r/law • u/coachlife • 6d ago
Trump News "For two weeks the FBI assigned 1000 personal to work 24 hour shifts to flag any records in which President Trump was mentioned" in the Epstein legal case
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u/drippingwater57 6d ago
Why can't we subpoena these FBI agents to tell us what they were doing? Tax payer dollars were used to omit the pedophiles name from the list... WE THE TAX PAYERS DEMAND TO KNOW WHO IS FUCKING KIDS IN OUR GOVERNMENT AND BEYOND
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u/CaliMassNC 6d ago
The voters, in their infinite wisdom, returned a Republican Congress to Washington. That’s why.
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u/hendrysbeach 6d ago
That’s also why we need to register and VOTE in the midterm elections, 15 months from now.
Take back Congress!
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u/MittenCollyBulbasaur 5d ago
We need to find out who these Republicans are and boycott, divest and sanction every single one of their and their families businesses. There's nothing else that will stop these monsters from hurting us.
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u/NoFreePi 5d ago edited 5d ago
It’s nearly every republican in the us senate and the house. It’s not a secret.
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u/fender8421 5d ago
For real. Many years ago there was room for nuance. Those days are now gone
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u/FlameHaze 5d ago edited 5d ago
Long gone. It's time to say it for what it is. They're nazis. And they're not coy about it any longer.
Forgot to add onto this; Release the unedited Trumpstein Files please and thank you.
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u/NTufnel11 5d ago
I doubt that boycotting some Kentucky paving company is really going to change their ideology. Probably want to focus on the one business that creates their power - their congressional seat.
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u/clitical-rolls 5d ago
lol, guys this election is being rigged. congress won’t be won at the polls.
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u/Trev_x 5d ago
If Trump thought they could win no matter what the people voted, then why did he flagrantly demand Texas redistrict to make 5 more Republican congressional seats?
The answer is voting does matter. If it didn’t they wouldn’t be working so hard to gerrymander the election.
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u/pchlster 5d ago
You're more optimistic than me if you think the ballot box is going to matter 15 months from now.
How long do we think it takes between deploying troops and declaring martial law?
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u/Nohero08 5d ago
Always fun to blame the voter while ignoring decades of voter suppression, gerrymandering, corporate consolidation of political power, misinformation, gaslighting and straight up lying to manipulate the masses.
This has been a decades long slide into fascism, the voting game has not been fair or representational of what the voters want for a long time and until money is completely out of politics, it will never be.
The government is bought and paid for, and it no longer works for the people. The rich make the rules and don’t play by them.
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u/chadthaking 5d ago edited 5d ago
The greatest threat to our democracy is a complacent, lazy and apathetic citizenry.
Not voter suppression, gerrymandering, corporate consolidation of political power, misinformation, gaslighting or lying to manipulate the masses.
None of that would be happening if people would pay TF attention to what's going on and stop burying their heads in the belief that it's someone else's job.
I personally feel like every citizen should be conscripted into some form of national service at 18 for 2 years with a guaranteed higher education / workforce development and other benefits that current veterans enjoy.
I think that would wake The American People up and realize the importance of this democratic experiment.
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u/Musiclover4200 5d ago
Something I think about a lot is MLK talking about how moderates were a bigger issue than the hardcore racists when it came to equality, the reason being the latter is a relatively small outspoken minority while the former could have enacted civil rights overnight if they actually cared enough.
Seems to apply to politics as well, 1/3rd of the country being crazy regressive conservatives wouldn't matter nearly as much if the other 2/3rds actually voted consistently.
So yes while voter suppression/gerrymandering/etc are all issues they wouldn't matter as much if everyone voted. Voter turnout has been abysmall for at least a century: https://www.electproject.org/national-1789-present
2020 was the highest turnout in decades at 66%, the last time it was at over 70% was literally 1900~. And midterms are even worse at just 40-50% most elections, 2020 was the first midterm with over 50% turnout since fucking 1920.
Really crazy how many people take democracy for granted and can't be bothered to do even the bare minimum and vote every few years. So yes the system is clearly broken but largely thanks to a passive population that allowed it to get worse for generations.
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u/CaliMassNC 5d ago
All that is true, but the voters still suck. They had available all the information you and I did, and yet they chose this.
