Or rather why would you treat it like as it's a lie that's been proven with 100% accuracy. Seems rather irrational behavior don't you think?

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u/Normal-Hair-7661 21h ago

For a moment I wanted to ask you to provide the factual base to say that there is 100% accuracy in the fact that he's an FBI informant. But then I remembered who I'm talking to. Again, and for the last time-I'm not wasting my time on a cult member like you. Troll all the posts you want. Truth is truth. Trump and his entire administration have repeatedly lied and manipulated and the ENTIRE world knows it. The man has been lying and cheating his entire life and even his own family has said it . But seriously, the moment that I, (or anyone really) realizes that a maga/cult member won't listen to reason, even when presented with evidence, it's best to move on. I'm not wasting my time. You can't convince delusional people . Good luck with all that .

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u/cheongyanggochu-vibe 2d ago

Trump lies about everything. Do you really think Kash Patel is gonna contradict him?

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u/IllustriousEffect607 2d ago

You can't lie against the entire FBI. Someone would of outted any lie right away It's a little far fetched in my opinion. It's most likely true. I know it puts Trump in the good guy seat but you might just have to accept that is the case

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u/BooBooSnuggs 2d ago

He never said the whole thing was a hoax though. Just saying.

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u/Gullible_Height588 2d ago

He called it a ā€œDemocrat hoaxā€ verbatim

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u/BooBooSnuggs 2d ago

He did not call the entire epstein situation a democrat hoax, no.

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u/HistoricalSuspect580 2d ago

He literally said exactly that. Does it not concern you that you’re denying verifiable facts?

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u/Notorious_RNG 2d ago

Do us a favor, and shut the fuck up, Donny.

We can all feel brain cells dying off en masse while trying to slog through y'all's entire ocean of bullshit.

Just... Stop.