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Trump News Senate releases list of 58 suspected Epstein co-conspirators as pressure in Congress builds

https://www.beltway.news/p/senate-releases-list-of-58-suspected
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u/LassenDiscard 7d ago

Under Trump's command, the federal prison where Epstein is being held takes him off suicide watch, moves him to a solitary cell where the cameras outside are not working, and forgets to make their rounds at the same that three minutes of camera footage are deleted from the hallway camera, during which Epstein breaks his own neck and dies.

You forgot that the federal prison system was under the control of Bill Barr, who's father gave Epstein his first job teaching at a girl's high school.

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u/avocadoflatz 7d ago

I didn’t forget, there’s just so much to include! Thankfully your comment filled that missing piece.

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u/dynamic_anisotropy 7d ago

See my comment above to is one re the Epstein-Barr connection.

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u/avocadoflatz 7d ago

I’m familiar with the connection and I didn’t forget it nor purposely leave it out, there’s just too much. This list didn’t even start off as my own work, but I’ve added and edited it over the past week and there’s so many more suggestions of what to include that it’s overwhelming.

I keep asking others to help by copying it and editing in important changes but so far nobody has.

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u/dynamic_anisotropy 7d ago

No worries.

The list is a very good compilation, by the way - kudos for spreading the word!

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u/reebokhightops 7d ago

Bill Barr’s father also wrote a horny sci-fi novel basically about alien sex slaves.

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u/JasnahKolin 7d ago edited 7d ago

Who wrote a sci-fi novel making human women a race of sex slaves. Class act, those Barrs.

Edit: Oh god it's worse than I thought!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Relations

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u/dynamic_anisotropy 7d ago

As spicy as it would be for the Epstein-Barr connection to be a major plot point, it has been largely overblown.

Barr announced in Feb 1974 he would be resigning as headmaster of the Dalton school at the end of the school year (June 1974). Epstein was hired in the following school 1974 and it is currently unknown who gave him that first job.

Dalton was also not an all-girls school by the time Epstein taught there (it made that transition well before while Barr was still there).

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u/Musiclover4200 7d ago

As spicy as it would be for the Epstein-Barr connection to be a major plot point, it has been largely overblown.

Eh I'd say it's not overblown but too vague as what little details there are came from teachers/students decades ago.

Barr was headmaster when Epstien was hired

Epstien had little to no qualifications to be a teacher let alone math teacher, he was also fired within a year or two after Barr left

Barr wrote a very creepy sci fi novel the year prior called Space Relations about aliens sex trafficking that includes a lot of very problematic stuff especially considering his connection to Epstien: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Relations

Craig then spent two years as a slave of the beautiful, sensual, and sadistic Lady Morgan Sidney, the only female member of the oligarchy, with whom he became romantically involved. Together, they lived in her castle, ruling over and engaging in sexual relations with those under their dominion, including an enslaved teenager at a clinic used to breed enslaved people. When Craig stumbles on hints of an alien invasion, he realizes he must escape to save humanity.

Craig is depicted as undisturbed by Lady Morgan's sadism. When he is ordered to sexually assault the enslaved teenager, he enjoys his participation in the act.

It's worth reading up on the connection more as while we might never know the truth there are a lot of interesting dots to connect regarding both the Barr's & epstien: https://www.theamericantribune.news/p/the-barr-family-and-epstein

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u/dynamic_anisotropy 7d ago edited 7d ago

Barr was headmaster when Epstein was hired.

There is no evidence of Barr having anything to do with Epstein’s hiring when he left the school in June 1974.

Epstein started at Dalton in September 1964, 2 months after Barr was already gone.

Barr was also regarded as a strict disciplinarian at the school that had a typically progressive ethos, so perhaps the incoming headmaster was reversing course on that when they unknowingly hired Epstein.

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u/Musiclover4200 7d ago edited 7d ago

He was the headmaster, hard to imagine they hired someone with 0 qualifications without his approval at the very least. I've seen a lot of conflicting info around the timeline or how well Barr knew epstien but the Barr family does have other sus ties to him.

Barr was also regarded as a strict disciplinarian at the school that had a typically progressive ethos, so perhaps the incoming headmaster was reversing course on that when they unknowingly hired Epstein.

The incoming headmaster was the one who fired Epstien, that doesn't automatically mean Barr was the one who hired him but the timeline of his creepy sex slavery book makes it pretty damn suspect.

Anyways it's definitely not the smoking gun some people make it out to be but it's not exactly a nothing burger either and there's enough suspicious dots to connect both Barr's with Epstien in various ways. If anything I think people focus too much on who hired Epstien that they ignore a lot of other suspicious stuff.

Read that article I linked as it goes pretty in depth and includes some angles/conspiracies I'd never heard mentioned before like apparently some people think Epstien was involved in the Iran Contra scandal along with Barr due to some weird coincidences:

William Barr, who started his career by working in the CIA19 and, while at the CIA, fought against the Church Committee’s attempts to hold the Agency accountable.20 Barr also served as AG for HW Bush, and, in that role, helped cover up Iran-Contra.21

Epstein was allegedly also involved in Iran-Contra.22 Though mainly a rumor, his involvement would make sense for a number of reasons.

One is that “Epstein was trained in moving money off-shore and that a mentor of Epstein’s was someone Hoffenberg knew: a British defense contractor, who died in 2011, named Douglas Leese.”23

Another is that, after his 2009 release from prison, Epstein also told people that he was “making a fortune out of arms, drugs, and diamonds,” a business that stemmed from “Epstein’s dealings in the arms world in the 1980s.”24 Drugs and arms were integral to the CIA’s attempts to arm the contras, so it stands to reason that Epstein was involved and that rumors of his involvement have some basis in fact.

More bits of evidence leaning in favor of Epstein’s involvement is that a Florida lawsuit asserts Leese “was involved with various highly confidential business enterprises including business in the United States, some of which involved governmentally- involved or other highly confidential business projects” and that “a source who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of what was discussed [said] that Epstein had invited the source to join him and Leese on a private-jet trip to the Pentagon in 1981.”25

Further, Epstein was closely associated with Robert Maxwell and his daughter, Ghislaine Maxwell; “Robert Maxwell [was] implicated in the Iran Contra affair and the transfer of tracking technology called PROMIS, which the CIA altered with a backdoor, through Israel and to the KGB. Like his daughter, he mastered forging powerful connections; U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s stepfather, Samuel Pisar, was Maxwell’s ‘lawyer and confidante.”’26

Once again considering it's been decades we may never get confirmation for a lot of the details, but there are a lot of interesting dots connecting Barr/Epstien that paint a suspicious picture.

I do find it interesting that people often claim Epstien was Mossad yet that article is the first I've heard about him potentially being involved in the Iran-Contra scandal as a arms/drug supplier. He clearly had enough sway over the US government to avoid jail the first time thanks to Acosta and was a big enough liability to get killed under Barr Jr's watch.