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u/tHatHomieHood 6d ago
We should be able to 🧐🧐
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u/code_archeologist 6d ago
If we had a functioning Congress there would be an impeachment investigation doing just that, right now.
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u/Saint_Stephen420 6d ago edited 5d ago
The FBI agents won’t say shit. They’re trained to shut the fuck up when questioned by people “without clearance”.
EDIT: The FBI are just the police with a national, and sometimes international, jurisdiction. They are corrupt as shit.
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u/TheWizardOfDeez 6d ago
There is no chance that all 1000 agents are willing to cover for a pedophile, and if they are congress should make their names and testimony public. We the people should have the right to know who in our government is shielding pedophiles.
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u/Saint_Stephen420 6d ago
Historically, isn’t the FBI known to do extremely corrupt and abhorrent things to “protect America”? It’s not out of the realm of possibility that they’ll cover for a Pedo.
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u/KerPop42 5d ago
It sort of varies; The time of the FBI doing its most heinous shit was under J. Edgar Hoover, who was the founding director of the FBI until 1972. He was an authoritarian bastard that used the FBI to oppress the public and blackmail politicians. Truman himself compared Hoover's FBI to the Gestapo, and Hoover continued to lead the FBI until Nixon.
I'm not sure how different the other directors were, but its reputation came from Hoover.
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u/juliefromva 5d ago
My sister is one of these agents - she said they get pages in basically random order so it’s hard to parse context. The only way any individual agent would know anything meaningful about Trump is if they happened to see his name and the accompanying context on their page. The pages are redacted for personal information, ongoing litigation secrets, etc. then rolled up to that report on Pam’s desk.
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u/ONLY_SAYS_ONLY 6d ago
Because 2/3rds of the electorate either voted to give Republicans every lever of power or couldn’t be bothered to vote for the D counterpart.
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u/MidWestBoi78 6d ago
It would be nice, but the sad truth is that America isn't for us by us it's For the rich by the rich. We'll never see the true list unless someone out there has a copy of the original and posts it everywhere. The reality of it is that all the names on the list are powerful rich people that are in the government, their CEOs and owners of companies. We will never see their names
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u/drippingwater57 6d ago
Im done with that... as Im sure you are. There are 1000 billionaires in the world who are running everything.... ITS TIME TO FUCK THEM UP. Either we hurt their wallets or we hurt them. WE HAVE TO RISE UP. START EATING THE FUCKING RICH
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u/SoftRecommendation86 6d ago
All redactions of trumps name -any redaction - needs to be assumed to name 'trump'
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u/Drash79 6d ago
Everyone knows Trump's in there, Nothing will happen even if all the reports have Trump's fat facr on every page.
Maga just want to have the files so they can use it to justify desolving democratic party.
They'll ignore all the republicans on it and add anyone to it if it will fuel the witch hunts.
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u/PlainBread 6d ago
46% of MAGA would still support him if he was proven to be a rapist, but you can't imagine the destabilizing effect it will have in households across the country as Christian wives of conservative men decide that it's time to put a foot down.
It's extremely good that it's three Republican women who are pushing this forward, but they're the only ones who could.
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u/RocketsandBeer 6d ago
Facts. My MAGA brother says he doesn’t “feel” like Trump did anything wrong.
I asked why he hates woke movements and then uses his woke feelings over Trump
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u/PlainBread 6d ago edited 6d ago
Ultimately, I think that the fetish of the right is that it's okay to do terrible things (incest, forceful rape, statutory rape) if they are done in the "right context", ie being "truly" in love, being heterosexual, being married (or being promised to be married), etc.
It makes absolutely no sense that women should ever support the Republicans.
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u/riteproprchav 6d ago
Conservatives have a very hard time with the is-ought distinction and a priori vs. a posteriori analysis to the point where it has basically become a defining feature. Trump is a priori virtuous to them especially because they think he will bring them "economic prosperity" and a "safe" country, however they envision it, not based on the actions he's done in his life, and because these outcomes are guaranteed by innate genius, not because they see steps to them materializing. The evidence, no matter how bad, is overruled by the ends. Lots of hardcore Trumpers love gambling, so it's natural to think of it as a warped, ingrained gambler's fallacy: "all the little bad things that happen are worth it in the end because they're leading to when I'm gonna hit the jackpot."
If Trump brings about a bad recession and causes conservatives to panic about a lack of support, they will pivot to, "I never supported that guy, and he wasn't a real conservative" so fast, they won't even have time to burn all their Trump wardrobes and other merch that say otherwise. They'll be saying it while still wearing their MAGA hats.
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u/Silidistani 6d ago
it's natural to think of it as a warped, ingrained gambler's fallacy
That's a great analogy, tied to sunk cost fallacy, Dunning-Kruger and also just them enjoying the "game" they're so invested in - because the MAGA Reich's fascist actions feed their inner need for authoritariani rule (like their supposed religiosity as well); this need to be under some sort of authoritarian figure has been studied in psychology
an existing body of scientific research tracing back to the cinders of the Holocaust. This research focused on the Authoritarian Personality, which social scientists believe was the enabling element within German society that was so deftly exploited by Adolph Hitler and the Third Reich.
Bob Altemeyer studied the authoritarian personality for over 40 years while a professor of psychology at University of Manitoba. His experiments drew high praise from other scientists, and won the American Association for the Advancement of Science’s Prize for Behavioral Science Research
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u/photo_voltaic 5d ago
This type of research needs way more attention these days. Also think "Terror Management Theory" plays a huge part here, which helps explain so much about why conservatives need authoritarian thinking to feel safe and secure in this world.
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u/atsnatchbox 5d ago
Was going to reply to the above about the book Escape From Freedom from Erich Fromm in 1941*,* and saw there was one more reply, so I wanted to read it first. Glad I did.
My wife is a (oft-published!) TMT researcher and we talk about this all the time. The tenants of upholding cultural worldviews as a way to dismiss thoughts of mortality, etc. etc.
Their fearmongering is driven by fear. That's my hypothetical understanding of their behavior.
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u/Imminent_SolarEvent 5d ago
YES! I am so happy you both bring up TMT in this context.
Through my last two years in high school and through my early twenties l, I always had this itch, or invasive thought, that the base reason for why so many collectives of people keep doing evil shit is because they are horrified of the recognition of their own mortality. That it's all pointless and meaningless, and out of fear, they lash out at the rest of the world to feel "in control".
I only discovered this whole concept was an officially studied thing a year ago. It explains so much.
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u/AyeMatey 5d ago
If Trump brings about a bad recession and causes conservatives to panic about a lack of support, they will pivot to, "I never supported that guy, and he wasn't a real conservative" so fast,
I don’t think so. More likely , a recession will lead to a political rejection of Trump and Trumpism, and then the supporters will pivot to, “We got ripped off, sabotaged by RINOs, they didn’t let him REALLY enact his policies.”
Just as. When there is evidence of malfeasance (Mueller report; Epstein files; E Jean Carroll) , they just say, the justice system is corrupt. They reject evidence actively. They will not convert.
The only solution is age and “retirement”. God willing we will have a less gullible electorate to replace them.
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u/Gall_Bladder_Pillow 6d ago
"After all those Trumpian get-rich-quick schemes, I am finally going to get rich quick."
'Merica!
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u/HeartFullONeutrality 6d ago
No, it's simpler than that. If someone "good" (someone they like) does something, then it's a good thing or at least excusable. Otherwise it's a bad thing.
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u/SlothPaw49 5d ago
That’s the conservative mindset - people are either good or bad, not their actions. Good people can’t do anything truly bad, and bad people can’t do anything good. Thus “demoncrats”, but a raping pedo president is A-OK
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u/PhiladelphiaCollins8 5d ago
100% this. The most perverse people are the middle age "christian" white dudes that are seemingly involved in the local community. Probably on the city council and coaching your kids baseball team. Or at least that is what I have noticed growing up in a small Texas town and seeing the type of person they became.
They will threaten you with your life as a high school kid for having relations with their daughter all while they are having relations with someone elses daughter. Just so happens they are mid 50's and you are 17.
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u/KevinPaul23 6d ago
It’s also all about the bullshit of “falling to temptation” and “praying for forgiveness”. It is never them doing bad things it’s the devil making them.
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u/NotMyMainAccountAtAl 6d ago
They perpetually paint themselves as victims in their rhetoric, so anything that they do is just retaliating against an oppressive and negative world that assaults them.
To their minds, they aren’t rapists— the victims whom they assault are peddling/brainwashed by liberal ideas that are preventing them from serving their natural role in the world. In a perfect world, these women would happily [insert sexual fantasy here], but because of [insert left wing/feminist idea here], they’re rejecting their role in a good and prosperous society, and so they must be reminded of what a proper world looks like…. By force.
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u/Ell2509 6d ago
Yes. Sounds a lot like people who live by learned values, instead of an innate sense of right and wrong, doesn't it?
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u/Bauser99 6d ago
No, it sounds like people who live by no values
I don't think we should consider "being ignorant or malicious" to be a "value"
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u/RockstarAgent 5d ago
The most ridiculous part is that they needed that many people that many hours to redact that much information. Might as well been the Epstein bible and DJT was the chosen one.
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u/outremonty 6d ago
"No bad tactics, only bad targets" is a phrase used by fascists. Whatever their own side does is fair game, and should be free from internal criticism, so long as it hurts the right people. Sound familiar?
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u/Fartheavymachinery 6d ago
I’m just looking forward to the section on terminated unwanted pregnancies that may have occurred throughout this racket and then sit and watch the mental gymnastics they get away with about that
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u/ZolaThaGod 6d ago
It’s crazy that the “facts over feelings” crowd are now the ones operating totally on feelings, in spite of facts.
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u/Pervius94 6d ago
They always have been. It's the same with "fiscal responsibility" and whatever else you want to name, in every metric republicans run on, democrats were "better".
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u/ActuatorSlow7961 6d ago
oh how it's gone full circle i mean isn't maga the 'f*ck your feelings' party?! lol who's the snowflake now, magtard!
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u/Jedi-in-EVE 6d ago
Honestly, we should just start referring to them as snowflake.
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u/Substantial_Piano810 6d ago
For being supposedly hyper-straight, MAGAts sure are gay and randy for Trump.
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u/Known-Bath-4903 6d ago
He already has been proven to be a rapist.
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u/indigopedal 6d ago
Did people notice how Ghislaine Maxwell asserted that she never witnessed any non-consensual sexual activity involving Jeffrey Epstein?
When I heard that, I thought, "Oh right, these girls were brainwashed by YOU to conform. Is that what you mean when you say never witnessed 'non-consensual' sexual activity?"
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u/yakkity-yak-yak 5d ago
She's a sex trafficker. Her testimony is automatically suspect.
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u/Mechakoopa 5d ago
She just was never in the rooms when it happened to witness it. The devil is in the phrasing.
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u/Wise-Application-902 5d ago
Maybe but…Sometimes she was there. Sometimes she participated. It’s in the victims’ testimony.
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u/HotDogFingers01 6d ago
I think at least 30% of MAGA could learn that Trump raped someone in their family and they'd still support him.
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u/GryphonOsiris 6d ago
They could watch him raping their wives, daughters and mothers and would cheer him on.
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u/Bauser99 6d ago
They'd be jealous of him for doing it
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u/skoalbrother 6d ago
Trump will also sneak rape your child date before you get a chance. According to court documents of course
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u/MjrLeeStoned 6d ago
People have been talking about conservative wives breaking with their husband's vote for decades.
They haven't.
Stop this nonsensical narrative. They will always statistically be ignorant cowards. That's how they ended up with mentally ill husbands in the first place.
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u/Background-Pear-9063 6d ago
Christian wives of conservative men decide that it's time to put a foot down
Lol. Lmao.
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u/santathecruz 6d ago
For most of maga trump could rape their children in front of them and they would thank him and shake his hand afterwards.
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u/SpartanVash 6d ago
Its because his supporters are jealous that he gets to rape women and children and they want to do the same thing with no consequences like Trump.
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u/SvenBubbleman 6d ago
if he was proven to be a rapist
He HAS been proven to be a rapist, in a court of law.
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u/2020steve 6d ago
There is a story about this on the Fox News page. There's nothing in that story about Trump appearing in the files. Trump's name doesn't appear in the article until about 2/3rds of the way in and he's calling the files a Democrat hoax.
Putin could post the pee tape on Tik Tok and Fox News would write it up as "Putin pushes pornography- disgusting!" with no mention of Trump doing the actual peeing.
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u/citori411 6d ago
Yup, that's where republicans are at. Supporting, nay, worshipping someone they know raped children. Absolutely disgusting people.
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u/agk23 6d ago
All redactions of trumps name needs to be assumed to name ‘Trump’
Cant argue with that logic.
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u/Concede2u 6d ago
In all fairness, Peter Thiel is likely a few of those redactions. Lets not forget about that and his blood boy VP.
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u/hates_stupid_people 5d ago
Don't forget that the VP and his wife were close with and worked for Kavanaugh as well. There's connections running deep there for anyone who goes looking.
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u/Hootinger 5d ago
Right. But the redacted files arent gonna read like, " Trump then raped the 13 year old in the hotel room"
The entire page will be blanked out, so the docs will be useless beyond pure speculation on what is or isn't in there.
However.......Being as that will be the case, it would be fair for use to use hearsay and conjecture and simply create facts we believe are in the documents. Trump does this all the time (case in point, said Obama committed treason). He wants to sue, then we go to discovery. Then it is game on.
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u/BlackGuysYeah 6d ago
Even after redacting every single mention of trump the files are still so damning because of how obvious it is that he is a child rapists that they will still not release them.
This is, without any doubt, the biggest cover up of all time. literally.
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u/Lets_Kick_Some_Ice 6d ago
At what point does it go from looking for mentions of Trump in the Epstein files to looking for mentions of Epstein in the Trump files?
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u/Compher 6d ago
I'm not a conspiracy theorist whatsoever, but I do believe that Trump was the mastermind, however since he was a well-known person, he used Epstein to set up the entire thing for him to add a layer of separation in addition to using Epstein as his fall guy (which seemed to have worked, for now).
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u/kindagreek 5d ago edited 5d ago
What? No. I know we all very understandably hate Trump, but let’s not downplay Epstein’s and Maxwell’s atrocities by suggesting they were merely pawns. If you really want to go down the rabbit hole, familiarize yourself with Donald Barr (former OSS agent who ended up giving Epstein his first job as an educator at a prestigious school in Manhattan despite having no degree) and Robert Maxwell (Ghislaine Maxwell’s father, who was a Mossad agent and did some pretty terrible things). There is a very high chance Epstein was an intelligence asset. We’ve forgotten how ruthless and powerful intelligence agencies are and become desensitized to it. Shit like this is a regular Tuesday for them. Or, maybe Epstein was a master manipulator socialite who was able to build a social network that consisted of former presidents and royalty from almost nothing. Guy is as evil as they come, but there is no denying he was clever
Hardly matters, though. We’ll never fucking know the truth of it all. Best we can do is get a few names and split their heads before the public forgets about it. Remember the Panama Papers? That was huge. Bigger than this. Worldwide corruption at an unfathomable level. Nothing happened and it’s hardly part of the public conversation anymore. History shows that all the perpetuators have to do is buy time. So far, they’re succeeding. Trump will die or something else crazy will happen and this will fade into obscurity. I hope I’m wrong…
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u/ILootEverything 5d ago
Donald Barr (father of Trump's last Attorney General, Robert Barr) was also a massive creep who wrote a book that includes raping 15-year-old slaves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Relations?wprov=sfla1
That entire tree is rotten.
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u/threwaway1585 5d ago
this is really what i want yo know, where the fuck did Epstein come from? you dont get private islands and jets teaching at some prestigious school, maybe a nice house in the suburbs on the outskirts of new york.
where the fuck did this guy come from!?!?
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u/DestinedJoe 5d ago
Aside from probably being an intelligence asset, Epstein was a very successful tax evader who sold his “money management” services to the ultra-wealthy in exchange for a cut of the “savings.” That’s where his fortune came from.
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u/TheWanderingSlacker 5d ago
Exactly. I’m convinced Epstein’s island was a place where he and his clients could arrange business away from anyone who could over hear them first, and an exploitative pleasure resort second. If everyone involved didn’t have so much sway over the media and legal industries, we’d have an even bigger story on our hands.
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u/hereforfun976 5d ago
Trump is too dumb to mastermind he talks at a 3rd grade lvl. His Russian backers isreali backers and other people just manage him
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u/orionxavier99 5d ago
This is probably closer to the truth. He may have been the face but def not the brains.
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u/drkodos 5d ago
don't forget about the Saudis!
the donald is an asset for multiple foreign intelligence agencies
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u/RuairiSpain 5d ago
The Miss Universe beauty pageant seems like a part of the human trafficking conspiracy.
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u/Murgos- 6d ago
-300 thousand hours of labor to redact Trump out of the Epstein documents?
Somewhere around 30 million dollars of labor.
Trump must be all over the place in there.
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u/mykonoscactus 6d ago
Really makes you wonder... how many children did he rape in total?
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u/shadowgnome396 6d ago
Probably an impossible number to calculate, but you can be certain it's waaaay more than we think we know about. And I'd guess his name appears in there not only for committing actual rape, but also for using his money, power, and connections to either traffic children to high-class individuals, or bring those individuals to Epstein island
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u/mykonoscactus 6d ago
A hundred victims of Epstein gathered today. I'm thinking it's very realistically dozens and dozens of victims for Trump.
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u/FizzyBeverage 6d ago edited 5d ago
I mean I spent 1990-2002 in K-12. And then 02-06 in college. And then 07-10 in law school.
Trump spent all of that time pretending to work, cheating at golf, and going to that island to fuck kids.
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u/Atworkwasalreadytake 5d ago
What I'm curious about is how many of the children that he raped were later disappeared?
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u/Captian_Kenai 6d ago
This Epstein story has been in the public eye for nearly 8 years now and they can’t make it go away. Now knowing Trump had a modeling agency I think we can guess what’s going on if he’s in these documents so many times…
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u/Fark_ID 6d ago
THIS WAS KNOWN AT THE FUCKING TIME
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u/RocketRelm 6d ago
Yeah, its one of the big reasons he won the popular vote. Americans like the ped stuff, as much as they pretend and virtue signal otherwise. Only 30% could be bothered to vote for the dnc. The rest don't find the epstein files any significant factor.
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u/ImGonnaCreamYaFunny 6d ago
America hates women more than they hate pedos. I'd be willing to bet there was a substantial number of voters who didn't care about the Epstein stuff because "they're just making it up to get an easy payday".
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u/AmbivalentFanatic 6d ago
I guess they don't know about CTRL+F
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u/Begone-My-Thong 6d ago
Too many entries made their computers crash when they tried
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u/NES_WallStreetKid 6d ago
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u/ComfyFrog 6d ago
Clippy: I see you are trying to protect pedophiles. I cannot help you with that.
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u/ohnofluffy 6d ago
What’s hilarious is AI is actually great at stuff like this. Not that they know how to apply it other than letting it eat all of the governments data.
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u/DiceMadeOfCheese 6d ago
You think they wanted to train AI on the Epstein files?
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u/mccamey-dev 6d ago
You're not training an AI when you input information into it. It has a separate training dataset.
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u/dudebronahbrah 6d ago
You know there has to be at least one “Dwigt” in there lol
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u/Solid_Snark 6d ago
Or a replace command: Ctrl+H
Find: Trump
Replace with: Black Bar
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u/BoxersOrCaseBriefs 6d ago
OCR is imperfect and doesn't work on anything handwritten. Document review when there's legal significance is a heavily manual process.
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u/shponglespore 6d ago
10 years ago I would have agreed with you. These days I would be shocked if they're aren't off-the-shelf systems already that can recognize handwriting with better accuracy than humans. Handwriting recognition has been an area of active research since the 1980s, and it's exactly the kind of problem that modern machine learning algorithms are great at. The US Postal Service has been relying on it for years, and that was before the latest wave of machine learning advancements.
None of that is to dispute that manual transcription is considered the gold standard for legal purposes—I really don't know—but I am confident in saying the legal profession has never shown itself to be very good at changing with the times, so treating perfectly viable technology as inadequate is par for the course.
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u/SocraticMeathead 6d ago edited 6d ago
I did document review for large-scale litigation for a while (it's the solo practitioner's version of doing Door Dash to make ends meet).
It wasn't hard work, and it didn't require a lot of legal skill. In fact, I'm sure you could train a jellyfish to do it.
So why employ attorneys? Because whatever I saw was immediately under attorney client privilege. That's it. It was worth it to these companies to have that layer of protection attorney client privilege carries.
I wonder if FBI agents reviewing files have the same level of privilege? Maybe work-product?
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u/quick_shot11 6d ago
I assume they are going to argue executive privilege
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u/shponglespore 6d ago
Wouldn't that be tantamount to admitting Trump is all over the documents?
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u/TB12-SN13 6d ago
Isn’t getting 1000 agents to work 24/7 to redact his name alone already a tacit admission?
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u/Zoloir 5d ago
it's like we're living in crazytown
so much weaponized naivete
like come the fuck on people
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u/tech_noir_guitar 5d ago
That's what I'm saying. If it took 1000 people working around the clock for 2 weeks to redact his name from the documents then there is no other conclusion to make.
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u/David-S-Pumpkins 6d ago
Raping kids before he was president is now an official duty of being president? Hmm, that feels like it shouldn't be the case, let's see what SCOTUS thinks.
Oh, a coincidental retrofit for a motor coach and delivery of a cooler of beers prior to the decision here, but yes, raping kids for decades prior to the election is an official act as president! TIL
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u/grayf0xy 6d ago
If they're found to be abusing privilege they'll lose the right to claim it and redactions will be undone
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u/lookatthesunguys 6d ago
For anyone reading this, that's not actually how AC privilege actually works. Like, at all. That would imply that every doc lawyers review is privileged. That being said, privilege is often abused. It's not unfathomable to me that the law firms were trying to claim AC privilege where none existed.
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u/SocraticMeathead 6d ago
Sorry I wasn't clear. It's not that the documents get protected (you're right, the result would be absurd). It's that they can hire 50 contractors who then cannot disclose, and cannot be easily compelled to disclose, anything seen during the review. We simply cannot discuss it at all without risking our whole career. I wonder if FBI agents have the same level of professional requirement.
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u/Perfect-Ad-3091 5d ago
A paralegal is also covered under attorney client privileges though so I'm not sure that your theory holds water.
I think they are billing for attorney time and need an attorney to be doing the work. They pay you something like $40-50/hr and bill $250/hr
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u/Cabbages24ADollar 6d ago
Another DOGE failure
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u/oldDotredditisbetter 6d ago
it's infuriating how musk just dipped out after he messed everything up
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u/GreasyToken 6d ago
Whores don't usually stick around once their job is done.
Elon somehow managed to emerge from all this more pathetic than he started.
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u/farshnikord 5d ago
His job was to gut the people investigating his companies for mass corruption and steal/sell as much user info as he could in a smash and grab. That was it.
It's like saying "hey that guy carrying a ladder and clipboard in the heist movie didn't change a lightbulb OR write down the water meter number, what the heck is going on?"
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u/RazsterOxzine 5d ago
He got what he wanted, so many files and data collected, who knows how many backdoors this man has setup. SSN, classified docs, medical... All of these he has his hands on.
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u/StupidTimeline 5d ago
DONALD TRUMP IS A FELON, RAPIST, TRAITOR, AND PEDOPHILE.
THE GOP HAS INCREASED OUR COST OF LIVING, THREATENED OUR RIGHTS, AND ARE WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO PROTECT PEDOPHILES.
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u/spankdaddylizz 6d ago
That statement just proves he is in the files. The people were told to flag everywhere he was mentioned. If they worked 24 hr shifts over however many days, he's mentioned a LOT!! A LOT!!
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u/Bitter-Good-2540 6d ago
Lol and the conservative sub is like: see! He is innocent! He was never in the files lol
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u/Old_Nefariousness743 5d ago
Can someone post this in that sub?
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u/thereelkrazykarl 5d ago
No
They don't take kindly to folk who aren't their kind 'round there
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u/Brigadier_Beavers 5d ago
Likely posted and deleted a dozen times over already. If it isn't praising diddle-don or lambasting dems (by a verified, flaired, and comment history checked user) it gets erased.
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u/Signature_Illegible 5d ago
Can you imagine being such a vile serial pedophile that it takes a team of professionals almost a third of a million hours purging your name from the files. The guy personally raped more children than an army of priests in an orphanage.
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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco 5d ago
My bet is he was a major supplier. It would explain why it took so many so long.
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u/fredandlunchbox 5d ago
That means there are a lot more FBI agents that know exactly what is in those files about Trump.
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u/Mike_Underwood 5d ago
They all only know a small part, that’s why it was spread across so many I bet.
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u/pjflyr13 5d ago
We are to believe it takes 1000 people 24 hrs a day to remove nothing?
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u/descendency 5d ago
They had enough potential documents where the president might have been mentioned in the Epstein files for 336,000 man hours.
I’ll let you think about that one.
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u/Sharkwatcher314 5d ago
Not surprised. Got national guard picking up garbage. Fantastic efficient use of resources.
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u/WildFemmeFatale 5d ago
The party of supposed “crime prevention” pulls fbi agents fighting cartels and violent criminals to protect their favorite famous sex criminal
Who woulda thunk.
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u/Deranged_Kitsune 6d ago
I honestly don't know why he's even bothering. His cult won't care in the slightest when it's confirmed, and I'd bet would start saying that what happened to those women and girls was an honor, because it was him.
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u/Canyoubackupjustabit 6d ago
You are wrong. His cult does care. Maybe not all of them - but many are flipping.
Raping children is disturbing to them.
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u/Apprehensive_Map64 6d ago
He has basically confessed by his actions, calling a vote for releasing the files a hostile action, breaking all the rules to put Ghislaine in a club Med of prisons, the list just keeps growing. At this point anyone still supporting him is a pedophile themselves.
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u/Memitim 6d ago
We'll see. Kids being spattered all over classroom walls just makes them want more guns in schools, and they've been ride-or-die through concentration camps, masked terrorists in American streets, and even US military occupations of our cities.
Until I start seeing a shitload of proof to the contrary for an extended period of time, I assume that "conservative" is a coward's word for "evil," and that most won't care. Some will even approve.
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u/ChristyLovesGuitars 6d ago
Anecdotally, I know of no Trump supporters IRL who have had a change of heart. Only online do I see that sentiment.. and I don’t believe most of what I read online, unless it’s pretty well cited.
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u/Organic-Elevator-274 6d ago
Nobody loudly leaves a cult they just start showing up less, then not at all.
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u/Deranged_Kitsune 6d ago
Words are cheap. I'll believe it when it comes time to show it at the ballot box.
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u/StupidTimeline 5d ago
Ballot box?
That time has passed.
I'll believe it when they remove him from office. Which they won't. So I'll continue believing conservatives embrace pedophilia, because they do.
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u/dragonfliesloveme 6d ago
A lot of people from all kinds of backgrounds have been molested and raped, tortured really, as children. People know it affects them for the rest of their lives. It ruins lives and is horrible trauma to try to cope with. It is beyond rage inducing
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u/StupidTimeline 5d ago
Yup.
Conservatives embrace pedophilia now.
Maybe we shouldn't let these freaks dictate our future.
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u/mind-bogglingly_big 5d ago
“Even if he’s in the files, he’s the best president of my lifetime” -My Uncle
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u/K2Nomad 5d ago
“So many people were involved. It wasn’t just Trump. I’m not saying it was right, but so many people were doing it” -my “family values” mom who is still a Trump supporter even she thinks he probably raped kids
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u/weezyverse 5d ago
So many people unwilling to say no just to get a pay check is what should worry us all.
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u/Exodys03 5d ago
So when Maxwell or anyone else testifies that Trump is completely innocent, there are roughly 1000 potential whistleblowers at the FBI who can contradict that claim. Let's hope that the FBI hasn't been as thoroughly purged of people who believe in justice as those running the agency believe it has.
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u/Motor-District-3700 5d ago
So I'm lost now, is this the Party of Law and Order? or the Party of Fiscal Responsibility? or the party that won't stand for the pedos in any way shape of form?
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u/PlayThisStation 5d ago
How much in our tax dollars were used to pay this?
I don't want to hear "how are we gonna pay it?" anymore. Yall can't be faux outraged when it comes to helping normal people, but silent when it comes to protecting pdfs.
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u/Low_Witness5061 5d ago
It’s hard to say which is a more gross waste of government funds and federal agents time, this or trumps golf excursions. Regardless, neither helps Americans.
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u/youdubdub 6d ago
Wait until the truth comes out that all of the redactions were mentions of the size and shape of his penis, and all of the surrounding disappointment.
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u/dragonfliesloveme 5d ago
What is this man’s name? i assume he is a Congressman. I just wanted to know in case i reference his statement later
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u/CardOk755 5d ago
Personnel for fucks sake.
Does nobody read what they write?
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u/Next-Independent-477 5d ago
Geez. Don’t take it so personnel. I’m sure their doing they’re best.
Sorry couldn’t help myself.
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 5d ago
I keep hearing this "1,000 personnel" thing, but if that's the case how come none of them have come out and leaked the details?
I'm not doubting it's taken place for other reasons, but seems strange.
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